Posted on 01/13/2011 10:16:28 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
I forgot.
How about the "birth certificates" he posted. Do you believe they (not "it," BTW) are real, or do you believe they help perpetrate a fraud?
ML/NJ
What did NS do to get himself banned?
Ok, but that doesn't really help me with exactly what I want to know. Is the reason these organizations don't take up this issue because they don't believe it's unconstitutional or because they believe Obama was born in Hawaii?
For instance, are they a party to some of the legislation being introduced in states to require certification of qualification to run as president?
My mother has a birth story for each child.
My story, I was born in the hallway of the Hospital. Never made it to the Delivery room. I almost popped out in the elevator. No Doctor actually “delivered” me. He just cut the cord and signed the papers.
My Brother, it was a Death defying race in the snow to the hospital... and so on...
Obama has no American birth narrative. None. Just a Grandmother in Kenya who says he was born there.
“They ‘get it’, they are just on the other team.”
The other team which includes, I might add, in addition to the usual suspects in the legal establishment, politics, the media, academia, etc. also the majority of the general public and most all popular conservative opinion-makers.
Moreover of my last post, that liberal who wrote the NBC section in the Heritage book is James C. Ho.
Here is Ho lamenting about the NBC clause.
"President Schwarzenegger - Or At Least Hughes? "
http://www.greenbag.org/v7n2/v7n2_ex_ante_ho.pdf
He's is a liberal Moonbat.
More afraid of Alinsky BS tactics. So they are moot on the Obama issue. But they know full well Obama is not an NBC regardless where he was born.
LOL.
You think you’re fooling anyone?
If you actually think that, you are dead wrong.
(I think you mean 2013.)
Who says there have to be elections in 2012?
ML/NJ
well I mean, if he wanted all this privacy .. why write such books describing every sordid detail even down to yellow stains on his and his fathers underwear? I mean camon, all we want to see is his school records, not his underwear.
Why was he so open then, but now it is all about privacy?
Because it was all BS is why.
I bet that he portrayed himself as a foreigner to get student aid in college. How would that have looked as him being a natural born citizen.
The hell with the birth certificate. I want college records. I want his psychiatric history.
Prove to me that those people are frauds and I may actively and publicly dismiss them. As it is, I have no way of knowing for sure whether they are or aren’t so I mostly just concentrate on what I can verify for myself and let them do their business.
Contrary to what you seem to think, there is a LOT of distrust between different people involved in the research, for various reasons.
I don’t like to say things one way or another until I’m pretty confident of the claim I’m making. I know what it feels like to lose somebody’s trust and not be able to prove your innocence just because somebody else wasn’t there to see you get the letter in the mail and open the envelope, etc. So I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, like I would want them to do with me personally.
But I scrutinize their claims closely, just as I hope they scrutinize mine. I have been wrong at different times and have been thankful for the people who helped me see that. I don’t want false understanding; I want to know the truth, so it makes sense of everything I see.
They haven’t read my tagline.
NS was baited into a thread posted by JR where the poster who laid the bait knew NS would stumble and bumble his way - that he could not keep his liberal-DU mouth shut. So goodbye NS.
“Some shot their wad and although still on FR avoid these threads, having been humiliated and pulverized too many times for their delicate sensibilities.”
LOL. People love to live in their little bubbles. It couldn’t possibly be that the issue isn’t as interesting to them. It couldn’t be that you’re as impervious to argument as are, say, the truthers. Or that continuing to post on these threads as a dissenter is about as fulfilling as trying to empty the ocean with a thimble.
No, you must be strong, and, better yet, right. They must be weak and wrong. Yes, as weak as their arguments, for as we all know those who are in the right always carry the day (especially on the perfectly rational internet). Weaklings who, nonetheless, have the power to endlessly annoy you with their rudeness, and are experts at ganging up and ambushing. Unfairly, somehow. Though apparently it’s their duty to either be here arguing or admit ultimate defeat.
Except that you don’t want them here anyway, sticking their noses in arguments where they don’t belong. Birther threadsa are for birthers. Don’t they know that?
At the core of the failure to defend the Constitution is that during its January 2009 joint session the Congress ignored its longstanding and carefully worded statute that controls the order of the joint session and provides the steps to be taken to prohibit an ineligible president elect from office.
The new Congress, which is yet looking for their chairs, may not be as timid or compromised as the prior and it may indeed proactively act on the issue.
Those on the right have completely wimped out
And will likely continue to wimp out until they feel the heat.
An UPDATED and REINFORCED bill needs to be passed
You are on the right track, Signman. A number of states are attempting something like you propose, see the essence of the simple two page Texas bill below. Unfortunately, no state that I have found yet is proposing a two citizen parent provision consistent with the NBC requirement; however, I just commenced looking.
By:Berman H.B.ANo.A295
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to certification for placement on the ballot of candidates for president or vice-president of the United States.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTIONA1.Section 192.033, Election Code, is amended by amending Subsection (a) and adding Subsection (d) to read as follows:
(a)Except as provided by Subsection (c) or (d), the secretary of state shall certify in writing for placement on the general election ballot the names of the candidates for president and vice-president who are entitled to have their names placed on the ballot.
(d)The secretary of state may not certify the name of a candidate for president or vice-president unless the candidate has presented the candidate s original birth certificate indicating that the person is a natural-born United States citizen.
SECTION2.This Act takes effect September 1, 2011.
He didn't know squat about Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression either!
ML/NJ
I forgot.
How about the “birth certificates” he posted. Do you believe they (not “it,” BTW) are real, or do you believe they help perpetrate a fraud?
ML/NJ
The state of Hawaii has stood by the COLBs and no charge of fraud has even been raised by any prosecuting attorney in the nation.
Sworn Testimony of the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health before the Hawaii Senate’s Committee on the Judiciary and Government Operations, February 23, 2010:
“For more than a year now, the Department of Health has continued to receive approximately 50 e-mail inquiries per month seeking access to President Barack Obama’s birth certificate in spite of the fact that President Obama HAS POSTED A COPY OF THE CERTIFICATE ON HIS FORMER CAMPAIGN WEBSITE.”
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/Testimony/SB2937_TESTIMONY_JGO_02-23-10_LATE.pdf
When prosecuting attorneys are made aware of that statement, they obviously have backed off.
I think something happened to John McCain on Sept 24, 2008, sometime between 8am and 2pm. I think it may be the same thing that happened to GW Bush on Sept 24, 2008 - that all of a sudden, after a week of totally staying out of the picture, he needed to give a speech to the country telling us that the world as we know it would end if we didn’t pass TARP.
It was the day after Couric’s hit-piece on Palin. Obama contacted John McCain on that morning and McCain responded at 2:30pm saying that he would cooperate with Obama on a statement about the need to address the financial situation together. Immediately after calling Obama, McCain went on TV to announce that he was suspending his campaign and wanted the debate that was scheduled for 2 days later to be postponed.
I think that was the day some really bad thuggery happened.
Gotta go pick up my son from spelling practice.
Normal people on FR just avoid topics that hold no interest for them or that they consider dead ends. Just like many don’t hang out on the Religion Forum, or look at “American Idol” threads, gun threads, and so on. People have lives, limited time, and so on, and generally read and post only on threads that interest them.
It is therefore quite - odd - that people who claim to have no interest in 0h0m0’s eligibility or claim to think it’s a dead end still insist on posting nonsense on these threads.
Very odd.
They get it, they are just on the other team.
Correct. Same as many think liberals/communists/progressives/name du jour, are dumb, "don't get it, scared of handling or owning guns, soft and all out homosexual weaklings
Au contraire, my FRiend. They know EXACTLY what they're doing saying with extreme deception.
As I said many times on these threads, forget about the NBC for a minute, where are his education records? Any of his defenders ready to explain why aren't the records available. Once the records are available and forensically checked, this AA bastard is peeled like a rotten onion and the myth of the brilliant messiah who has a negative IQ and passed with no GBAs to write home about, will COLLAPSE even in the eyes of his elite communist worshipers. Simply put, 0h0m0 won't be "smart" enough to fit in the communist regime class.
As an aside, the "American" 0b0z0 must have lied in his application forms and that will bring us to the question of his eligibility.
All his hidden records should be the main questions on these threads to challenge his defenders to tell us why aren't they interested as the rest of half the population that cares to find out who is this ghost of a POTUS?
Your friendly ghoster, any after-ghosters want to find out who their president really is?
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