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One Freeper's take on the birth certificate releasae
April 27, 2011 | self

Posted on 04/27/2011 11:37:37 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

Here are the points I see 1) This is a big win for Trump and America. 2) The release has killed Obama's plan to use a Clintonian rope a dope with this issue. I think he planned to let this issue simmer until October 2012 then pull the rug out from under Trump or whoever the GOP nominee is. That card has been played and it still hasn't killed the issue, you can hear that in the way it is being reported. 3) There are still a few serious questions about the document and what it does. Since Obama's mother was only 18 at his birth and his father being a Kenyan did he get the type of citizenship required to be president? 4) Trump is just beginning. If he could get Obama to answer this question in a month, he will have less trouble with other issues. How can Obama keep dodging demands to release his 2012 budget?

This is a long way from over and the score is Trump ONE Obama and the media ZERO so far.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcert; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: WhiskeyX

Illegal based on what? The Constitution is mute on the issue. Supreme Court decisions also have never explicitly stated a definition.


41 posted on 04/27/2011 12:05:41 PM PDT by al44
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To: Coyotehockey
Don’t you want a conservative for President?

Of course, but we also have to play the hand we're dealt. And pretty much, at least the current crop of candidates is the same milquetoast GOP crap we've had to deal with since Reagan left office.

42 posted on 04/27/2011 12:07:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sprite518

Never mind my request. Found it.


43 posted on 04/27/2011 12:07:47 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Nothing changes if nothing changes.)
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To: Coyotehockey
This release of a document is a victory. It's now been proven that Team Obama could have released this years ago but chose not to. I'm still waiting (and it will probably be a long wait) for a reasonable explanation.

Perhaps the biggest victory is Trump, Conservative or not, has given Republicans an example of how to be successful candidates instead of politically correct wimps.

44 posted on 04/27/2011 12:08:26 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Mount Athos
If his father had Kenyan citizenship at birth, then Obama’s “natural born citezenship” status is in doubt.

No it's not; he simply is does not qualify, not having two parents who were citizens at his birth. No doubt at all, by his own evidence.

45 posted on 04/27/2011 12:09:06 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: mainevet

Here you go from MSNBC.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/longformbirthcertificate.pdf

I have changed it. So you may already see it modified. Use you mouse wheel to go up and down the document. Also it’s currently set to 3,817%.

I forgot the White House now tracks everyone. You can get it from Scribed too.

http://www.scribd.com/


46 posted on 04/27/2011 12:09:29 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Cowgirl

It depends if some state passes a law stating that all presidential candidates must prove their constitutional eligibility, and then if someone challenges him.


47 posted on 04/27/2011 12:09:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Sprite518

thank you.


48 posted on 04/27/2011 12:10:08 PM PDT by mainevet (Get an M1911 or two or three or four)
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To: jmaroneps37

One thing it does; it shows that Obama, the White House, liberals, the DNC and the media are all liars - the COLB was not the birth certificate, even though they all tried to pretend it was.


49 posted on 04/27/2011 12:13:24 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: mainevet

Here is the 100% version. Just right click over the document, and then left click “Marquee Zoom”. Use your mouse wheel to look at the “R” in Barack. Then scroll down and you can clearly see the white out the type over.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/A_Politics/longformbirthcertificate.pdf


50 posted on 04/27/2011 12:13:48 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: GSWarrior

See post 50. You will laugh it’s so obvious.


51 posted on 04/27/2011 12:15:15 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: jmaroneps37
Why is "the" spelled "TXE" in the stamp?
52 posted on 04/27/2011 12:15:22 PM PDT by Reagan69
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To: ex-snook

Issues? Another “refuse-to-get-your hands-dirty” idealist heard from, I see.

Anything that works to get him off the ballot/declared ineligible is fine by me.

At the end of the day Macchiavelli was still right.


53 posted on 04/27/2011 12:15:30 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: jmaroneps37
O wants to run against Trump. He does not want to run against a true conservative by releasing this now he is helping to insure Trump gets the 2012 GOP nomination or better yet Trump runs as a third party candidate.

He wants to keep the issue alive to discredit the GOP, he said as much in the presser by saying some will not be satisfied...

On the whole O is getting what he wants judging from most of the comments here today...

54 posted on 04/27/2011 12:17:32 PM PDT by montanajoe
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To: Sprite518

Ignoramus question: What does the “Marquee Zoom” do that 400% or 800% doesn’t?


55 posted on 04/27/2011 12:17:38 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: Rational Thought

Perhaps. It is still a defeat for Birtherism - the faithful will battle on but for most Americans it the issue is over. I can certainly hear the GOP leadership sighing in relieve that they don’t have to address this issue anymore. It doesn’t do much for Trump besides making him look foolish - what do you think his crack team of investigators in Hawaii will discover?

He didn’t release this earlier because he felt he benefited politically from it. He is a shrewd politician - it is dangerous to assume that this will hurt Obama.


56 posted on 04/27/2011 12:17:47 PM PDT by Coyotehockey
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To: Mount Athos

You’re right.

Although my husband and I are NBC’s, my son is not. He was born in a German hospital. It was explained to us, in detail, when my son was born that he was a US Citizen, but NOT natural born and the only stipulation of his citizen status was that he could never be POTUS.

McCain had a similar issue, BUT he was born in a US hospital on a US base which was classified as US soil in a foreign country. That is the difference between him and my son.

For this reason, I think that it’s terribly unjust for military families to sacrifice so much for their country, only to have this over their heads, but I do accept the limitation. It is the Law. Period.

HOWEVER, this can be fixed by having military babies born in military hospitals on US bases. But they won’t do it because it’s cheaper to just pay the foreign drs to deliver the babies. It’s crap, but it’s our reality.

The president must respect the Constitution and the Law.


57 posted on 04/27/2011 12:18:40 PM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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To: Coyotehockey

Ok, I will bite...

WHO?

If Palin or West doesn’t run then 0bama wins in a rout.


58 posted on 04/27/2011 12:19:44 PM PDT by Finatic (I ran out of change and have given up on hope.)
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To: Mount Athos

::: If his father had Kenyan citizenship at birth, then Obamugabe’s “natural born citizenship” status is in doubt. :::

But, the people have spoken at the ballot box. Too little, too late! [/sarc][/SCOTUS opinion]


59 posted on 04/27/2011 12:19:59 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: 1L
I'm going to look at it now. Here look at this,
60 posted on 04/27/2011 12:20:41 PM PDT by Sprite518
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