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Juan Williams and President Obama’s grandmother
Big Bureaucracy ^ | October 21st, 2010 | Ellie Velinska

Posted on 10/21/2010 10:13:12 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy

'Mom, look: ghosts!' - screamed my little boy when he was four on a playground pointing at few mothers dressed in traditional Islamic outfits.

I guess he will never work for the National Public Radio. NPR fired Juan Williams, liberal journalist and commentator, over the following remark made on O’Reilly Factor:

'I mean, look, Bill, I'm not a bigot. You know the kind of books I've written about the civil rights movement in this country, but when I get on a plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they're identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous'.
The NPR shouldn’t have disowned Juan Williams whose remark fell into the category of President Obama’s grandmother:
'I can no more disown him [Rev. Wright] than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.

These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.'

We should be able to discuss honestly our struggles with stereotypes without being afraid of losing our job. If we keep hiding the truth the solutions for our problems will be based on lies and most likely will not work.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: billoreilly; fired; juanwilliams; mikehuckabee; myblog; npr; obamasgrandmother
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To: Big Bureaucracy
If you're in favor of allowing homosexuals to serve openly in the military then you are at odds with the owner of FreeRepublic.

There is still no evidence homosexuals are born with their same-sex attraction. What the evidence tells us is environment is a key factor in determining same-sex attraction. We also see a growing list of ex-homosexuals.

So as I see it, if you're in favor of allowing military service based on same-sex behavior or attraction, you're either not thinking clearly or unaware of the bigger picture.

81 posted on 10/21/2010 2:21:34 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: manc

I was also sports reporter. I covered box, wrestling (Olympic) etc.
Are you a fan of Manchester and Berbatov?


82 posted on 10/21/2010 2:22:37 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Bulgaria’s hero what do you think about the person?


83 posted on 10/21/2010 2:23:19 PM PDT by manc (Homosexuality is a mental disorder and should not be encouraged by anyone.)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

do you think homosexuals should serve in the American military?

Hell it’;s a yes or no answer


84 posted on 10/21/2010 2:25:07 PM PDT by manc (Homosexuality is a mental disorder and should not be encouraged by anyone.)
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To: Big Bureaucracy
homosexuals have a mental problem, therefore they should not be given a gun plus the military is an institution which is very different to civvy life. добър нощ
85 posted on 10/21/2010 2:27:17 PM PDT by manc (Homosexuality is a mental disorder and should not be encouraged by anyone.)
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To: manc

I have a picture of him I took myself when I visited the country 3 years ago - he was not in Manchester yet. I had a pass for the VIP tunnel for the BG national team game so I have my own photo of him. He is a bit crazy, but a good player. Stoichkov is my hero and I like CSKA not Levski. I was a Botev Plovdiv fan.


86 posted on 10/21/2010 2:27:24 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: manc
It is a wrong way to say Good night. The right way is Лека Нощ
87 posted on 10/21/2010 2:29:44 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy

Are you going to respond to post 78?


88 posted on 10/21/2010 2:42:07 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Sorry, I missed #78

‘You keep saying if they are screened and able to serve, they should. They do not belong in the military.’

If the military screens them and deems them able to serve - fine with me. If the military screens them and deems them not able to serve - fine with me. I will not second guess the military.

Everybody should be able to apply - and be denied or approved.

‘How do you think they served when they were banned? THEY LIED.’

Exactly. The DADT restricts military to ask questions about that kind of behavior - this encourages lies and dishonesty and makes things worse.


89 posted on 10/21/2010 4:27:58 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy
If the military screens them and deems them able to serve - fine with me.

It isn't fine. These people have an emotional and mental illness.

Everybody should be able to apply - and be denied or approved.

Military service is a PRIVILEGE not a right.

Exactly. The DADT restricts military to ask questions about that kind of behavior - this encourages lies and dishonesty and makes things worse.

You don't get it. THEY LIED BEFORE DADT. BEFORE DADT there was a ban on homosexuals in the military. They LIED to get in.

And you have been told that those who push homosexuals in the military get banned on FR. Homosexuals in the military is NOT a conservative belief.

90 posted on 10/21/2010 4:37:24 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

‘Military service is a PRIVILEGE not a right.’

Exactly - the military should be able to deny them application with no problem if ban is the military policy.

‘You don’t get it. THEY LIED BEFORE DADT.’

They lied before, they lie even more with DADT. If they are not able to serve, the military should be able to ask question about such behavior and they have to tell. DADT is ridiculous.

‘And you have been told that those who push homosexuals in the military get banned on FR. Homosexuals in the military is NOT a conservative belief.’

The post was banned yesterday - my post today has nothing to do with gays in the military - you hijacked the thread.

DADT aides and abets the gays who serve secretly in the military. I am against DADT - DADT makes the military tolerate the gays serving secretly - it is perversion.

They should be open and they should be denied or accepted - no half a s s in policy like DADT.


91 posted on 10/21/2010 7:01:44 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Red_Devil 232

LOL, Bob Beckel was on Hannity and said in honor of Juan Willaims he will NOT be donating to NPR this year.


92 posted on 10/21/2010 7:04:04 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Big Bureaucracy
you hijacked the thread.

Not me. Conservatives did. Because what you are spouting is not conservative.

They should be open and they should be denied or accepted

"Or accepted" is what will get your posting privileges revoked. That's called banning. You only had a thread pulled yesterday.

93 posted on 10/21/2010 7:39:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Our troops serve with the NATO forces. UK, France - NATO recruits openly gay. Our troops already serve with the openly gay NATO troops everywhere where they have joint operations.

Clinton’s ridiculous policy makes us look ridiculous - ban them openly - let’s be honest about it- DADT is liberal BS - honesty is conservative value.


94 posted on 10/21/2010 8:42:49 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: mware

Juan Williams, Bob Beckel - we disagree on issues, but they come and debate - don’t walk out, shut up discourse.

The pinhead CEO of NPR will really be sorry when the Congress defunds them.

I see YouCut proposal right here - save millions in 10 years - defund NPR!


95 posted on 10/21/2010 8:48:47 PM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy
Our troops already serve with the openly gay NATO troops everywhere where they have joint operations.

So we should be as degenerate as Europe? Please!

I have never defended DADT. I said they shouldn't serve, you believe they should. That's a banning offense.

96 posted on 10/22/2010 4:31:44 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

‘So we should be as degenerate as Europe? Please!’

I did not say that. I said that it is a fact that our troops already serve with the openly gay NATO troops.

DADT does not prevent our troops from serving with openly gay - just assists the secretly gay.

I am glad we both agree that DADT is stupid.


97 posted on 10/22/2010 6:04:55 AM PDT by Big Bureaucracy
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To: Big Bureaucracy
I said that it is a fact that our troops already serve with the openly gay NATO troops.

So what?

DADT does not prevent our troops from serving with openly gay - just assists the secretly gay.

They have always "served secretly". The ONLY difference DADT made was that no one dared ask. NOW they'll serve openly. THAT is a disaster.

98 posted on 10/22/2010 6:18:48 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Big Bureaucracy; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; manc; scripter; a fool in paradise; xzins; ...
I did not say that. I said that it is a fact that our troops already serve with the openly gay NATO troops.

DADT does not prevent our troops from serving with openly gay - just assists the secretly gay.

ONLY LEFTISTS suggest that American policy should be based on what Europeans think we should do. (Oh and as you seem to want to present yourself as some sort of "expert" on NATO, I can't help but wonder why you brought up French troops. The French have been withdrawn from NATO militarily for decades.)

I am glad we both agree that DADT is stupid.

Are you deliberately obtuse or is it an intellectual handicap? There is a huge difference between the conservative position and the position that you hold. Here's a summary in case you're confused:

Conservatives: Want to repeal DADT and NOT ALLOW homosexuals to serve in the United States Military. We don't give a damn how the Europeans do it.

YOU: Want to repeal DADT and allow homosexuals to serve in the US Military as long as they can pass the same tests that are given to everyone else who wants to enlist.

Do you see the difference?

99 posted on 10/22/2010 7:26:12 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Big Bureaucracy

I can post a link (yet again) to testimony by a US general who served with NATO troops and the NATO leaders told him that having homosexuals in the military harmed military morale and readiness.

Why do you insist on using the propaganda word “gay”? To make those who practice same sex sodomy look all cute and happy and harmless?


100 posted on 10/22/2010 7:50:50 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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