Remember, Remember the 5th of November ...

smithsk.blogspot.com ^ | November 2, 2010 | S K Smith

[NEWwoman]

REMEMBER, REMEMBER THE FIFTH OF NOVEMBER

Remember, remember the fifth of November Gunpowder, treason and plot I see no reason why gunpowder treason Should ever be forgot ....

(Traditional English Rhyme - 17th Century)

Okay. What is this all about?

For starters -

"Remember Remember" refers to Guy Fawkes from 17th century English history. On the night of November 4, 1605, Guy Fawkes was caught in the cellars of the Houses of Parliament with several dozen barrels of gunpowder. If this Gunpowder Plot had succeeded, King James I could have been assassinated as well as many in the House of Lords as Parliament would have been reduced to rubble during its opening session on November 5th.

By an Act of Parliament, November 5th - "Firework Night" - was designated by King James I as a day of thanksgiving for "the joyful day of deliverance."

.... got to webpage to get link to video clip and more

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As for the religious intolerance that had created a "Guy Fawkes," America has learned a few things from the mistakes of mother England - such as adopting the First Amendment to guarantee Freedom of Religion and a Constitution to discourage a totalitarian regime from taking over.

If there are any fireworks this 5th of November - or any other time, may they be in peaceful celebration!

[NEWwoman]

A penny for the "Guy?"

[BelegStrongbow]

V for Vendetta

[Darkwolf377]

Please, no, the DUmmies used this a couple of years ago. Let’s not descend to their “street theater” shennanigans.

[NEWwoman]

There is a link to youtube of the terrific last scene of the movie on the blog post: http://smithsk.blogspot.com/2010/11/remember-remember-5th-of-november.html

[NEWwoman]

Let’s not descend to their “street theater” shennanigans.

Agreed.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

V for Vendetta

"Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a bygone vexation stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin vanguarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. The only verdict is vengeance, a vendetta held as a votive not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose. So let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me V."

"Are you like, a crazy person?"

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

As for the religious intolerance that had created a "Guy Fawkes," America has learned a few things from the mistakes of mother England

Notice the plan was to blow up the House of Lords and the King, not the House of Commons? This wasn't about religion, it was a direct precursor of the English Civil War, which resulted in the "cruel necessity" of the beheading of Charles I and the first modern dictatorship -- a chain of events which also begot The Revolution, here in America.

[Little Bill]

“Guy Fawkes Day”, let’s burn a Democrat.

[NEWwoman]

* Notice the plan was to blow up the House of Lords and the King, not the House of Commons? This wasn’t about religion *

I got that the target was the House of Lords and King James, but also some history sources indicate that the Catholics had felt quite oppressed, which figured into the plot.

[Beowulf9]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8gIzkCHvK4

Remember when you were young?
How the hero was never hung
Always got away
Remember how the man
Used to leave you empty handed?
Always, always let you down
If you ever change your mind
About leaving it all behind
Remember, remember, today

And don’t feel sorry
The way it’s gone
And don’t you worry
‘Bout what you’ve done

Just remember when you were small
How people seemed so tall
Always had their way
Do you remember your Ma and Pa
Just wishing for movie stardom
Always, always playing a part
If you ever feel so sad
And the whole world is driving you mad
Remember, remember, today

And don’t feel sorry
‘Bout the way it’s gone
And don’t you worry
‘Bout what you’ve done

No, no, remember, remember
The fifth of November

~John Lennon

[NEWwoman]

thanks for sharing the poem and the link ... I bookmarked it.

[SunkenCiv]

The plotters were generally accused of Catholic leanings, yes; James I was however not the police state autocrat that Elizabeth had been, and almost paid for that with his life. I’ve also seen it argued that Henry VIII, by literally placing himself at the head of the (new) national church, undermined the authority of the monarchy itself by showing the temporal nature of all human institutions.