Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article

To: rxsid
“It is agreed that British subjects who now hold lands in the territories of the United States, and American citizens who now hold lands in the dominions of His Majesty, shall continue to hold them according to the nature and tenure of their respective estates and titles therein; and may grant, sell or devise the same to whom they please, in like manner as if they were natives and that neither they nor their heirs or assigns shall, so far as may respect the said lands and the legal remedies incident thereto, be regarded as aliens.”

And from that you get that Obama can't be President? I guess if your already convinced that he can't this will convince you more, but it looks pretty weak and tortured.

I'd have to do a lot more research on this, but maybe Obama is stateless, not allowed by Britain to settle in England, not recognized as a Kenyan citizen because he didn't opt for Kenya over Britain and the US, and not accepted as a "natural-born citizen" by you guys.

That's tongue in cheek, but sometimes I wonder, a man without a country ...

60 posted on 03/02/2011 3:46:52 PM PST by x
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: x; rxsid; little jeremiah; LucyT; Red Steel; WhizCodger
“I'd have to do a lot more research on this, but maybe Obama is stateless, not allowed by Britain to settle in England, not recognized as a Kenyan citizen because he didn't opt for Kenya over Britain and the US, and not accepted as a “natural-born citizen” by you guys.”

After WWII many states modified their laws to prevent “stateless” births, IIRC, especially for births to single moms.

If Obama was born in Kenya, then whether he received US citizenship from his US citizen mom depends on whether she was legally married at the time. My research leads me to conclude she was bigamously married under US, HI, UK and Kenyan colonial laws and was thus legally single. So per the US law in effect in 1961 his mom only needed one year of US residenceto pass citizenship to Obama for a foreign birth (see below) and Obama would be a US citizen, but not eligible as NBC.

The BNA of 1948 does NOT pass UK citizenship to illegitimate children, which would presumably include children of bigamous marriages, IIRC, so if Obama's parent's marriage was bigamous and Obama was born in HI, he would have unitary US citizenship from his legally single mom.

Any claims as to whether Obama is NBC or not depend on "facts not in evidence," IMO.

Where was he born?

Who were his parents?

Where they married?

Was the marriage bigamous?

Was the marriage recognized by the UK?

Was the marriage recognized by the US?

Is unitary citizenship from a single mom on US soil NBC?

SCOTUS rulings on all of these issues (and UK rulings on some of them) would seem to be required to prove Obama is not NBC with the single exception that proof of a foreign birth hidden by Obama would be fraud and "automatically" exclude him in the court of public opinion, IMO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_nationality_law#Birth_abroad_to_one_United_States_citizen

For persons born between December 24, 1952 and November 14, 1986, a person is a U.S. citizen if all of the following are true (except if born out-of-wedlock)[7]:

1.The person's parents were married at the time of birth

2.One of the person's parents was a U.S. citizen when the person was born

3.The citizen parent lived at least ten years in the United States before the child's birth;

4.A minimum of 5 of these 10 years in the United States were after the citizen parent's 14th birthday.

For persons born out-of-wedlock (mother) if all the following apply:

1.the mother was a U.S. citizen at the time of the person’s birth and

2.the mother was physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the person’s birth.[8] (See link for those born to a U.S. father out-of-wedlock)[7]

87 posted on 03/02/2011 6:28:20 PM PST by Seizethecarp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies ]

To: x; rxsid
That's tongue in cheek, but sometimes I wonder, a man without a country ...

He could live out his days in a U.S. Naval vessel moored offshore.

95 posted on 03/02/2011 7:26:33 PM PST by thecodont
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Bloggers & Personal
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson