[rxsid]

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

[rxsid]

Ping!

"The Jay Treaty Strongly Indicates That Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President."

[screaminsunshine]

So why the Hell are the Republicans not raising hell about it?

[phockthis]

sfl

[Diogenesis]

“My people say your Constitution, future elections, and America are now dead ---
like your rights, freedoms and grandchildren’s equities, you stupid, powerless crackers.”

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"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream.
It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same,
or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children
and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free."
President Ronald Reagan

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[FrankR]

[Brown Deer]

but it doesn’t matter because the only evidence that any judge needs is the press release of Fukino! ;-)

[Mr Rogers]

Yeah...everyone knows Obama is a loyal subject of the Queen!

[rxsid]

John Jay, President of the Continental Congress from 1778 to 1779 and, from 1789 to 1795, the first Chief Justice of the United States, leading opponent of slavery and the founder who wrote to George Washington regarding the suggestion that the POTUS be a NBC , had Vattel in his home library:
"One division [Of the library in Jay's "Bedford House"] contains the favorite authors of the Chief Justice, weighty folios of Grotius, Puffendorf, Vattel and other masters of the science of international law, standard theological and miscellaneous works and the classic authors of antiquity. Pg. 108. "

[Tex-Con-Man]

Claiming Obama is loyal to the British Crown, while at the same time calling him an anti-colonialist is going to be an impossible sell.

[Red Badger]

In order to respect the legal rights of British subjects, the US must be able to identify them.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM. WE CAN'T IDENTIFY HIM!...............

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The states vote for the president, in the Electoral College. In 2000, the legislature of the State of Florida disgraced itself by not reacting to the too-close-to-call election by taking responsibility to decide the election. I recognize that that could bite us some time in the future, but in fact the ultimate responsibility under the Constitution lies with the state legislatures.

Likewise, each state has full authority to determine who may not have its electoral votes. Full Stop.

Therefore it is entirely appropriate for each state to pass a law delineating what proof it will accept as to the citizenship qualification of a candidate for POTUS. And the case of Mr. Obama and the Jay Treaty implications illustrates that the states have legitimate reason to inquire not only as to the location of a candidate's birth, but as to the status and implications of the parent's citizenship and any provable dissociation of a candidate from US citizenship as well.

What, after all, does location citizenship matter if the candidate has renounced his citizenship and is not even a US citizen at all, notwithstanding the site of his birth.

[Don Corleone]

“The US is sovereign and not governed by foreign law so British law shouldn’t be considered as to Presidential eligibility.

Talk about a Logic 101 flunk out!

[newfreep]

Article Six of the US Constitution:

“This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”

Oh, how I wish EVERY SCOTUS judge would follow these instructions on EVERY case.

[Beckwith]

This is a very key point, what many members in the liberal media have been saying is that Obama’s eligibility is a bombshell of a story, it’ll be like Watergate, it’ll make your name, all you have to do is break this story, I mean you’re going to look at Pulitzer prizes for the rest of your life, you’ll be wealthy beyond imagination, you’ll have all the fame and glory a journalist could ever want.”

They said, you don’t understand, if this story turns out to be true, we fear it could lead to a civil war within America.” This is what they are telling me, that you’re going to have African Americans so embittered, remaining loyal to Obama, so many liberals, so embittered, loyal to Obama, but so many people in the rest of the country now feeling that there is a serious constitutional breach, that everything that he has passed, because he is unconstitutional, and doesn’t have the right legal authority, everything that he has passed is thereby illegal and unconstitutional. It will literally be the worst constitutional crisis that ever gripped this country, so they don’t want to touch this. So you have the media abdicating their responsibility to pursue the truth and hold their politicians accountable.

And that's why no one will touch the eligibility issue.

[DCmarcher-976453]

This must realy be the crux of why bo hates the brits, he knows that he is one and it eats him up. The sooner he is exposed the better. One good rep and we would be set, too bad the repubs don’t have an Allan Greyson!

[r9etb]

Poor Leo is really reaching now. Lovely that he mentions Article IX of a treaty.

Not so lovely that he neglects to mention that the stated purpose of the treaty is to clean up the loose ends of the Revolutionary War; and that Article IX can only be properly understood in that context.

Poor, poor Leo.

[Hotlanta Mike]

[K-Stater]

bump

[x]

“It is agreed that British subjects who now hold lands in the territories of the United States, and American citizens who now hold lands in the dominions of His Majesty, shall continue to hold them according to the nature and tenure of their respective estates and titles therein; and may grant, sell or devise the same to whom they please, in like manner as if they were natives and that neither they nor their heirs or assigns shall, so far as may respect the said lands and the legal remedies incident thereto, be regarded as aliens.”

And from that you get that Obama can't be President? I guess if your already convinced that he can't this will convince you more, but it looks pretty weak and tortured.

I'd have to do a lot more research on this, but maybe Obama is stateless, not allowed by Britain to settle in England, not recognized as a Kenyan citizen because he didn't opt for Kenya over Britain and the US, and not accepted as a "natural-born citizen" by you guys.

That's tongue in cheek, but sometimes I wonder, a man without a country ...

[noinfringers2]

The treaty referred to is specific as to persons ‘owning land’. How does this apply to Obama and his father? Is there a stretch of application if Obama’s father owned land under British rule?