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Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii
naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ^ | 06/09/2011 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 06/09/2011 1:51:48 PM PDT by rxsid

"Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii.

I don’t know how this slipped below my radar, but back on May 9, 2011, World Net Daily published an investigative report entitled, “Bombshell: U.S. government questioned Obama citizenship“, which – in my opinion – conclusively established that Obama was born in Hawaii. In that report, Aaron Klein revealed official documents stored in US immigration files which chronicle the troubles faced by Obama’s mother’s second husband, Lolo Soetoro, when he petitioned the US Government for a visa extension.

The WND report correctly notes that US officials expressed an interest in determining whether Soetoro’s step-son, President Obama, was actually a US citizen. The US officials who were handling Soetoro’s Visa extension application made copious notes in the file and the official comments therein illustrate that these officials doubted some of Soetoro’s statements. So, they decided to investigate the relationships listed in his application.

Below is the text of the relevant portion of the WND report:

One critical exchange is dated August 21, 1967, from Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif.

Benson’s query stated, “There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouse’s son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status and determine whether or not he is the applicant’s child within the meaning of Section 101(b)(1)(B) of the Act, who may suffer exceptional hardship within the meaning of Section 212(a).”

The reference is to the Immigration and Naturalization Act, which defined a “child” as an unmarried person under 21 years of age who, among other qualifiers, could be a “stepchild,” whether or not born out of wedlock, provided the child had not reached the “age of eighteen years at the time the marriage creating the status of stepchild occurred.”

A response to Benson’s inquiry came from one “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office, who determined Obama was a U.S. citizen.

Mix replied: “Pursuant to inquiry from central office regarding the status of the applicants’ spouse’s child by a former marriage.”

“The person in question is a United States citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants’ spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is considered the applicant’s step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the child’s mother on March 5, 1965.”

The files do not state how the office determined Obama was born in Honolulu.

So here we see the US Government looking into an application for Visa extension by Soetoro. Further review of those documents reveal that the officials did not trust everything in Soetoro’s application. Therefore, the Government officials wanted to establish whether Obama Jr. was truly a US citizen. They made a direct inquiry on this very issue. And they concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Again, this was established by “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office.

Having taken such an exhaustive look into Soetoro’s application, and especially considering the government’s examination of Obama’s citizenship, I don’t see how the government officials involved would have overlooked the fact that Stanley Ann Dunham would have been out of the US and far away in Kenya on the date W.L. Mix established as DOB for Obama – if Obama had been born in Kenya.

Furthermore, a report today by WND, “Documents show marriage of Obama’s parents a sham“, illustrates that a similar investigation as to Obama, Sr. was conducted when he was also applying for a Visa extension. Those official documents include a handwritten memo from the file, written by (presumed) INS official William Wood, which states that Obama Sr.’s son, “Barack Obama II”, was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961.

Moreover, in today’s WND article, Jerome Corsi concludes, as a result of reviewing all of the relevant INS documents, that if President Obama was born in Kenya, Dunham must have traveled there without Obama Sr., who was definitely in the US on August 4, 1961, according to these US Government records. This analysis by Corsi is correct. Obama Sr.’s presence in the US at the time of Obama’s birth is now sufficiently documented. This fact alone adds very heavy weight to President Obama having been born in the US.

I don’t see how two sets of US government officials, independently investigating the relationships between Soetoro and Dunham on one hand, and Obama Sr. and Dunham on the other, could both fail to reveal that Dunham would have been in Kenya at the time of Obama Jr.’s birth. The government officials would’ve had access to Dunham’s passport files. The contents thereof were relevant to the investigations since she was married to both men, and the marriages were relevant to immigration status, as was the issue of children.

Those who persist in accusing Obama of not being born in Hawaii do so in light of official government investigations, between 1961 and 1966, which established his birth, to the satisfaction of inquisitive government immigration officials, as having taken place on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA.

As far as I’m concerned, the issue is settled with a massive presumption of authenticity. I do not see how the information published by WND regarding US immigration official W.L. Mix’s investigation into Obama’s US citizenship flew so far below the radar. That is the single most important fact I have come across that establishes Obama’s birth in Hawaii.

CLOSURE IS POSSIBLE WITH REGARD TO BC ISSUE.

For those who insist on keeping the birther circus alive and kickin’ (despite the info listed above), I believe there is a simple way to settle the issue once and for all. I have found two references to the fact that the US Government keeps passport “issuance” records for all passports issued. The most recent is from Congressional testimony on the House floor from March 10, 1998:

“In addition, the committee on conference is aware that on weekends there is no Departmental procedure or mechanism to access the passport issuance records maintained by the Consular Affairs Bureau. The result is that when a foreign law enforcement authority inquires about the status of a person or passport on the weekend, the State Department does not or cannot respond. This is a clear deficiency in border security procedures.” (See pg. 41/53 in the PDF counter.)

The second reference is to a US Government GAO report – written for the Secretary of State – that argued for the destruction of passport application materials. The destruction of such materials was the basis of more conspiracy theories as to Dunham’s various passport applications and renewals requested in a previous FOIA by Christopher Strunk.

Unfortunately, the FOIA request by Strunk, which has been well documented online, failed to request passport “issuance” records for Stanley Ann Dunham. Strunk only requested passport “application” materials. And the government’s reply to his FOIA request was specifically limited to passport “application” materials. Since Strunk didn’t specifically ask for passport “issuance” records, the government was not obligated to search for those records… but they do exist and they can be found.

The GAO report – which refers to passport issue cards – documents the destruction of passport application materials, but it notes that the Government retains all “old passport issue cards”:

“During numerous discussions with GSA about document retention periods, Department officials have presented many reasons for the continued storage of original passport applications. They have placed great emphasis in pointing out that old passport applications can be used to derive the citizenship of others…But other ways are just as reliable and effective… Should the Department need to verify if a parent was ever issued a passport, old passport issue cards have been microfilmed and can be referenced by the Department.“ (See pg. 44/70 in the PDF counter.)

Therefore, if Stanley Ann Dunham had been issued a passport prior to President Obama’s birth, there will be a passport issue card available with that information. If no such card exists, Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961, and Obama could not have been born in Kenya. She would have needed a passport to be in Kenya.

It is my opinion that a proper FOIA request for passport issue cards (or copies thereof) will establish that Stanley Ann Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961. Such a request must be SPECIFICALLY designed to eliminate all wiggle room. I suggest the following wording:

Please forward all passport issue cards and/or microfilm or microfiche copies, or any other copies thereof – or any other documents – which reference the issuance of any passport for Stanley Ann Dunham. To be perfectly clear in my FOIA request, please understand that I am NOT interested in passport application materials. Please limit your response and documents to passport issue cards or copies thereof – as well as any other documents – which the government possesses for Stanley Ann Dunham that refer to her being issued a US passport.

Any FOIA request should NOT ask for more than the passport issuance materials. I cannot stress enough how important it is that the FOIA be strictly limited as suggested above. Such a FOIA should end this conspiracy theory with authority and finality.

I should note that I have come across a certain rabid Obama eligibility supporter who alleges to have done a proper FOIA request as to passport issuance materials. I do not trust this source and I do not have access to the EXACT wording of the alleged FOIA request. Suffice to say that anyone who wants true closure on the place of birth issue should do a FOIA – strictly worded as I have suggested above – requesting passport issuance documents for Stanley Ann Dunham.

I nominate the folks at WND to take this on and make all aspects public since they are the main news resource for this issue. They are invited to take the suggested FOIA request as written above (in red) and to run with it.

The fourth estate has the power and responsibility to see this through. They should thoroughly document the exact wording of the FOIA request, and they should also document the stages of compliance by the government to such a request as is required by law. Definitive documentation regarding whether Stanley Ann Dunham held a passport prior to August 4, 1961 is readily available to the public.

The Government is required to respond to the EXACT request made. No mention of passport application materials should be forwarded by the government in response to a properly worded FOIA request for passport issuance cards (or other issuance documents). We know the cards/documents exist and that they are necessary to the government as is proved by the GAO report and Congressional testimony.

The GAO notes in their report from 1981 that while passport application materials may be destroyed, “passport issue cards” are kept. This is beyond dispute.

If no passport issuance documents can be found for Obama’s mother prior to his date of birth, then he could not have been born in Kenya.

I am not a person who needs to see anymore proof. I believe now and have always believed President Obama was born in Hawaii. But if you still have doubts, this line of inquiry is crucially necessary.

The BC issue and the birther circus surrounding it have served Obama well. Like Chester Arthur before him, the nation was thoroughly distracted by the place of birth faux conspiracy whilst the true legal question concerning his dual national status – despite place of birth – was obscured.

Everyone loves a big green juicy salacious conspiracy theory. That’s much more fun than a certified boring legal question, the answer to which was never in the hands of Obama, whereas the BC always was. He who controls the game, controls the outcome. (“Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?” – Johnny Rotten)

I am writing this to clear your attention spans for what will be the most authoritative and well documented analysis I have to offer on the dual national issue concerning Obama’s perpetual POTUS eligibility dilemma. I do not want the circus to obstruct the law. If you understand the importance of this post, you will pass it on far and wide so the attention of the nation can focus on the true Constitutional crisis.

Leo Donofrio, Esq."

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/recent-wnd-inquiries-appear-to-have-established-obamas-birth-in-hawaii/


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
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To: little jeremiah

They BOTH have widows points in the hairline across their foreheads - or are you and Fred conveniently ignoring that very visual fact!


481 posted on 06/13/2011 10:06:20 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Yes, that’s the one. Date uploaded was Feb. 20, 2009.


482 posted on 06/13/2011 10:06:57 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Fred Nerks

This is your story, Fred; not mine. You tell us. I’m certain everyone wants to hear it by now.


483 posted on 06/13/2011 10:07:43 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: bgill

One thing people can ask themselves, if they think think that Stanley Ann is Zero’s mother and that the Kenyan 0bama is his father.

That question would be:

What is Zero hiding? He’s obviously hiding something because of the anomalies, lies, obfuscations, hidden/sealed and missing documents, forgeries, mythlogy and so on.

So what exactly is he hiding?

People need to ask themselves seriously.

He’s not doing it just for fun.


484 posted on 06/13/2011 10:12:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: SatinDoll

In the photos in comment 478, the bottom row of photos, the child has no widows peak.


485 posted on 06/13/2011 10:15:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
Is this the same child? Because if it is, then 'David' doesn't exist.


486 posted on 06/13/2011 10:28:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: little jeremiah

Oh, yes; the second from the left does have a widows peak. I noticed it right away in photos with another, darker boy who has a most definite widows peak.


487 posted on 06/13/2011 10:39:46 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/MissieBessie/little%20zero/2-1.png

look again - and click to enlarge


488 posted on 06/13/2011 10:56:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: SatinDoll

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=1

it might interest you to scroll through this thread.


489 posted on 06/13/2011 11:15:42 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: little jeremiah; Beckwith; Brown Deer
I am wondering...did anyone notice, that the index of births received by Post & E-mail, in response to their request -

My initial UIPA request of January 22, 2010, sought the index data for all children on the Hawaii Birth Index whose parents’ surnames were either Obama, Payne, Soetoro or Dunham...

And this was the result for 'O' - Where's OBAMA?

POST & E-MAIL LINK.

490 posted on 06/13/2011 11:43:41 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Ladysforest; All
Suppose I should post the undated index from Ladysforest blog, to compare the names:
491 posted on 06/14/2011 12:26:30 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Well, how interesting. It looks as though BHO Jr is a chip off the old block: the old man’s origins aren’t clear, he has difficulty in remembering where he’s been and what he’s done, has unreasonable expectations (a Ph.D. in 2 or 3 years), a tendency to BS, and a tendency to blame others for failure or an alacrity for self-promotion and opportunism.


492 posted on 06/14/2011 3:18:56 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: rxsid
Having taken such an exhaustive look into Soetoro’s application, and especially considering the government’s examination of Obama’s citizenship, I don’t see how the government officials involved would have overlooked the fact that Stanley Ann Dunham would have been out of the US and far away in Kenya on the date W.L. Mix established as DOB for Obama – if Obama had been born in Kenya.

They were going on the same bits and pieces that everyone else has been offered. That's how. What this shows is that, even close to the alleged time of birth, things were exceedingly murky. Different people were saying different things on a variety of subjects and officials were trying to feel their way to something they could use to justify whatever decision they took. The fact that they took an official position doesn't at all mean that everything they used to reach the decision was undoubtedly a fact.
493 posted on 06/14/2011 3:26:24 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Red Steel

You’re right, I realized that a split second too late...sorry!


494 posted on 06/14/2011 3:42:30 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; SatinDoll

I don’t see a widows peak in the two photos in comment 470. Do you see one?


495 posted on 06/14/2011 7:19:29 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks

David is a convenient fiction to account for the two boys photo and to make Zero “one of the family - Why, he looks just like the dearly departed David”!


496 posted on 06/14/2011 7:28:56 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks
pssst....might have been from that 'motorcycle accident' from when he went to Kenya in 1983...perhaps not all of the clan were prepared to go along with the 'return of the prodigal son' scenario?

Those are both from Obama? Is one of them a reversed image from one side of his head? I thought the scar was on the right side of his head.

497 posted on 06/14/2011 7:29:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks
"Look what have we here. The possibility that neither the parents nor the place or date of birth of zero are known beyond doubt."

You need to eliminate the words "beyond doubt".

I don't really know of much in the way of reliable evidence on any of those points.

There is I suppose some evidence that would be admitted in litigation under the current rules of evidence. Over the years, Obama has made numerous statements that he was born in Mombasa. Those are admissions against interest and ought to be admissible in court.

498 posted on 06/14/2011 7:49:54 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: Fred Nerks
It was recently learned that Obama SR. sent another woman he made pregnant to England for an abortion.

That is an UNFOUNDED RUMOUR!

Not so fast. I specifically recall reading about this in some of the documents from Barack Sr.'s immigration papers. If I recall correctly, it says something like "(Woman X) went to England for (Redacted)..." or some such. It doesn't specifically say "abortion" but in the context of the discussion, it is hard to see how it could mean anything else.

499 posted on 06/14/2011 8:00:26 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Those arguing that diluted loyalty is acceptable need to be disabused of that notion.)
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To: Fred Nerks; bgill
...Correct me if I'm wrong but at the bottom it shows his age as 51 meaning he was born in 1959. Interesting, another mind-game? As POTUS he wouldn't have needed a birth certificate to obtain that passport, would he?

Hawaii, Aug. 21, 1959, 50th State....hmmm so if ONE were born on Aug 4th 1959....

500 posted on 06/14/2011 8:36:33 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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