Posted on 03/28/2011 5:59:59 PM PDT by curth
Donald Trump has released a copy of his original birth certificate…which is something every single Republican should do…and not just ones running for president.
But Trump does not understand the real issue here: Obama is hiding something written on the “name” line of the certificate.
Obama was indeed born in Hawaii in 1961…but he was adopted in Indonesia in the late-60s or early 70s.
At the time of his adoption, his name was legally changed to something like Soetorabakh Soetoro…because Indonesian naming convention is so unusual, there are many possibilities for how his adopted name could be spelled (like all the variants of Khadaffy).
Obama never petitioned to legally change his name back to Barack Hussein Obama upon his return to Hawaii.
When a child is adopted, a new birth certificate with the adopted name is issued…listing the adoptive parent as the father or mother.
So, Obama’s legal birth certificate not only shows Lolo Soetoro as his legal father…but records his legal name as Soetorobakh…NOT Barack Obama.
Because all of these names are so strange and Klingon-like to American ears, this has been a hard concept for many to grasp.
But Trump and others need to start asking what’s on the birth certificate that Obama is so desperate to hide.
Anyone out there with a way to contact Trump directly?
If he REALLY wants to stir the pot, then he needs to talk about the adoption and what name is really on Obama’s birth certificate.
THAT is what Obama has been hiding for 40 years now.
How about the embarrassment of the first so called president to ever use an alias? That’s one sick person who allowed himself to be sworn in with a nickname. He doesn’t even use his legal name? Nothing he signs or swears to is legal because it’s not his legal name.
Racist? That would be saying that black people do not have birth certificates. That would truly be *racist*.
I’m with you. The Donald didn’t just get a wild hare and jump in the pond on this. He has done his research and I’m sure he knows something or he would never have gotten involved. Trump is a billionaire he knows everybody. I’m sure he has had few really intersting conversations about Barry with highly placed people.
Point well taken, both evil and not very bright. It’s true you can be both and I think history shows a lot of leaders who were.
“I am also really sick of all these people saying Obama was born in the US; but have nothing to show that he was. They need to produce the proof or stop saying it.”
Yes, WHY do so many, especially in media and even here on FR, repeat the mantra that BHO was surely born in the U.S. Why??? He’s supplied no proof whatsoever - rather, there is mounting evidence to the contrary. Why are so many otherwise intelligent people so willing to suspend disbelief on this subject? Do they not WANT to know the truth, whatever it turns out to be?
I remember seeing a brief clip (on tv) in the latter part of ‘08 wherein his Kenyan grandmother said she was there in the room the night he was born (there). She was not seen or heard from after that, and the adoring media never brought it up.
Below are just a few interesting links (note the last one in particular):
Kenyan ambassador talking about Obama being from Kenya:
youtube clip of above interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBdUvLzdH_M
Former deputy attorney general of PA talking to Michael Savage about Obama’s Kenyan grandmother phone call:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=78931
Video of Obama uncle and audio of Kenyan grandmother translated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4FqVRWgrNw&feature=related
Don't blame it on ordinary people.
Write a letter to Speaker Boehner and ask why the House of Representatives hasn't subpoenaed all of the Hawaiian birth records so that we can "know the truth."
It would be fun if Trump could work discovery into a DNA corner where Obama, Sr., Malcom X, Frank Marshall Davis and even gramps himself have to be dug up for DNA matching.
I remember threads from back when Clinton was President on whether Bill Blythe was Clinton's real biological father or not. Like Barack Obama Sr., Bill Blythe had another wife from whom he was not divorced when he married the future President's mother.
Without the birth certificate, no one can prove to a court who Obama’s father was.
When Obama’s BC finally surfaces, decades from now, if ever, it will be too late to be used as court evidence that Obama is ineligible to the U.S. Presidency, since his supposed father was not a US citizen. If Obama’s father was never a US citizen, Obama isn’t a Natural Born Citizen of the United States, as is required to be President.
If the BC were ever made available to a court, the probable fact of Obama’s failure to be born of two US citizens would compel that court to admit Obama is inelgible. But without the birth certificate, no one can prove who Obama’s father really was to a court, even though most people accept that non-US citizen BHO Sr. was his father.
His BC, probably stolen from sealed adoption records in Hawaii, will remain secreted, unavailable to any judicial process.
At some point in time he would have had to get a new S/S number under the name of Barack Obama.
There are as many dots to be connected about Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate as there are about a Kenyan birth certificate. Probaly somethings common to both.
There are as many dots to be connected about Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate as there are about a Kenyan birth certificate. Probaly somethings common to both.
The original birth certificate is still available if he was adopted. He would have to petition a court to release it, that is how it works in Massachusetts at least, for a close family member of mine.
They are not the same. My adopted kids have two different certificates.
and in the US, to adopt, you need to terminate the father's rights (a court case).
What is probably being hid is that his mother wasn't really married (Obama pater had another wife in Kenya). So he was “illegitimate”.
But let's give her credit when credit is due: most women in those days would have aborted the kid, especially if the kid was black. That she didn't shows she had backbone, and good parents to support her. (yes, abortion was “illegal” but any college girl knew the address of the local abortionist).
...and he keeps saying that if you aren’t born here you can’t be president. The point of this whole thing, is the Natural Born Citizen requirement. Natural Born Citizen, means being born of American Citizen parents; at time of birth both parents have to be America citizens and Trump, the smartest man in the world (according to him), keeps saying the wrong thing.
What about obama’s fake SSN? What about his friendship with Larry Sinclair?
He was born here. It wasn’t physically possible for the mom to be in Kenya for the birth and in Seattle two weeks later. Read the Hollbuzz post re the adoption and name change. It makes sense and is just as damaging because of the base lying from college on
(1) Bill Blythe was definitely not the Clinton bio-pa. Indeed there is some evidence that he was already “daid” when Uncle Ray come up with the idea of marrying him off to Cousin Virginia, who come back from Louisiana with more than a banjo on her knee. Uncle Ray ran Hot Springs and could do some amazing stuff, like make sure that Bill ... at least technically ... was not a bastard, ...and at least by Arkansas rules.(Hey, my kind of guy. Strong family values.)
(2)Mr. Clinton did legally adopt Bill after Roger was born.
Bill actually has a birth certificate that says “Clinton.” Uncle Ray. Amazing guy.
I'll deliver it to the tanning salon, and if I miss him there, I know all his favorite DC watering holes. He'll cry when I hand it to him.
Damn shame there is no organized opposition to Obama.
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