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WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST
Reaganite Republican ^
| January 26, 2011
| Reaganite Republican
Posted on 01/26/2011 5:57:29 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
Hawai'i election official's sworn affadavit:
"No Obama birth certificate exists"
ALL Americans who support our nation's Constitution and election laws must now ask: WHERE IS IT? As the Obama birth certificate controversy drags-on, any unbiased observer could tell you that events are strengthening the birthers' case by the day... not the other way around.
Oczam's razor theory dictates that if they can't find it... there must not be one. This would also provide the most viable explanation for why Obama has spent almost $2M fighting the claims in court. And to since it's a principle requirement for presidential eligibility... would someone please tell me WHY the burden of proof is on us?
How'd this guy even get a passport without a long-form birth certificate, anyway...
"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate."
As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government."
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Tim Adams |
Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health. "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady."
Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961."
"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."
The debate has been recently been amplified by Hawaii's weird hippy Governor Neil Abercrombie -a far-Left freak who was previously a member of the US House Progressive Caucus and a personal friend and college classmate of both of Obama's parents. Abercrombie made an ill-advised claim during his 2010 gubernatorial campaign that he would soon put a rest to all this, stating he was on a "mission" to "quell" the birthers- as the polemic has "implications for 2012 that we simply cannot have."
State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individuals birth documentation without the persons consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.
There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document, said Dela Cruz.
Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.
Conspirators! That's rich- but condescension and slander coming from nervous Dems does little to re-assure thinking persons that this man is acutally qualified to be US President: on the contrary, this defensive, diversionary behavior speaks volumes. Clearly those propping up this Trojan Horse of a president have nothing left but mocking the inquisitors- but as Margaret Thatcher once said: "... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." And indeed they do not-
Delving a little farther back, Obama even admitted himself that he wasn't qualified for the presidency in the 2004 Keyes-Obama Senate campaign debate, but the video of this was scrubbed from YouTube, according to Good Ole Boy at RealAmericanPolitics.
Keyes caught him off guard... and Obama spilled:
I watched the entire first and second debates. I distinctly remember that I had never heard of Obama; my interest was in seeing what Keyes said about the pro-life issue and school vouchers.
At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, You are not even a natural born citizen!
To which Obama immediately replied, So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.
At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obamas response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator...
Today... with even Chris Matthews saying "why not just put it out?"- I unapologetically throw my hat in with the birthers... time to cough it up or step-down, Barry. Even is some obscure court ruling keeps Obama in office... this man must not be allowed to run for re-election in 2012.
And when the day comes when we remove this tumor from the neck of the American eagle... Obama and his accomplices must be punished harshly for not just violation of oath, but the myriad crimes committed in covering-up lack of qualification for US president, up to and including perjury. And that means the entire Obama campaign team, lawyers, and most of the DNC... you're all going to pay dearly for this one.
Get on the stick, GOP congressman...
where's the subpoenas?
The survival of American democracy demands justice- and so do we.
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KEYWORDS: abercrombie; barry; birthcertificate; birthers; certificate; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama; soetoro
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To: butterdezillion
The HDOH claims they cant give any information about WHAT birth index their index data for Obama is from. Not even whether it was from the Delayed Birth Certificate, Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, or pending index. It can't be any of the latter because we know his birth was registered when he was 4 days old. Certificates of Hawaiian Birth were only issued to people who hadn't had their births registered by age 1. Delayed Birth Certificaes were only issued to people whose births were registered 30 days or more after the fact. And finally, there is no such thing as a "pending" index.
That leaves only one possibility...Obama must have a standard BC and the index entry is for a standard BC.
To: Helotes
His name is on the graduation program at Columbia. The university verified that he did, in fact, obtain a degree there. There is an opinion piece by him in the student newspaper from the time he was attending. Occidental also verified his dates of attendance. Classmates from both schools have confirmed they knew him as students.
There's no way he would have been allowed to take the bar exam or teach law school classes without proving he had a law degree.
You're really searching for a coverup where none exists.
To: curiosity
That is a good possibility.
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posted on
01/26/2011 10:41:45 AM PST
by
Dante3
To: curiosity
Let me understand your position ... you say they are both telling the truth, so that means there was an original birth certificate on file at HI State Dept of Health in late July 2009, but it’s not there in early January, 2011?
Is the HI State Dept of Health that sloppy? Vital records, appropriately named, are critical and a major responsibility of the state agencies nationwide that are entrusted with them. How could they possibly have lost a 50 year old record in 1.5 years’ time? That is incredible incompetence, and heads should roll.
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posted on
01/26/2011 10:56:04 AM PST
by
EDINVA
To: curiosity
Let me understand your position ... you say they are both telling the truth, so that means there was an original birth certificate on file at HI State Dept of Health in late July 2009, but it’s not there in early January, 2011?
Is the HI State Dept of Health that sloppy? Vital records, appropriately named, are critical and a major responsibility of the state agencies nationwide that are entrusted with them. How could they possibly have lost a 50 year old record in 1.5 years’ time? That is incredible incompetence, and heads should roll.
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posted on
01/26/2011 10:56:10 AM PST
by
EDINVA
To: butterdezillion
Butter.....have you read this?
Questions for Speaker Boehner
Do you know that the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 requires that:
All employees, citizens and noncitizens, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States must complete a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification.
Is there any exception made in that law for any occupation, including President?
Is Obama an employee, hired after November 6, 1986 and working in the United States?
Do you know whether or not Obama is in compliance with current Immigration law? Do you know whether or not Obama has completed a Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, and if so, what documents he used as proof of his employment eligibility?
Do you realize that the Form I-9 is very specific about what documents are acceptable?
To: Dryman
FREE THE LONG FORM!
You may have to put that in Swahili too....;)
To: EDINVA
Let me understand your position ... you say they are both telling the truth, so that means there was an original birth certificate on file at HI State Dept of Health in late July 2009, but its not there in early January, 2011? It was there then, and it's there now. What makes you think it isn't?
To: curiosity
Granny filed a birth record for Barry in Hawaii with no documentation because her wayward daughter was off in Kenya squeezing the little demon seed out. Granny was hoping Stanely-ann would return to Hawaii with further legal documentation to establish Barry as a US citizen. She never did. Probably never cared.
Thats why there was index data for Obama from the HDOH. A note in Granny Toots hand-writing saying, Her daughter gave birth to a son, Barack Hussein Obama II. Further documents to come. Stop.
If Stanely Ann gave birth in a hospital in the states, Granny Toots would have been spared the trouble. Little Barry would legally be on file as a citizen in some state.
This is the only thing Abercrombie found. What fried Abercrombies 3 remaining braincells is the discovery of an amendment that included his OWN House Resolution 593 declaring Barack Obama Born in Hawaii. - The Sum total of Obamas vital records.
Stanely Ann, if she gave birth in a hospital overseas, never procured any legal documentation for Barry. She didnt care....She hated Sr. and hated the fact that Barry reminded her of him.
From everything Ive read about S. Ann she was a real abusive pyschopathic bitch. Which is why she dumped Barry on her parents while she trolloped around.
Which brings us full circle.....Hes our first illegal alien ‘President’
Curosity killed the cat by boning it to death.
To: curiosity
We don’t know anything.
The claim that the HDOH had any documents as of Aug 8, 1961 is from an online image that the HDOH has already indirectly confirmed in 2 different ways as a forgery.
When Leo Donofrio made a request for documents they had used to pub Aug 8, 1961 on the COLB (assuming it to be genuine) he received conflicting responses, with the latest response unclear on whether it was a Glomarized response. I asked the OIP to clarify what kind of language would make up a Glomarized response and they refused to answer. As I read it, it looks like a Glomarized response.
But even if it wasn’t a Glomarized response and they actually had records in their office before Aug 9, 1961, that still doesn’t say WHAT records they had then.
And if the HDOH has everything they seem to be saying they have, then why is Abercrombie having so many troubles coming up with anything? A written note in the archives? Why would there be a written note in the archives? Why would there NOT be a birth certificate in the HDOH office - if everything the HDOH and Fukino have said thus far are taken at face value?
To: curiosity
Because Abercrombie said there is a recording of Obama’s birth, it’s actually written down, it’s in the archives...
Why would anything be in the archives? The place it’s supposed to be, if it exists, is in the HDOH office. Why didn’t Abercrombie say it was in the HDOH office right where Fukino had looked when she saw it?
To: TheCipher
Thanks for the link. If anyone has anything from Harvard or Columbia, please share with us.
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posted on
01/26/2011 11:29:09 AM PST
by
DrDude
To: butterdezillion
Because Abercrombie said there is a recording of Obamas birth, its actually written down, its in the archives... What makes you think he's not referring to an original birth certificate? A BC is a record, and it contains information that is written down.
Why would anything be in the archives?
Because the word "archives," in the vernacular, is a generic term referring to a place where old documents, such as a BC from 1961, are stored.
To: butterdezillion
There is already a transaction log for Obamas passport records that we know has been illegally accessed at least 3 times - which was allowable because somebody high up in John Brennans company specifically disabled the security protocols just during the times that those 3 breaches happened. John Brennan was immediately appointed as National Security Chief after the election. The investigation of those breaches, under the watchful eye of Joe Biden (who Obama offered a VP job) has been heavily redacted and Condi Rice has said there are NOT assurances that the records are accurate. And didn't a witness lose his life over it?
Wow, it looks like Obama DID create jobs! Great jobs! For everyone who helped him cover up his secrets.
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posted on
01/26/2011 11:41:41 AM PST
by
Yaelle
To: curiosity
Abercrombie purportedly told a (long time) friend that there’s no there there. Thereafter, the AG announced that because of privacy laws, the actual birth certificate could not be released. There are “notes” in the “archives.”
We can question ‘friends’ and online postings, but that can be said also of the COLB posted by the Obama campaign.
Producing a birth certificate is no big deal, and not too much to ask of any individual who wishes to serve as President of the United States, Commander in Chief of its Armed Forces, occupant of the Oval Office and White House, and primary passenger on Air Force One and Marine One. That position, its perks and security, costs the U.S. taxpayers in the billions of dollars and authorizes the holder to send our sons and daughters into harm’s way. We have a right to know that the office holder is eligible.
I, for one don’t even believe the birth certificate alone establishes eligibility. However, it is not “birthers” who are dragging this whole issue out, it’s the individual who has barred everyone, including long time family friend Abercrombie, from releasing his birth certificate and all records of his past history.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvrb7YqdvxE
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110125/pl_dailycaller/friendsayshawaiigovneilabercrombietoldhimthereisnoobamabirthcertificate_1
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/01/friend_says_abercrombie_to_him.html
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posted on
01/26/2011 11:42:54 AM PST
by
EDINVA
To: Conan the Conservative
Before we get over excited, this guy is just an election official, not an official from the Office of Records.
The Governor of Hawaii also says it doesn't exist.
The fact that he has sworn that someone told him something is not proof.
The fact that 0bama posted a phony BC is not proof that he is a natural born citizen.
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posted on
01/26/2011 11:45:06 AM PST
by
Brown Deer
(Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
To: TheCipher
The poems mentioned that Obama had published in the Oxy journal include the one about “Pops,” with its gay sexual references.
What we would like to know, Occidental, is whether or not our President applied to your school as an American!
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posted on
01/26/2011 11:49:17 AM PST
by
Yaelle
To: EDINVA; curiosity
However, it is not birthers who are dragging this whole issue out, its the individual who has barred everyone, including long time family friend Abercrombie, from releasing his birth certificate and all records of his past history. Yes. It is now obvious that A) there is no Hawaiian long form original BC and B) Obama knew this all along, and has been "playing" the American people.
He has not proven his eligibility, and Nancy Pelosi and others have had to go on the line and perjure themselves for him.
If you have not been proven eligible for the highest office of the land, you are INELIGIBLE.
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posted on
01/26/2011 11:52:46 AM PST
by
Yaelle
To: Brown Deer
“The Governor of Hawaii also says it doesn’t exist.”
Did you hear the Governor himself say that? I heard him say that he couldn’t find it, not that it didn’t exist. I don’t put much faith in 3rd party reports about what someone says.
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posted on
01/26/2011 12:10:03 PM PST
by
Conan the Conservative
(Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
To: Conan the Conservative
I put a lot more faith in reputable 3rd party reports coming from close friends, than in anything that comes from zero.
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posted on
01/26/2011 12:22:23 PM PST
by
Brown Deer
(Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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