Posted on 04/18/2011 3:59:30 AM PDT by jenk
Donald Trump was a topic of discussion at work the other day. It was right after we heard Trump on Rush Limbaugh's radio show. Every lady in the room shook her head.
First of all, Trump seems kind of cheap. This is beside the point of my main thrust here, but I want to mention it because I was kind of put off. Friday's show was the annual Cure-A-Thon for Leukemia/Lymphoma that Rush does every year. Rush started off the show by announcing that he and Katherine would contribute $500,000. A half a mil.
Now, Trump has been handing money out to Democrats his whole career, and all he could muster for the poor cancer folks was a measly $100,000? Awkward!
Back to work. The ladies and I listened to Trump, some of the stuff he said really jumped out. There is a lot that Trump said that is worthy of needling, but just at face value, Trump doesn't make enough sense to make us want to vote for him. From Rush's site:
"I'm doing great -- and, by the way, if I run, then you'll see how great I've done. Because I'll put in a financial statement which will knock people's socks off. Just knock their socks off -- and, you know, I'm very proud of it. So I'll make a decision prior to June, and we'll see what happens."He's a salesman. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but you have to go on faith. Some of his deals in the past have been great, but some have been monumentally bad. I mean, really, really bad, believe me.
If you listen to him long enough, you start to talk/write like him, believe me. A lot of his sentences end with "believe me."
"DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, you're right, Rush, but I will say this. You know, I've dealt with Democrats and Republicans all my life, and somebody said, "Oh, do you have that much experience politically?" You know, I've dealt -- and understand this better than anybody. I've dealt with politicians all of my life. I've also dealt with foreign countries. I'm doing jobs all over the world. I've dealt with foreign countries for a long period of time. The fact is, I think somebody that got along with the Democrats -- and I do get along -- now, you know, that could change instantaneously. You understand that. But the level of animosity... You know, in the old days "across the aisle" wasn't the worst thing. People got along. Today, the level of hatred, the level of anger -- and I'm the most militaristic person there is, if they treat me improperly. But I think having a little bit of a relationship on the other side of the aisle is not so bad, Rush, where deals can be made. But good deals, not the deal like Obama gave the other day."
So what did he basically say? I deal with the dems, I deal with the Chinese, I deal with Republicans.... that's what he is, a dealer, a wheeler dealer, a deal-maker. A negotiator. A compromise-maker. I don't want to make a deal, compromise whatever. For me, he's a deal-breaker, and the ladies at work think so too.
When Rush put some hard truth to the Donald, Trump reacted in a very curious way.
RUSH: But they're not gonna want you to succeed at anything. They will stop progress for America. Your relationship with them will change once you become elected. If you become president, you might have the ability to bring them in line, but they will not start that way. They will be out to destroy you to preserve their way of life, their political ideology. Remember, their power derives from creating more and more people dependent on government for their daily needs.DONALD TRUMP: Right.
RUSH: You don't believe that.
DONALD TRUMP: Rush, you're probably right and probably it won't work out in the kind of manner which makes sense and would be good and then they'll see the real Donald Trump, because I do much better under adversity than I do the other way. I'd love to see it work where people could actually get together and go down the line and straighten out this country. You're probably right, and that's fine, and then I'll do I think an even better job.
Trump said, the best laid plans don't work out, but then, then I'll really shine, believe me.
No, I don't think so. These aren't policies and directions for the country. These are brags on the ability of a prolific builder of buildings. The first thing a salesman has to do is convince his investors that he has a plan. Trump doesn't do that. He asks us to rely on trust and belief. How different is that from Obama's campaign? Not much.
One other thing marked our workday conversation. Trump seems like the kind of guy that gets his mind set on big deals, and does not let go. No matter what the obstacle, the cost, the insanity of the deal, he seems like the type who will double down, and for what? Not to lead the nation, but to win the contest at becoming President. We all agreed that that egotism is dangerous.
You are strange. Palin showed up in 2008 too. Does that lend any weight to your bullet-proof theory? *rolls eyes*
“Now, Trump has been handing money out to Democrats his whole career, and all he could muster for the poor cancer folks was a measly $100,000?”
How much money did you donate? I don’t think I’d be putting down others contributions unless you’re willing to do more.
How can you compare Palin and Trump? Palin has been consistent, and has been a legitimate. Trump is an attention-seeker, who woke up 3 weeks ago and decided he was a Republican. If he weren’t talking about birth certificates, the RINOs would be dumping Romney to embrace him.
You know something. Freepers already know Obama is not worth crap. Are you one of those Trumpbots?
There’s a great article on the Drudge report about Trump’s manager. I think that’s his title. His manager donated and voted for zero in 2008, He brags about how close they are to politicians and stars. What does that tell you?
The stars are mostly all libs.
People, don’t trust Trump - please, use your discernment where he’s concerned.
He has a voice that is 3 octaves lower than Palin - that's a huge advantage.
His command of the language allows him to speak freely and with confidence.
His ego is so huge and his relentless references to his business victories it became clear to me and others that he is making fun of himself. That flaw makes him human, very un-Obama like.
He is forceful in his populism, declearing that we should take our 1.75 trillion spent on the war in Iraq out in oil. A popular sentiment.
"Presidential" can mean different things to different people but from what I saw on Saturday and the response from the crowd, it seems Trump is indeed a possible President. And I am now very leery of this otherwise Presidential-seeming, Larger than Life, liberal-supporting mogul.
Ping to #12.....remember what we were talking about maybe 10-12 days ago?
ever look into his business losses? didn’t think so.
what were you talking about?
sorry, you started out praising Trump and then said you were leery, didn’t understand your point.
However, was “O” EVER (is he now) Presidential?
This question was asked, and more appropriately, about candidate ‘Obama’ (who ever the f^% THAT was!!!).
You come across as a Concerned Troll yourself. If there's anyone we should doubt and worry about splitting Conservatives, it's Donald Trump.
"...they’re going to constantly tell you which candidates can never be elected, like Palin, like Trump and so on..."
Equating Palin and Trump? There's a hue difference in the two. Sarah Palin served as governor of Alaska and was the nominee for VP in 2008. Donald Trump is a wheeling, dealing businessman; a mini George Soros in that he donates money to whichever horse in the race will make life good for Donald Trump. Where's the integrity in that?
Short memories around here. This is not the first time Trump has ‘run for president’. He usually has a book he wants to hawk so he’s out there with his baloney.
IIRC, the same thing Colon Powell did to sell his book.
Too bad Rush gave him a platform to begin his crappola. Suddenly we’re all celebrity crazed.
Sheesh.
we are supposed to see Trump as a good presidential candidate because he is better than Obama?
All of them are better. Your arguments aren't worth squat.
I heard that in the polls, Trump is at 27%, Romney is 18%, and Huck is lower than Romney. Huckabee was audacious enough to say that he could “see a Huckabee-Trump ticket”, with Huck as Pres. and Trump as VP. Does he not get it? Trump is far ahead of him; I think he needs to reverse the names.
They’d all be terrible, but I think Trump would be far better than the others when it comes to our economy and the China-U.S. connection.
I’m for Palin unless someone better appears on the scene.
Vote for post of the past week !
the Tea Party is not a third party. You dont see tea party on the ballot.
Trump is nothing more than shill for obama, a Pied Piper leading conservative republicans and the Tea Party into a state of ridicule and irrelevancy.
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