Posted on 02/12/2011 1:53:37 PM PST by ejdrapes
Posted by The Right Scoop on Feb 12, 2011 in Politics | Ann Coulter says that if we don’t run Chris Christie for President, then Romney will win the nomination and we’ll lose in 2012:Coulter: Run Chris Christie or we’ll lose in 2012
I thought Ann was for Romney the last time around.
Every one of these candidates needs to prove themselves in today’s environment with today’s problems. The debates are where we’ll put some of these arguments to rest.
I’m not in agreement with Ann on Christie. He said he isn’t running and I’m not sure he is quite conservative enough all around.
He is straight talking enough, though, I sure like that. But so is Sarah, and RINO Mitt can do a fair imitation of it at times but he can’t get elected even if nominated (not to mention his other faults.)
Putting my neck on the line against Ann here, I just don’t think Mitt has as much chance of being nominated as appears to be the case today. I think that is old leftover good will from previous runs that will disappear during a feisty campaign. His creepy, flip-flopping reality will come through and other people will rise to be more credible leadership possibilities.
No pro-aborts for me, either. Good thing Gov. Christie is 100% pro-life, and has a track record to prove it. In fact, his track record is better than nearly every pro-life Governor in this country. Christie nearly single-handily used the power of the Governor's office to cut off funding for planned parenthood in NJ.
Are you aware of that? Or have you been reading the lies from the "Christie = Giuliani clone" crowd? They've been repeatedly claiming he's "pro abortion" even AFTER having been PROVEN wrong. Apprently they don't want facts to get in the way of their agenda. These "conservatives" claiming Christie is a "social liberal" are as accurate as Michael Moore "documentaries"
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie Headlines Pro-Life Rally
Pro-Life Pro-Family Candidate Chris Christie Captures New Jersey Governorship
Daniels or Pawlenty. But I’m not sure that either of them has a chance in heck of beating Obama.
Judging from your screen name, I was expecting you to champion Huckabee. I put him at the same level as Romney on my list. Too liberal, too phony.
I concur.
...perhaps Ann has a thing for fat guys. Who knows?! LOL
> Christie is pro-life.
Unequivocably?
And NJ elected him?
Hard to believe, but I’ll take your word for it.
These are my non-negotiables in a candidate.
* strongly pro-life
* against identiy politics and will work to eliminate favoritism of any kind.
* pro-traditional marriage
. no “marriage” for gays, polygamists, polyamorists, etc
* fiscal conservative
* close/patrol the borders!
* pro-Israel - Bible teaches that anti-Israel countries fare poorly
* will sign repeal of obama-care
These are negotiable, to some degree
* some degree of amnesty, but only after the borders are closed
Hmmm ... after reviewing the above list, I’m more likely to write-in a candidate than vote for any of the current “front-runners”.
LOL indeed!
I am not aware of Christie’s pro-life policies.
I live in New Hampster and don’t have a TV. I get most, if not all, of my news from this forum, the car radio, and word-of-mouth.
So, I thank you for the information, and I trust that you are truthful, or you would be promptly called to task by the astute observers in this forum.
But isn't he a good governor for the Northeast? /sarc
I'm sick and tired of that crap. Maybe he's the greatest administrator NJ ever had. But that doesn't make him a winner or a nominee in my book. If he's pro-gay-marriage, pro-abortion, pro-amnesty, and anti-2d-amendment, WTF is Ann thinking? Does she simply dislike Romney and distrust Palin that much? I mean, I would never vote for Rudy McRomney and I can't vote for Palin (yet), but a clear McCain II would never be my choice over an unknown like Palin. I'd rather gamble my vote on a possible loser than vote KNOWING I've got a loser pick.
Of course, that's what the choice has been in every election since Reagan, and the RNC has gambled conservatives will be suckered every time. Up to 2010, that has been a pretty good gamble. But I know I'm not alone in saying I'll "waste my vote" on a "loony" Libertarian or "crazy" Constitution Party nominee before I REALLY waste my vote on a might-be-a-Constitutionalist GOP nominee again.
I already posted the following once before, but it's a little interesting.
One of my closest friend's mother remarried when we were in our early twenties. My friend was just out of the Army and living at home. The house had a pool and a bar and was a great place to hang out, so that's what we did.
His mother's new husband, Jim, was a great guy. Friendly as hell and funny. We were broke young guys and used to drink up all his booze, and he just laughed and kept replacing it. He would even ask us if we had any special requests when he was restocking. Then he would sit around with us and tell us old stories.
I was really bummed to hear Jim died a few years ago. And just last month I found out that Jim is Chris Christie's Uncle Jim Christie. Jim was Christie's father's brother.
Not really relevant to much, except that I knew Christie's uncle and he was a hell of a nice guy. So my buddy's mother is Christie's "Aunt Joanne". If he gets elected, maybe I can use this weak connection to snag an inaugeration ticket.
..and a gun grabber. His statements of "support" on the 2nd Amendment are squirrely, at best.
Why would any conservative even consider backing this guy?
Christie appears to be against the right to keep and bear arms. If so, he doesn’t understand an essential component of liberty and thus could never get my vote.
We have already lived with Bush 43 saying he would sign an extension of the Assault Weapons Ban if Congress would pass it, and I have no intention of getting that close to having my RKBA eroded again.
I’m not sure what Coulter means when she says, “...have to run Chris Christie”
No Ann, there is nothing stopping Christie from running...he is free to do so.
But, he has to run himself.
Coulter has never married and lives in NYC. Think Peggy Noonan, only in slow motion.
Please don't spread falsehoods. This is from a few weeks ago:
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie Headlines Pro-Life Rally
If you're too lazy to click on the link, here's a bit from the article at LifeNews.com
“I stand with you,” on opposing abortion, the governor told the crowd, and “with each and every one of those precious human lives.”“What we need to do each and every day is to live our lives in a way that encourages everyone to understand why this cause is so important,” Christie said, according to the Asbury Park Press. ”To show that we respect the life of every human being, and that every human being is one of God’s creatures and deserves the love and respect that God gives to all us.”
The following is older (from Nov 2009) but highlights another of your lies:
For gay couples in New Jersey, and the millions of people who want to see them achieve full equality under the law, the moment has finally arrived.Within the next several weeks, probably in early December, the Legislature will take up the question of gay marriage.
This will be high political drama. Because while most Democrats support marriage equality, they do not have nearly enough votes to pass it on their own. They need Republican support if the measure is to have any chance.
And that means Chris Christie, the Republican governor-elect, is about to make his first really important decision.
He opposes gay marriage and said during the campaign he would use his veto power as governor to block it.
Well, Ann if you want to sell us out; don’t include me. I am sick and tired of these people telling us who is good and who is not. All they accomplish is muddying the waters which I am not sure if they actually intend to do.
I think the NJ Governor is fine for what he is doing; but he is for amnesty which is to say he is keeping us in debt further. He put a Muslim judge up which is to say he is for global bs. Now there’s a guy I would not vote for. Our country would still be destroyed. You got to go for the whole enchilada, Gov or nothing at all. If you don’t like our values; hopefully you won’t be elected. Trying to con the people is not a good idea. I don’t want a RINO who will sell us out in the end and it seems this what these people are doing.
I come from a long line of blonds, blondes, and redheads. One of my brothers darned near got expelled from high school (back in the '60s) because it was thought he was bleaching his hair. He was a surfer -- it was the SUN that was bleaching his hair. My redheaded mom actually had to go and vouch for him. And even now, at age 60, the sun still bleaches it to a yellow goldfoil hue in the summer (he's outdoors a lot) -- kind of like Peter O'Toole's hair in "Lawrence of Arabia."
Yes, there ARE such things as natural blondes. I'm pretty sure Coulter is one. Actually, I think she's more of a strawberry blonde.
In my list of non-negotiables, I forgot to mention
* pro-RKBA
This is SECOND In my list, with pro-life being first.
By my reckoning, the two go together.
OK. I’ve looked around. He opposes gay marriage but supports gay partnerships. He is said to have favored gay marriage in the past, but changed his stance.
And he does appear to be pro-life:
I don't doubt your sincerity, Westbrook.
The problem is that there are a number of NJ freepers with an axe to grind against Christie, and they seem intent on spreading the "Christie's pro-abortion" lie on every thread that pops up about him. Basically, during the NJ primary, they argued he would be a "Giuliani clone" and "another Christine Todd Whitman". They've been proven wrong ever since he took office, so after laying low for a while, they've now resorted to flat out lying and claiming he's "pro-abortion" and "pro-gay marriage" to "prove" their argument that he's "not a social conservative".
It's the old Saul Alinsky tactic -- if you repeat a lie long enough, it becomes fact. They've convinced a number of freepers who don't know any better. We have to keep refutting every thread, but they won't stop with their "Christie's a social liberal" crap no matter how solidly he governs. I have nothing but contempt for those freepers. Knowingly lying about someone's politics in order to destroy him is about as low as it gets.
Dead: >> There are reasons to complain about Christie, but anybody who calls him pro-abortion is either extremely misinformed or openly lying. <<
I'm inclined to believe the latter. Yes, there are some freepers who unintentionally continue to pass on false information they heard from others ("Is it true he's pro-choice?"), but the freepers who routinely visit these threads and claim to be "experts" on Chris Christie's career and the NJ freepers who continue to "warn" everyone that "he's not a social conservative" are lying through their teeth - and they know it.
Christie's been Governor over a year now and he's been rock solid for the pro-life and pro-family cause, not to mention a very devout Catholic family man. Yet on EVERY new thread about the guy, anti-Christie trolls IMMEDIATELY show up to "inform" people about how "socially liberal" he is, and that "he's pro-abortion and pro-gay marriage, you know"
They don't want to get into a debate with anyone about how he's "socially liberal" because their "facts" can be proven wrong as soon as anyone bothers to research his record. Rather, they'll change the subject, grasp at straws, and start yapping that he's "really" a RINO for other reasons (I've had several anti-Christie trolls insist his position on abortion didn't matter to them, after they had spent hours trying to sell people on the lie that he's pro-abortion). In reality, they just hope they can con conservatives into thinking he's a Barney Frank clone and hope nobody knowledgeable will call them on it.
I can't think of a single example of a politician who was rumored to be a RINO during the primary and then governed as a conservative get these kinds of attacks. Alot of freepers were worried Sen. John Barrasso would turn out to be a pro-abortion RINO. Instead, he turned out to be a pretty decent guy. You won't see some freepers "accidentally" claims "he's pro-abortion" on every thread about Wyoming's Senator. Likewise, here in Illinois, alot of conservatives were worried Joe Walsh wasn't good on social issues and was just saying stuff to get elected. He proved otherwise almost immediately after taking office, and no one "accidentally" reports he's pro-abortion anymore. And he's only been there a month.
These lies about Christie have become very effective, like the left convincing most of the public that Sarah Palin can't count and said she could see Russia for her house, and so on. I think we need to step up the plate against the trolls and provide highlighted links on EVERY Christie thread verifying he has an excellent pro-life and pro-family record. I don't think the anti-Christie "conservatives" will be satisfied until he's hounded out of office and a marxist Democrat is back in power in NJ. Christie's the most conservative governor NJ has had in 80 years and they can't stand him and will say anything to turn people against him. Apparently the mindset is that if their boy wasn't the GOP nominee, then no Republican should have it.
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