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To: LucyT; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...
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"The Jay Treaty Strongly Indicates That Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President."

2 posted on 03/02/2011 10:16:45 AM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid; Red Steel; mojitojoe; Fantasywriter; azishot; Candor7; Hotlanta Mike
The Jay Treaty Strongly Indicates That Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President.

So what? The Gay Treaty indicates the opposite!

Stop besmirching 0h0m0llah and don't ask me for links because the documentation isn't published yet. The paperwork is shoved and sealed in the new WH social director's ass and locked up by Reggie's dead bolt!

6 posted on 03/02/2011 10:39:11 AM PST by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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THIS IS A MUST READ!

BIG Florida Freeper ping here.


21 posted on 03/02/2011 12:04:53 PM PST by seekthetruth (My Dream Ticket For 2012: "Allen West / Scott Walker")
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I just checked and the skinny socialist is still occupying the oval office. Seems as though talk is ineffective.
63 posted on 03/02/2011 4:03:26 PM PST by verity
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To: rxsid

Ok, I will say it. I love Leo Donofrio. (I am not being literal here....geez guys... LOL)


66 posted on 03/02/2011 4:15:59 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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In the “Federalist Papers”, especially # 18-22 they discuss invasions and foreign influences that were the ultimate destruction of former republic confederacies and why the current “Articles of Confederation” that was in place was completely inefficient to sustain the new Republic of the United States. The number of citizenship & naturalization laws were as vast as the number of new sovereign States. The only laws that could ever bring them all together cohesively without trampling the rights of the States was the “law of nations”. By using these laws, the framers were able to bring cohesiveness in law among all the States while protecting the sovereignty of each individual State who joined the Federal Republic.

There had to be laws that were fitting to sovereign States as that IS where the sovereignty of the nation lies. In the States & the people of those States. The laws of the Federal govt needed to follow a universal/international law because they were dealing with sovereign nation States. If they hadn’t, the US Constitution would have never been ratified.

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One only has to go back to the Declarations of Independence to find this out. It wasn’t one declaration that was made. Each State sent their own formal declaration of independence to England prior to the one signed by all the states & formalized on July 4, 1776. The 1776 declaration was the formal one that bound all 13 colonies together as a Federal Republic, standing beside each other to protect each others sovereignty. At that time, they were truly independent, sovereign nation States with completely independent governments. Each State was a sovereign Republic in its own right upon their individual declaration of independence from Great Britain. The US Constitution is basically a Treaty between the all the sovereign States and the citizens of those States. Natural law & the laws of nations are the laws that have been common to all nations & States since the dawn of time. It is why it is called the “Supreme Law of the Land”.

The July 4, 1776 Declaration of Independence was the 1st treaty between the States that “United” them, the Articles of Confederation the 2nd & the US Constitution was the 3rd. And that is why “Treaties” are “Supreme Law”.

The US Constitution is a “Treaty” between the States. And where citizenship is concerned, the ONLY universal element common to ALL Nations & States is “jus sanguinis” combined with “jus soli”.

Born in the country, of parents who are citizens.

In the eyes of our Lord God, it mattered not where one was birthed. But as Nations grew & governments were formed, civil/local laws applied and as Vattel put it:

The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens…I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country…

the place of birth produces no change in this particular, and cannot, of itself, furnish any reason for taking from a child what nature has given him; I say “of itself,” for, civil or political laws may, for particular reasons, ordain otherwise. But I suppose that the father has not entirely quitted his country in order to settle elsewhere. If he has fixed his abode in a foreign country, he is become a member of another society, at least as a perpetual inhabitant; and his children will be members of it also

Now, I remind all that Vattel also reminded all that:

For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory

And here we find the key to McCain’s eligibility & the definition of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” which is found in the 14th amendment.

Allegiance to one & ONLY ONE according to Nature & Nature's God: “ When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them”

Exodus 20:3 (3rd Commandment) You shall have no other gods before (besides) me

Matthew 6:24 & Luke 16:13 No man can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to one, and despise the other.

103 posted on 03/02/2011 10:48:03 PM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: rxsid

Have we located both editions?

“Two London editions of Emmerich de Vattel’s The Law of Nations were in circulation at this time: a 1759—;60 edition in 2 vols., and a 1760 edition in one.”


192 posted on 03/05/2011 6:29:27 AM PST by bushpilot1
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202 posted on 03/06/2011 3:27:59 AM PST by bushpilot1
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