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Hawaii senator questions Obama's true birth father
WND ^ | April 23, 2011 | WND

Posted on 04/24/2011 1:22:43 PM PDT by RobinMasters

The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate told a radio interviewer today he believes "the real issue" stopping Barack Obama from releasing his long-form birth certificate is something the president has to hide, perhaps even the name of his actual birth father.

Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom further told the host of "Aaron Klein Investigative Radio" on WABC 770 AM in New York City that so long as Obama refuses to be transparent about his past, questions about the president's birth remain "a legitimate issue."

"My particular point of view – and why I haven't identified myself as a 'birther,' per se – is that [Obama] probably was born [in Hawaii] and that the real issue is not the birth certificate, but what's on the birth certificate," Slom told Klein.

Asked what that could be, Slom said, "It could have to do with what his name is on the birth certificate, who is actually listed as his father, the citizenship of the father."

He continued, "My belief is that there is a birth certificate, he was born here, but that there is information that for reasons known only to him he doesn't want released. If it were just the birth certificate, that would be one thing, but it's his school records, it's employment records. … Why would anybody, let alone the president of the United States, spend millions of dollars in legal fees to keep that hidden?"

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KEYWORDS: 2012; allegedlyamerican; allegedlyeligible; birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obamafather; slom
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To: sometime lurker
Misprision of felony 18 U.S.C. § 4:
Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

81 posted on 04/24/2011 4:51:47 PM PDT by bvw
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To: sometime lurker

The careful words of Hawaiian officials to date make, perhaps, no clear assertion of fact that would set them up for a misprision offense.


82 posted on 04/24/2011 4:54:17 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Texas Fossil

But if Barrack H. Obama Sr. is not Bambi’s father, then Bambi is guilty of perjury and should bear the consequences for this national deception.

The more one looks at this unsavory affair, the more one realizes that all this did not happen haphazardly but that innumerable politicians were involved in perpetrating and enabling this fraud.


83 posted on 04/24/2011 4:55:33 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: RobinMasters
World Net Daily appears to be running interference for Obama. Obama was born to a non-citizen father. 14th Amendment Author John Bingham said “...of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen….Does anyone not understand that Barack Senior owed allegiance to at least two other sovereignties? Bingham wanted his explanation to stress the importance of sole allegiance, which is synonymous to the Supreme Court with citizenship.

Obama told us he is a native-born citizen, a 14th Amendment citizen, not a natural born citizen. No where in the 14th Amendment will you find the term, natural-born citizen. It is from our common-law, and is used in our Constitution and in about a dozen supreme court cases. It comes from 'natural-law' - the notion that a child is presumed to inherit the allegiance of his parents. That clarity is being obscured by the WND. It distracts citizens from the truth. Note that Obots, whether from WND or not, do not, and can not argue that truth. WND and its followers simply issue a dozen allegations each day about birth certificates, or alternative fathers, or rumors from Kenya. They sell lots of books.

If the courts won't honor the truth of Obama’s unconstitutionality, of what use are the tabloid-like guesses of alternative birth scenarios? They are of use - to Obama supporters, to stall for more time to complete the destruction of our economy, so that when the civil strife descends, as in Egypt, the best organized group in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood, the group which controls our military and justice department will take charge. Obama is Constitutionally ineligible. He told us that, but depends upon fear and ignorance to obscure that truth.

84 posted on 04/24/2011 4:59:13 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: 353FMG

i bet you are right on this.


85 posted on 04/24/2011 5:14:13 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (I am keeping the faith, I have not finished my course and I am fighting for the good)
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To: 353FMG
innumerable politicians

innumerable indeed, and traitors all.

86 posted on 04/24/2011 5:17:47 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: bjorn14
"If you look at BHO’s baby picture he is a spittin’ image of FMD no DNA test needed."

Barack Obama Sr. had a third wife. Her name before marriage to Obama Sr. was Ruth Nidesand. Ruth like Ann Dunham is white. She had two sons by Obama Sr who would be half brothers of Obama Jr. The sons eventually dropped the Obama name and took the last name of Ruth's second husband which is/was Ndesandjo. One of the sons is deceased, but the other whose name is Mark lives in China and runs an internet company and, to my eye at least, bears a resemblance to Obama Jr. He also seems to look nothing like his father Obama Sr.

He lived with Obama Sr. and has talked about the abuse he and his mother suffered at BO Sr's hands.


87 posted on 04/24/2011 5:18:15 PM PDT by Mila
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To: bgill

Either way, he is a total Fraud.....and a Traitor if he is a citizen.


88 posted on 04/24/2011 5:20:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: sometime lurker

OH GOOD GOD, you cannot be serious.

That has got to be the most anemic cooked-up Obot response yet.

In the FIRST place, it is 1000% guaranteed private investigators (who do not play according to HIPPA rules LOLOLOL—but rather $$$) have gained access to patient admission databases for the year in question.

Second, you’re saying that if there were genuine evidence that Obama’s mother was on record as having been a patient in any Honolulu hospital, amid all this storm and controversy, that said hospital would not step forward to claim ( with the grateful permission of ze Fraudster himself) the distinction of “birthplace” of the Potus?

Yeah...ok...NOT.


89 posted on 04/24/2011 5:21:03 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Trick or Treat

Check out photos of his supposed grandfather when he was a young man. Notice the ears. I think Grandpa may actually be the father. Obama has supposedly referred to him as his father on a couple of occasions. It’s just not right that we have to be speculating like this.


90 posted on 04/24/2011 5:32:19 PM PDT by Josephat
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To: Texas Fossil
There is only 1 way for Obozo to be a “natural born” U.S. Citizen as required by the Constitution. Only if his father is someone other than BHO, Sr. and that someone is also a U.S. Citizen.

Incorrect.

There is a difference in law between the legal father and the biological father. In most states (all I believe), and I suspect under federal law where it might be relevant, the law is concerned only with the legal father. Whether the actual sperm donor might be someone else is not relevant to legal standing.

If she was married to Pop Obama at the time of the birth, Pop is the legal father. Who the actual biological father may be, assuming it's someone else, is just not relevant.

I find the rather odd parallel to our Lord and Savior amusing. Christians believe Jesus was not the biological son of Joseph, but that he nevertheless inherited the legal right to the throne of Judah from him as the legal father.

91 posted on 04/24/2011 5:47:56 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: El Sordo
The simplest explanation is that BHO was born in Hawaii

The Diversion Continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

92 posted on 04/24/2011 5:48:16 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: El Sordo

Really? Well show the document then and all the others he is hiding as well.


93 posted on 04/24/2011 5:50:08 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: cycle of discernment
WHY is there no record in any Hawaiian hospital of Stanley Ann Dunham ever being admitted?

Has anybody checked how many 50 year old admission records are still extant for anybody else from that time period and those hospitals?

I'm just a little older than Obama, and it wouldn't surprise me if the hospital records from my birth aren't around anymore. Organizations do discard records if there is no reason to keep them.

94 posted on 04/24/2011 5:51:11 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Spaulding
the term, natural-born citizen ..is from our common-law, and is used in our Constitution and in about a dozen supreme court cases. It comes from 'natural-law' - the notion that a child is presumed to inherit the allegiance of his parents.

Nope. Common law is jus solis, place of birth.

Whether the jus sanguuinis, heredity, is natural law is debatable, but it is most certainly not common law.

95 posted on 04/24/2011 5:58:59 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Of course your records are around.

Unless you were hatched in remote Appalachia or before 1902, AND if you born in an operating hospital ( such as Obama “was”) there are records.


96 posted on 04/24/2011 6:01:08 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: Mila

The other brother of Mark may be fiction.

Check out this thread, explains a lot but start earlier than the end or you’ll get confused.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2702976/posts?page=1122

A lot of research and extremely interesting info on that thread. Very little of the myth of Zero is fact.


97 posted on 04/24/2011 6:01:17 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Josephat
Check out photos of his supposed grandfather when he was a young man. Notice the ears. I think Grandpa may actually be the father.

You missed the rather noticeable fact of complexion and went with the ears? LOL

If Grandpa were the father, a remarkably evidence-free assertion, then BO would be 100% white.

Per the ears, BO has 25% of his genetic material from Gramps, assuming the family tree is as specified. Plenty to account for ear shape.

98 posted on 04/24/2011 6:02:57 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: RobinMasters

This is old speculation....this is what folks said in the beginning...even Joseph Farah...well, Joe has moved way passed this now...and believes he wasn’t even born in HI.


99 posted on 04/24/2011 6:05:06 PM PDT by shield (Rev2:9 Blasphemy of them which say they're Israelites, and are not, but are the synaGOGue of Satan.)
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To: Sherman Logan
If she was married to Pop Obama at the time of the birth, Pop is the legal father.

There is a divorce document to support reversing the adoption of Obozo by Lolo Serotoro, but no document to support the marriage between Stanley Ann and BHO, Sr. At the time Stanley Ann was said to have married BHO, Sr. he was already married in Kenya. And there is no evidence that BHO, Sr. ever lived with Stanley Ann in HI (or anywhere in the U.S.). So if there is no father listed on the original BC what does that make him? If he was born in the U.S. that is one thing, but if he was born say in Canada it is quite another.

If he was foreign born and his father was not a U.S. Citizen he would not even be a citizen at all. The Immigration Act of 1952 was the law that controlled eligibility of mixed (nationality) marriage births, not the current law.

100 posted on 04/24/2011 6:06:14 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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