Oh, birthers, you will never fail to find new sources of tinfoil.
Socrates weeps...
Boroach Obuggery is a fraud! Impeach him now!
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So the real name of the Kenyan is [i]Virginia Sunahara[/i] ? Interesting....
This might be why no one else ever came forward to say that was their number!
Wonder if the Mother was Ann. That was the recent name believed to have originally been written on the forgery...Stanley and Dunham to have been Photoshopped.
Interesting.
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It is looking more and more like barry bassturd was ‘gifted’ a number that had been initially assigned to a little girl who died within days of her birth. So, is that CIA work, or Hawaii covering for their butts after years ago billy ayers’ girlfriend creating an ID for barry bassturd?
Well, the various authorities managed to stave off this investigator, so that nothing can be proved. But it certainly fits the timeline. It strikes me as a real possibility.
Note, too, that the Hawaiian registry of births did NOT distribute pre-numbered birth forms to the various hospitals, as I have often seen the anti-birthers claim. Instead, the forms were numbered at the central office in the order in which they were received.
So the date discrepancy between Obama’s supposed date of birth and birth number and those of the Nordyke twins remains unexplained.
As I said, no proof here, because the officials stonewalled the investigator. But it certainly is a possible explanation of who Obama’s family and their accomplices stole the birth certificate from.
this whole thing stinks like a 5 day old fish for sure. the bigger problem is our master’s unwillingness to do anything about it.
Interesting information contained at the link. Thanks for posting it.
I sure wish someone would make another effort (or multiple efforts) to get the Sunahara family to cooperate in getting copies of both documents. The truth in this matter would help to either expose the usurper and his co-conspirators or close the door on a false lead.
So far, it sounds like the assumptions have a fair chance of proving to be true, especially in light of the serious abnormalities in the so-called “proof” offered up by the 0bama people.
Reminds me of the old, old joke about the buck private who was standing guard duty at 3 am in the middle of nowhere when his Lt. suddenly showed up and asked him “What would you do if you saw a destroyer sailing across that open field toward you?” The private replied “I sink it with a torpedo, sir!” The officer responded, “Oh yeah, and just WHERE would you get a torpedo?” The private’s reply, “Same place you got your destroyer, sir!”
So the answer is, THAT number came from the same place as Obama’s social security number!
I just emailed the following at 2:54 PM CT, today, Friday, 05/13/2011, to info@devrich.com, the guy who made the video re: the purported "birth certificate" on http://FakeBirthCertificate.org, debunking the version found on http://WhiteHouse.gov:
Dear info@devrich.com,
I saw your video of Obama's alleged "Birth Certificate."
You analysis is GREAT, but I think you stated that the twins were born hours before him.
The OBAMA "certificate"
Birth: 7:24 PM on 08/*04*/1961
Signed: 08/08/1961
Certificate: 10641
The TWINS' certificates:
Birth: 2:12 PM and 2:17 PM on 08/*05*/1961
Signed: 08/11/1961
Certificates: 10637 an 10638
--i.e. the twins were born 19 "certificate-hours" "LATER"--
with 10637 an 10638, and 5 minutes apart, respectively
The MOST LOGICAL explanation is that **IF** Obama was ACTUALLY born in **KENYA**, it would have taken EXTRA TIME for even a PHONE CALL to be made back to Hawaii---via a long distance operator---or even a wire---to relay the message of the birth to Hawaii.
In addition, according to the world map found at WORLD MAP WITH TIME ZONES (http://www.worldtimezone.com/index24.php), Kenya is THIRTEEN (13) HOURS **AHEAD** of Hawaii, due to the time zones, so:
KENYA @ 1924 (7:24 PM) on 08/04/1961 (Obama's purported birth time) would be
HAWAII @ 0624 (6:24 AM) on 08/04/1961 (1924 - 1300 = HAWAII 0624) and
HAWAII @ 1412 (2:12 PM) on 08/**05**/1961 (the first twin's birth date & time) would be
KENYA @ 0312 (3:12 AM) on 08/**06**/1961 (HI 1412 + 1300 = KENYA 2712, putting it to the next day)
Comparing the times in Kenyan time, Obama was born at 1924 on 08/04/1961 KENYAN TIME
and the first twin was born at 0312 on 08/**06**/1961 KENYAN TIME,
so if Obama was born in Kenya, he was born 1 DAY, 7 HRS, 48 MIN earlier than the first twin:
08/04/1961 @ 2400 minus
08/04/1961 @ 1924 equals 4 hrs 36 min before on 8/04/1961
Plus ALL 24 hrs of 08/05/1961
08/06/1961 @ 0312 minus
08/06/1961 @ 0000 equals 3 hrs 12 min of 08/06/1961
TOTAL: **IF** Obama was born in KENYA, he was born 1 DAY, 7 HRS, 48 MIN of **ACTUAL** TIME PASSING **BEFORE** the first twin was born in Hawaii.
If Obama's mother (or Obama's purported Kenyan relatives) did not or could not get a phone call placed through to Hawaii that night (remember how hard it was to make long distance calls even WITHIN the U.S. in 1961, much less FROM AFRICA), it could very well might not have even been ATTEMPTED until 0800 (8 AM) Kenyan time on 08/05/1961 (i.e. the next day), and could VERY EASILY have taken until JUST AFTER the TWINS' BIRTH, to even be known about in Hawaii and forwarded to the proper authorities for recording the birth of the child of Hawaiian residents.
If actual "Doctors" (or "officials") in Hawaii were made aware of the birth as soon as it was known in Hawaii (or they received some sort of actual documentation via wire from Kenya), they may have SIGNED the "certificate" on 08/08/1961, but may have WAITED for some actual documents to arrive by wire.
It is the only LOGICAL explanation that makes sense to me.
Is it possible this is just the order that the main office opened the envelopes from various sources? Could it be that the person who assigned the numbers had an in-box that he or she allowed to fill up before opening the envelopes and assigning numbers?
Just asking.
What about all the other numbers before and after?? 010-635-010636-010637-010638-010639-010641-010642-010643-010644.
Maybe then we can establish some sort of patter.
Edith Coats was born in Wahiawa Hospital, Wahiawa, Oahu, HI. Her birth certificate is signed by the local registrar U.K. L. Lee
Tomiyo/Virginia Sunahara was born the morning of Aug 4 1961 at Wahiawa General Hospital.
I wonder if Virgina’s birth certificate was also signed by U.K. L. Lee since she was born in Wahiawa like Edith Coats.
See Post #6 to see a copy of Edith Coats birth certificate.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2712234/posts
The Nordyke twins were born in Kapiolani and that their birth certificates were signed by the local registrar Beatrice L. Ygnacio. At least that’s what the name looks like to me.
Why is Obama’s birth certificate is signed by U.K. L. Lee.
Do the local registrars have anything to do with individual hospitals?
Dang, I wrote my post a bit ago and I’m already behind.
So many posts to read and catch up on. Sorry if my post is a distraction.
God bless you for your research. So many ways to look at this issue too.
“His mother was NOT 18 when he was born, so couldn’t confer citizenship on him. So even if his mother wasn’t legally married, he still couldn’t be a citizen”
95 posted on 04/30/2011 2:35:58 PM PDT by gunner03
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2712868/posts?page=95#95
Satindoll’s research — Was Obama a Foreign College Student?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2712868/posts?page=121#121
[Tied with Satindoll’s research ...]
Taitz Thrown Off MSNBC For Bringing Up Obama’s Social Security Number
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2713177/posts
How Obama got into Harvard [Jack Cashill]
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=158901
“The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, from Texas,” Sutton said. “He is the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men [Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal]. He told me about Obama.”