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Indiana Sheriff wants random house searches
Mike Chirch ^

Posted on 05/16/2011 8:40:02 PM PDT by wrastu

Here it comes

Sheriff, Don Hartman Sr.

http://www.mikechurch.com/Today-s-Lead-Story/in-sheriff-if-we-need-to-conduct-random-house-to-house-searches-we-will.html


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To: Gondring
You made my day.

That is absolutely hilarious, but you are so right.

I tried one similar to that on a guy yesterday and he gave me that blank gap toothed stare of "are you lookin' at me buddy", so I'm sure he is not someone I'd want on my jury!

I think some of the folks posting on this actually fear having the police find out they have eagle feathers and ivory tusks stashed in their homes.

I'm more concerned with the thought that this particular Chief Justice was "turned" earlier at GITMO by AlQaida he was defending.

Saying that earlier I surfaced someone who seems to know the justice and wants to defend him from such charges.

161 posted on 05/17/2011 7:37:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Cboldt

Sec. 1. A person is justified in engaging in conduct otherwise prohibited if he has legal authority to do so.
As added by Acts 1976, P.L.148, SEC.1. Amended by Acts 1977, P.L.340, SEC.7.

The ruling has just removed our legal authority to do so...


162 posted on 05/17/2011 7:39:56 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Gondring

I was just describing their potential reasoning, not saying it was good or right.

Funny how I’m playing both sides of the issue via two different threads, and getting criticized each way. Not satisfying anyone.


163 posted on 05/17/2011 8:05:07 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Great children's books - http://www.UsborneBooksGA.com)
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To: Stayfrosty

If you’re talking about Arizona’s Sheriff Joe Arpaio, then yes he is a patriot. If you are talking about the sheriff in Indiana where this court ruling came down, who knows?


164 posted on 05/17/2011 8:05:52 AM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: Travis McGee

Thanks for the ping.


165 posted on 05/17/2011 8:06:34 AM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: wrastu

Did`nt take long.


166 posted on 05/17/2011 8:07:15 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Joe 6-pack
Read post #86.
167 posted on 05/17/2011 8:10:30 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: BlueLancer

Snerk.


168 posted on 05/17/2011 8:10:59 AM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: BlueLancer

Snerk.


169 posted on 05/17/2011 8:11:04 AM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: RC one

We had MB 500’s in Iraq and quite honestly I can’t think of a better CQB weapon. Usually just the sound of one being racked was enough. Of course wartime is different than protecting one’s own houselhold, but I just had my soldiers go straight for the neck. 00 buck shreds it like it was made of jello.


170 posted on 05/17/2011 8:14:45 AM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
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To: Vor Lady
I'm on the side of the Sheriff having plans to cordone off whole areas and conducting systematic house to house no-knock warrant sweeps for undocumented residents. The unspoken rule will be citizens afoul of 2nd Ammendment documentation requirement regulations get a get-out-of-jail-pass (wink-wink nudge-nudge know-what-its-like know-what-its-like).

Undocumented residents that resist said sweep (or seen attempting to break out of cordone perimeter) will be neutralized with out predjudice.

Yeah, that's what it is.

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

171 posted on 05/17/2011 8:18:33 AM PDT by raygun
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To: wrastu

I sent this sorry ass “sheriff” a blistering email last night asking him if he wiped his ass with the Constitution each morning. I also told him that his Stalinist tactics are going to get his officers killed and that their blood will be on HIS hands. I also told him that I normally consider anyone who kills a police officer to be the lowest form of bottomfeeder, however in the case of his officers invading a home on an “authorized” random illegal search, I would definitely side with the homeowner rather than the dead officer. Maybe the people of his county will luck out and he will be the first officer through the door on one of his KGB “searches”.


172 posted on 05/17/2011 8:19:20 AM PDT by NWFLConservative (Game On.......Fight Like a Girl!!...............Saracuda in 2012)
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To: A. Morgan
How does this disqualify Daniels'? Indiana law does not permit the governor to nominate whomever he wants. The Indiana Constitution expressly delegates to an unelected Commission the power to send three names to the governor, and he must select one of the three. Unfortunately, the Commission is structurally biased to picking liberals, because 3 of the 7 members are selected by the Indiana Bar Association, which leans left.
173 posted on 05/17/2011 8:19:45 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: DuncanWaring
And here's the rest of the paragraph that you left out:
Nowadays, an aggrieved arrestee has means unavailable at common law for redress against unlawful police action. E.g., Warner, supra, at 330 (citing the dangers of arrest at common law—indefinite detention, lack of bail, disease-infested prisons, physical torture—as reasons for recognizing the 5 right to resist); State v. Hobson, 577 N.W.2d 825, 835–36 (Wis. 1998) (citing the following modern developments: (1) bail, (2) prompt arraignment and determination of probable cause, (3) the exclusionary rule, (4) police department internal review and disciplinary procedure, and (5) civil remedies). We also find that allowing resistance unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest— as evident by the facts of this instant case. E.g., Hobson, 577 N.W.2d at 836 (―But in arrest situations that are often ripe for rapid escalation, one‘s ‗measured‘ response may fast become excessive.‖). Further, we note that a warrant is not necessary for every entry into a home. For example, officers may enter the home if they are in ―hot pursuit‖ of the arrestee or if exigent circumstances justified the entry. E.g., United States v. Santana, 427 U.S. 38, 42–43 (1976) (holding that retreat into a defendant‘s house could not thwart an otherwise proper arrest made in the course of a ―hot pursuit‖); Holder v. State, 847 N.E.2d 930, 938 (Ind. 2006) (―Possible imminent destruction of evidence is one exigent circumstance that may justify a warrantless entry into a home if the fear on the part of the police that the evidence was immediately about to be destroyed is objectively reasonable.‖). Even with a warrant, officers may have acted in good faith in entering a home, only to find later that their entry was in error. E.g., Arizona v. Evans, 514 U.S. 1, 11 (1994); United States v. Leon, 468 U.S. 897, 922–25 (1984). In these situations, we find it unwise to allow a homeowner to adjudge the legality of police conduct in the heat of the moment. As we decline to recognize a right to resist unlawful police entry into a home, we decline to recognize a right to batter a police officer as a part of that resistance.

174 posted on 05/17/2011 8:20:19 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

The Amerikan Gestapo?


175 posted on 05/17/2011 8:21:44 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Moonman62
In these situations, we find it unwise to allow a homeowner to adjudge the legality of police conduct in the heat of the moment.

IOW... Serfs must do as they are told.

176 posted on 05/17/2011 8:26:39 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: ctdonath2
Funny how I’m playing both sides of the issue via two different threads, and getting criticized each way. Not satisfying anyone.

You and me, both, my FRiend!

177 posted on 05/17/2011 9:04:56 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: EBH
This notion of random searches without warrant is a formula for more dead cops and more dead citizens. As it should be. Which is exactly why the court said you had no right to resist. ,

Contemptible response by the Courts. A persons property should be absolutely sacred. I don't care what is going on anyone's property, if someone from the government needs to know, let them get a Warrant -- absolutely no exceptions.

Government power is relentlessly growing -- If not turned around soon, it will become an evil that will bring Hell upon the citizens.

178 posted on 05/17/2011 9:19:44 AM PDT by sand88
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To: Hardraade

>>“What is that commotion at the door?”<<

Click, BANG

“Someone at the wrong address, go back to sleep Dear.”


179 posted on 05/17/2011 9:24:11 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing to America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are..)
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To: Travis McGee

When hell freezes over...


180 posted on 05/17/2011 9:43:00 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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