Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii

naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ^ | 06/09/2011 | Leo Donofrio

[rxsid]

"Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii.

I don’t know how this slipped below my radar, but back on May 9, 2011, World Net Daily published an investigative report entitled, “Bombshell: U.S. government questioned Obama citizenship“, which – in my opinion – conclusively established that Obama was born in Hawaii. In that report, Aaron Klein revealed official documents stored in US immigration files which chronicle the troubles faced by Obama’s mother’s second husband, Lolo Soetoro, when he petitioned the US Government for a visa extension.

The WND report correctly notes that US officials expressed an interest in determining whether Soetoro’s step-son, President Obama, was actually a US citizen. The US officials who were handling Soetoro’s Visa extension application made copious notes in the file and the official comments therein illustrate that these officials doubted some of Soetoro’s statements. So, they decided to investigate the relationships listed in his application.

Below is the text of the relevant portion of the WND report:

One critical exchange is dated August 21, 1967, from Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif.

Benson’s query stated, “There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouse’s son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status and determine whether or not he is the applicant’s child within the meaning of Section 101(b)(1)(B) of the Act, who may suffer exceptional hardship within the meaning of Section 212(a).”

The reference is to the Immigration and Naturalization Act, which defined a “child” as an unmarried person under 21 years of age who, among other qualifiers, could be a “stepchild,” whether or not born out of wedlock, provided the child had not reached the “age of eighteen years at the time the marriage creating the status of stepchild occurred.”

A response to Benson’s inquiry came from one “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office, who determined Obama was a U.S. citizen.

Mix replied: “Pursuant to inquiry from central office regarding the status of the applicants’ spouse’s child by a former marriage.”

“The person in question is a United States citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants’ spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is considered the applicant’s step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the child’s mother on March 5, 1965.”

The files do not state how the office determined Obama was born in Honolulu.

So here we see the US Government looking into an application for Visa extension by Soetoro. Further review of those documents reveal that the officials did not trust everything in Soetoro’s application. Therefore, the Government officials wanted to establish whether Obama Jr. was truly a US citizen. They made a direct inquiry on this very issue. And they concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Again, this was established by “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office.

Having taken such an exhaustive look into Soetoro’s application, and especially considering the government’s examination of Obama’s citizenship, I don’t see how the government officials involved would have overlooked the fact that Stanley Ann Dunham would have been out of the US and far away in Kenya on the date W.L. Mix established as DOB for Obama – if Obama had been born in Kenya.

Furthermore, a report today by WND, “Documents show marriage of Obama’s parents a sham“, illustrates that a similar investigation as to Obama, Sr. was conducted when he was also applying for a Visa extension. Those official documents include a handwritten memo from the file, written by (presumed) INS official William Wood, which states that Obama Sr.’s son, “Barack Obama II”, was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961.

Moreover, in today’s WND article, Jerome Corsi concludes, as a result of reviewing all of the relevant INS documents, that if President Obama was born in Kenya, Dunham must have traveled there without Obama Sr., who was definitely in the US on August 4, 1961, according to these US Government records. This analysis by Corsi is correct. Obama Sr.’s presence in the US at the time of Obama’s birth is now sufficiently documented. This fact alone adds very heavy weight to President Obama having been born in the US.

I don’t see how two sets of US government officials, independently investigating the relationships between Soetoro and Dunham on one hand, and Obama Sr. and Dunham on the other, could both fail to reveal that Dunham would have been in Kenya at the time of Obama Jr.’s birth. The government officials would’ve had access to Dunham’s passport files. The contents thereof were relevant to the investigations since she was married to both men, and the marriages were relevant to immigration status, as was the issue of children.

Those who persist in accusing Obama of not being born in Hawaii do so in light of official government investigations, between 1961 and 1966, which established his birth, to the satisfaction of inquisitive government immigration officials, as having taken place on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA.

As far as I’m concerned, the issue is settled with a massive presumption of authenticity. I do not see how the information published by WND regarding US immigration official W.L. Mix’s investigation into Obama’s US citizenship flew so far below the radar. That is the single most important fact I have come across that establishes Obama’s birth in Hawaii.

CLOSURE IS POSSIBLE WITH REGARD TO BC ISSUE.

For those who insist on keeping the birther circus alive and kickin’ (despite the info listed above), I believe there is a simple way to settle the issue once and for all. I have found two references to the fact that the US Government keeps passport “issuance” records for all passports issued. The most recent is from Congressional testimony on the House floor from March 10, 1998:

“In addition, the committee on conference is aware that on weekends there is no Departmental procedure or mechanism to access the passport issuance records maintained by the Consular Affairs Bureau. The result is that when a foreign law enforcement authority inquires about the status of a person or passport on the weekend, the State Department does not or cannot respond. This is a clear deficiency in border security procedures.” (See pg. 41/53 in the PDF counter.)

The second reference is to a US Government GAO report – written for the Secretary of State – that argued for the destruction of passport application materials. The destruction of such materials was the basis of more conspiracy theories as to Dunham’s various passport applications and renewals requested in a previous FOIA by Christopher Strunk.

Unfortunately, the FOIA request by Strunk, which has been well documented online, failed to request passport “issuance” records for Stanley Ann Dunham. Strunk only requested passport “application” materials. And the government’s reply to his FOIA request was specifically limited to passport “application” materials. Since Strunk didn’t specifically ask for passport “issuance” records, the government was not obligated to search for those records… but they do exist and they can be found.

The GAO report – which refers to passport issue cards – documents the destruction of passport application materials, but it notes that the Government retains all “old passport issue cards”:

“During numerous discussions with GSA about document retention periods, Department officials have presented many reasons for the continued storage of original passport applications. They have placed great emphasis in pointing out that old passport applications can be used to derive the citizenship of others…But other ways are just as reliable and effective… Should the Department need to verify if a parent was ever issued a passport, old passport issue cards have been microfilmed and can be referenced by the Department.“ (See pg. 44/70 in the PDF counter.)

Therefore, if Stanley Ann Dunham had been issued a passport prior to President Obama’s birth, there will be a passport issue card available with that information. If no such card exists, Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961, and Obama could not have been born in Kenya. She would have needed a passport to be in Kenya.

It is my opinion that a proper FOIA request for passport issue cards (or copies thereof) will establish that Stanley Ann Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961. Such a request must be SPECIFICALLY designed to eliminate all wiggle room. I suggest the following wording:

Please forward all passport issue cards and/or microfilm or microfiche copies, or any other copies thereof – or any other documents – which reference the issuance of any passport for Stanley Ann Dunham. To be perfectly clear in my FOIA request, please understand that I am NOT interested in passport application materials. Please limit your response and documents to passport issue cards or copies thereof – as well as any other documents – which the government possesses for Stanley Ann Dunham that refer to her being issued a US passport.

Any FOIA request should NOT ask for more than the passport issuance materials. I cannot stress enough how important it is that the FOIA be strictly limited as suggested above. Such a FOIA should end this conspiracy theory with authority and finality.

I should note that I have come across a certain rabid Obama eligibility supporter who alleges to have done a proper FOIA request as to passport issuance materials. I do not trust this source and I do not have access to the EXACT wording of the alleged FOIA request. Suffice to say that anyone who wants true closure on the place of birth issue should do a FOIA – strictly worded as I have suggested above – requesting passport issuance documents for Stanley Ann Dunham.

I nominate the folks at WND to take this on and make all aspects public since they are the main news resource for this issue. They are invited to take the suggested FOIA request as written above (in red) and to run with it.

The fourth estate has the power and responsibility to see this through. They should thoroughly document the exact wording of the FOIA request, and they should also document the stages of compliance by the government to such a request as is required by law. Definitive documentation regarding whether Stanley Ann Dunham held a passport prior to August 4, 1961 is readily available to the public.

The Government is required to respond to the EXACT request made. No mention of passport application materials should be forwarded by the government in response to a properly worded FOIA request for passport issuance cards (or other issuance documents). We know the cards/documents exist and that they are necessary to the government as is proved by the GAO report and Congressional testimony.

The GAO notes in their report from 1981 that while passport application materials may be destroyed, “passport issue cards” are kept. This is beyond dispute.

If no passport issuance documents can be found for Obama’s mother prior to his date of birth, then he could not have been born in Kenya.

I am not a person who needs to see anymore proof. I believe now and have always believed President Obama was born in Hawaii. But if you still have doubts, this line of inquiry is crucially necessary.

The BC issue and the birther circus surrounding it have served Obama well. Like Chester Arthur before him, the nation was thoroughly distracted by the place of birth faux conspiracy whilst the true legal question concerning his dual national status – despite place of birth – was obscured.

Everyone loves a big green juicy salacious conspiracy theory. That’s much more fun than a certified boring legal question, the answer to which was never in the hands of Obama, whereas the BC always was. He who controls the game, controls the outcome. (“Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?” – Johnny Rotten)

I am writing this to clear your attention spans for what will be the most authoritative and well documented analysis I have to offer on the dual national issue concerning Obama’s perpetual POTUS eligibility dilemma. I do not want the circus to obstruct the law. If you understand the importance of this post, you will pass it on far and wide so the attention of the nation can focus on the true Constitutional crisis.

Leo Donofrio, Esq."

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/recent-wnd-inquiries-appear-to-have-established-obamas-birth-in-hawaii/

[LibertyRocks]

I’ve been offline for a few months, and am grateful to be able to catch up on this issue so quickly... Thanks for the ping.
[I love the new graph and graphic - well, it’s new to me... LOL Hope you are well. - LR]

[LibertyRocks]

OOPS - forgot to include you on my post, Lucy! Thanks for the ping. :) I'm finally back online (dang lousy economy...). Hope you are well.

[Bellflower]

The two things that were obviously messed with on the ginned up BC put out recently by Obama were the BC's number and dates. I still strongly wonder if the number on the BC is actually the number 666 and that is why they messed with it. They then would need to change the date of his birth so that it wouldn't coincide with the date the number 666 would actually be the number on a BC in Hawaii. Maybe he really is the antiChrist or too much like one to want to be identified with the number 666.

The interesting thing about this theory is that if the number was originally 666 and they just laughed it off and hadn't made a big deal about the BC the issue would have been done and over a long time ago but if it is the number 666 it is they themselves that have highlighted the issue tremendously and made it an extremely big issue.

I hope that someone investigates what really happened to the number 666 in the order of Hawaiian BCs way back when Hawaii first became a state and find out just who did have that number.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

[1234]

...They’re(INS-Dept. of Homeland Security) admitting there is an immigration file for Barack Hussein Obama II.

WTF?!
Why would they? Any guesses? Does someone born here having one parent as a foreigner get a file if there's a 'possibility' that parent will try to immigrate to U.S.? Or was INS involved in any way with visas for student dad?

[nikos1121]

I think this is a done story. I think I’m bout to agree that Obama was born in Hawaii. Maybe he was born at home and not in the hospital... maybe there was no BC because of that.

So it comes down to the American public stripping a United States Senator’s natural born citizenship because his mother was underaged. The marriage was a farce so, in essence she was a single parent.

I think the chance of that happening is slim and none...and quite frankly, I agree with that. He’s one of us unfortunately. If there’s doubt we give him the benefit of the doubt...

We all know that he’s not one of us in how his heart thinks..

Let’s move on Lucy T....I think we can beat this guy on his record....

[wintertime]

For the most part, we have had lawyers who were motivated by the kind of emotional considerations reflected in the comments here and not by thoughtful professional consideration of the merits of the individual cases.
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Obama is merely a symptom. We, as a nation, are on the brink of moral collapse.

If we are to survive and thrive as a representative republic a certain amount of honesty, truthfulness, good will, trust, and respect for the rule of law **must**percolate throughout every cultural institution. Yes, it would be very satisfying to see justice done with Obama, but he and his ineligibility are NOT our most urgent and pressing threats.

Even if there were legal action allowed to move forward on Obama’s likely ineligibility and all the crimes associated with these, the nation is morally and spiritually very sick. That every person of authority in this nation ( literally **every**) is choosing to ignore Obama and his crimes should be a warning to all thoughtful citizens.

[wintertime]

Let’s move on Lucy T....I think we can beat this guy on his record....
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When I see two expressions and lack of attention to one more important issue, I get very suspicious. Those expressions and issue are:

— “Let's move on”

—”We can beat this guy on his record”.

— Failure to mention that he very likely was also an Indonesian citizen. He may have traveled on an Indonesian passport. He may not even be a U.S. citizen at this point because he may not have bothered to repatriate himself.

I immediately suspect a paid troll is at work. Why?

1) This isn't about Obama, personally, or beating him in the next election. If his is a natural born citizen then he has every right to be in the White House.

2) Gee! Where did we hear that expression, “Let's Move0n.com”?? Ah! Yes! With Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski!

3) How convenient of you to merely focus on Hawaii as the **only** issue involved here.

Personally, as the elections approach, I will be personally calling and writing my state election officials and all my representatives from the town level on up. I will do so daily if I must. I will also work with the Tea Party to see that every one of these traitors is thrown out of office. They are despicable.

Fundamentally, this issue will NOT go away. No matter how many forgeries Obama posts, thoughtful conservatives will make being in political office very miserable if our representatives choose to trample the rule of law again.

[Gena Bukin]

Case CLOSED!!!

When you're closing your case with two obviously fake Kenyan birth certificates, it makes it pretty easy to disregard everything else you post on this matter.

[Hillary'sMoralVoid]

This is a very well-written article and brings up some important issues and priorities.

I myself have doubts about the Kenyan birth, yet I am also absolutely flabbergasted that Stanley Ann would travel to the state of Washington so soon after the birth of her son. This indisputable fact lends credence to even the most illogical of theories, because it shows how bizarre the whole story of Obama’s early childhood really is. Further, as has been pointed out here, there are far more witnesses and references to Obama’s birth in Kenya than they are in Hawaii.

Leo's comment that a person by the name of W. L. Mix determined that Obama Jr. was a citizen “...by virtue of his birth in Hawaii....” yet it is not known how this person arrived at this conclusion.

Did he see the birth certificate that Abercrombie said never existed? Did he rely on on secondary sources of documentation, such as the passport applications that were later destroyed? I am a little suspicious of hand written notes in a file. The name itself seems a little odd, did this person exist, and is there a record of other notes he may have written? It seems that there is no fact too obscure or theory too wacky to be totally discounted.

Leo talks about the Kenyan birth theory as keeping the birther movement “alive and kickin’”, but I think the birther movement is not of the same mind as to the place of birth, nor does it ignore the real issue, which is that Obama Jr. is not an NBC.

I support Leo's position on filing a FOIA request on passport cards (vice applications), but I disagree somewhat on his premise that no card meant no Kenyan birth. That would be like saying that police arrived on the scene of a grisly murder, but because no fingerprints were found they concluded that no crime was committed. It is very easy to remove (or add) a critical piece of information from a record, even on microfiche. Certainly, if there was incriminating information in the passport files, it would be a prime candidate for selective editing.

Leo seems to characterize birthers as a zany bunch who chase after any wacky theories while the real answer (NBC) is staring them in the face.

Along those lines, I think that a birth in the state of Washington or in British Columbia is still in play. We simply can't discount any possibilities, as the truth is often strange and elusive, especially when it is being hidden.

I disagree. This whole story may never produce a smoking gun, certainly Leo didn't produce one, but he furthered the discussion and provided a further venue for new information. I only wish he had done it in a way that reinforced the work that Corsi and all the rest of us are doing to uncover the truth, rather than being cynical about it.

[nikos1121]

I don’t disagree with anything you say. EVERYONE EVERYONE on this forum knows me on this subject. I brought it up well into the sobs campaign. The only other person who was also involved was PISSANT. I tried to get Gereraty and others at NRO into it, and at first they were, but it peepered out.

I can assure you that had someone like Trump or someone big at the time had stepped up and asks for some answers the guy would have been toast....But the MSM and esp McLame wimped out.

Palin I’m sure wanted to bring this stuff up. Not so much the birth certificate but the lack of information and gaps in the records.

I’m dumbfounded that people in the FBI or CIA haven’t vetted this man.

You can keep up the heat regarding citizenship...I don’t think it will hurt, but I’m more interested in the written records. No one remembers the guy at Columbia...not eventhe few people that had the same majors....

This doesn’t mean he didn’t attend.... he probably just showed up for exams, gave his course work... and left...

Nothing about him at Harvard...he was probably one of these guys that was more show than anything else. He was the token black guy at the school....

I know too about cocaine. You don’t just walk away from that drug...If we knew that the guy did meth then I can tell you for sure that he’s still using...

BTW...wouldn’t it be refreshing if our Commander and Chief submitted to random or other drug testing....? Wouldn’t that be a roll model beyond all? The first lady too?

How about a hair sample?

My hunch is that someone knows about the real story....The Israelis our people. I can’t imagine that the secret service in enamored with the Obamas. I’m sure they’re not as tacky as the Clintons trying to steal dinner ware from the WH, but just the same she strikes me as unclean...The said their campaign bus reeked....

[bgill]

GB, quit spreading lies. There was talk long before Dec. '08. There were many conservatives who knew he'd take the presidency if he got the nomination. Lots of us FReeper Texans voted in the March 4, 2008 RAT primary for Hill hoping she's get the nod because of the information from garnered from FR.

This map shows why Hussein hates Texas. Note Dallas, Austin, and Houston areas are extreme lib hence very pro-Hussien:

[bgill]

I'm confused about the years listed: 1965 on the top of application, and it looks like Obama's mother signed it in 1968.

Yes, that's just another oddity in the ever growing long, long list of oddities surrounding the usurper. Could Stanley Ann's passport renewals be as fake as the BC? Most certainly they could be. If you look through all the renewals, there are inconsistencies and blanks and obvious false statements. Many more "mistakes" than the random one you'd normally find. With so many inconcistencies, any other person's application would have been flagged.

Could Sr.'s INS records have also been faked? Of course, and I believe they have been. Frankly, I don't believe anything coming from any government agency about this plant.

My theory is that Soros or whomever "they" might be didn't have time to totally sanitize his past so played at screwing up enough dates, places, names, numbers on enough of the record so as to throw off anyone trying to investigate him. This would insure the investigations would get bogged down and follow false leads. Enough time wasted going in circles would allow him to complete his 4 year term and possibly get in 8 before enough solid evidence was found. By then, who knows if we'll even have elections.

[bgill]

I noticed the emergency contact was Stanley Armour Durham. I thought he was a furniture salesman (by all accounts). Yet, the form says to contact HIM at the Bank of Hawaii. Madelyn was the one that worked at the bank; why would SAD list dad c/o the bank????

Just another inconsistency in a long, long list of inconsistencies surrounding the usurper. If anyone else had so many "mistakes" on their applications they would have been flagged.

I have suspected for a while that Soros or whomever "they" are did not have time to completely sanitize his past so they changed dates, names, addresses, etc. to throw any researcher off. All the false leads sends us on wild tangents which wastes our time leaving him in office that much longer. "They" have succeeded, hence his run for the second term and eventually All High Ruler of the New World Order or whatever goal "they" are after.

[bgill]

People familiar with crossing the border from the US to Canada and back at the time have stated you didn’t really need a passport back then.

Back in the day, you didn't need a passport to visit Canada or Mexico which begs the question why did she need a passport in 1960 or before? And where did she travel?

[butterdezillion]

Those are questions that deserve legal answers.

Rolling Stone, - I know you know a lot about INS. Do they have a file on everybody in the country who has a non-citizen parent? Any reason you know of, for Obama II to have an INS file on him that they denied Pamela Barnett access to?

[rolling_stone]

I see no reason why they would have a file on someone just because they have a non-citizen parent..there would be millions.

They normally have what is called an A file, which is for aliens, and it is given a number. The number is also their alien registration number. A few people have an A number without an A file. but mostly from the 1940’s when registration began.

They could have other files for citizens who are or suspected of being immigration violators such as marriage fraud, smuggling aliens, document fraud etc..

There are also C files relating to naturalization see second link below

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=88ef299f81bb8210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=88ef299f81bb8210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=127e299f81bb8210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=127e299f81bb8210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD

[Yosemitest]

"two obviously fake Kenyan birth certificates"

You wish...!

Where's the Birth Certificate? - (Autographed)(Hardcover)


Buy it and read it.

[Bikkuri]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/breaking---witness-in-obama-passport-case-shot-in-head/blog-153547/

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=3950&posts=7


I have been on this since before the elections also.. but mostly passive. I tread carefully here anymore since this isn't my first nick on FR.. (my only other one was banned for doing a Vanity on something I did when I was 15yo (25 years ago) that was totally stupid...) ..)

A few people in authority HAVE attempted to learn info.. but we can see what happened there.. and it isn't nice :/

btw.. these are all about 1 individual who was murdered.. I just thought it best to post multiple links to show it is not BS..

[noinfringers2]

And furthermore, it needs explanation why there were/are so many dots that lead to Kenya e.g. early official Kenya claims of birth in Kenya, then shutting down all info by the Kenyan government, Michell’s reference to Kenya being Obama’s country, the two relief ships going to Kenya about the time Rahm took his vacation to Africa with a visit to Kenya, the reports by missionaries attending the birth. Yes. the original facts on passports could go a long way to dispelling doubts or fantasies whichever way one looks at the the situation. However, I believe that a person has to also have proof the history wasn’t and couldn’t be washed away by Obama and his cabal. Even Leo admits that though he has proven to himself birth was in Hawaii there is evidently a path that could lead to a different conclusion. In my mind the usurpers would use any obscuring actions to hide the usurpation even from lawyers.

[little jeremiah]

BTTT for the dead witness. Thanks for posting them. People forget, didn’t know, thought it wasn’t connected. etc.