MSNBC's Strange Obsession with the Confederacy

The Daily Caller ^ | 4/12/2011 | Matt Philbin

[patriotgal71]

Tuesday, April 12 marks the 150th anniversary of the bombardment of Fort Sumter and the start of the U.S. Civil War. Over the next four years, the nation will be commemorating the bloody events of a century and a half ago, pondering their meaning and their place in history. Media outlets will produce features on the valor and the squalor, the heroes, martyrs and villains, and what they mean to today’s Americans.

[wardaddy]

This forum has a cadre of revolving South bashers.

maybe MSNBC is their day job.

[re_nortex]

This forum has a cadre of revolving South bashers.

Fortunately one of the most notorious was zotted in December (a wonderful Christmas present from the boss). And the others have seemingly been on better behavior over the past few months.

The zottee reminded me of Chris Matthews in many ways for his unabashed hatred of all things pertaining to South. The South is our nation's bulwark against Socialism with solid, reliably Christian Conservative values. It's also the one region embracing the liberty of right-to-work laws to oppose the oppression of forced unionism.

[Celtic Cross]

My take on the Civil War-

My ancestor Patrick Slain was a Union cavalryman. There were gallant, honest men fighting on both sides. The media loves to harp on slavery, which was not by any stretch the main issue at the time, and I believe that the South was considering banning slavery - I don't recall if it was on the table for after the war, or if the Europeans got involved, or what (look it up).

I don't think Lincoln was the devil incarnate, as some seem to. I don't think the confederates were imps from hell, as most seem to believe.

Overall, despite the fact that I'm a northerner, live in the north, am descended of a Union man, etc, my sympathies lay with the South and States rights.

That said, I don't believe by a longshot that the south will rise again. Its over.

[Celtic Cross]

Who was the zottee?

[re_nortex]

Who was the zottee?

None other than the aptly named Non-Sequitur. I've pinged central va because there was indeed much rejoicing throughout the land when that anti-Southern bigot (and defender of sexual deviants) left our company.

[Perdogg]

my ancestors fought for the CSA. I even have a confederate sword.

[re_nortex]

Overall, despite the fact that I'm a northerner, live in the north, am descended of a Union man, etc, my sympathies lay with the South and States rights.

My mom's family are all Southerners and I would have had the good fortune to have been born in Texas had my dad not been killed in WWII just before my birth. My mom had to head back to his family in Pennsylvania, thus, through no fault of my own, I was born in a Yankee state.

Nevertheless, even while being raised in a forced-union state, even as a child I had a strong affinity for the South. In elementary school, I became good friends with a little girl whose father had transferred to Pittsburgh from Beaumount for one of the steel and pipe companies. Her accent, well-bred manners and charm only confirmed my attitudes about the South.

Interestingly, as I pen this message, I'm reading a book by Henry Miller (yes, I know he was a Socialist, so forgive me but I read a wide variety of authors) who came back to visit America after living abroad in France for years. The only part of the country he found to his liking was the South of the 1940's because of the genuinely authentic people. Miller is wrong on so many things but he did evaluate that correctly.

I opted to head South for college and then ultimately decided on Texas as my home. Although we have far too many Messkins here, the strong Christian Conservative values still live on in this grand portion of Dixie.

[campaignPete R-CT]

let me know if you need any accurate information about the Confederacy and the Union. I am busy and am not an historian but I’ll do my best.

Oh, and it was the South that gave us Pres Wilson and FDR. The Republican monopoly on the country, 1965 to 1913, was broken.

[Colonel_Flagg]

Overall, despite the fact that I'm a northerner, live in the north, am descended of a Union man, etc, my sympathies lay with the South and States rights.

I too am a Northerner, and freely admit that the South had it right when it came to States' rights.

[central_va]

He’s back and his new name is K-Stater. We need Jim’s help again.

[WVNan]

Born and raised in TN & AL, I can rightfully say that the South is a state of mind, not a location. You have to be part of it to understand.

[Cheetahcat]

The Civil War was NOT about Slavery,in fact Grant had some interesting comments on that subject.

[ExTxMarine]

None other than the aptly named Non-Sequitur.

He and I had more than one "discussion" about the south - and he was always WRONG!

[Emperor Palpatine]

The South lost, the North won.

Get over it, you Johnny Reb, You!

[Colonel_Flagg]

I don’t doubt that for a moment.

[NavyCanDo]

I had ancestors on both sides of the war, so my comments are, I hope carefully constructed not to show disrespected for those family members who sent their sons off to fight with the CSA, namely with the 11th and 23rd NC, and any Southern Freepers, But if MSNBC wants to focus on something, why don’t they focus the Political Parties in power at the time in the Industrialized anti-slavery North and the pro-slavery secessionist South. I think they will finds as far as the political powers behind the causes of the war, it was very largely a Republican vs. Democrat confrontation.

[justice14]

I always hobbied reading about the Civil War. Even as a young child I would actually listen to the Gettysburg audio tour at my house while I played w/ my army men. Yes, I will admit that.

I was the one in class always arguing that the south wasn’t fighting primarily b/c of slavery, but for state rights.

However, I do like Lincoln and find him to be one of my favorite Presidents.

Also, If you ever get a chance to go to Gettysburg and see a reenactment, please do so. They are really entertaining and a lot of fun. Especially for a family. I plan on taking mine when I have one.

[re_nortex]

Also, If you ever get a chance to go to Gettysburg and see a reenactment, please do so. They are really entertaining and a lot of fun.

And if you're musically-inclined, Hank William's Jr. song, IF THE SOUTH WOULDA WON is also great fun (regardless of how you stand on The War of Yankee Aggression, The War of Southern Rebellion, The War Between the States, The Civil War or whatever you may call it).

[luvie]

I am pleased that you recognize that southron state of mind! You have experienced it first hand, I think!!

....and Texas IS a state of mind in itself, of course, doncha know! :D