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Devs bet big on Android over Apple's iOS
ComputerWorld ^ | September 27, 2010 | By Gregg Keizer

Posted on 09/27/2010 7:52:33 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier

Computerworld - A majority of mobile application developers see Google's Android as the smart bet over the long run even as they vote for Apple's iOS in the short term, according to a survey published Monday.

The survey, conducted jointly by Appcelerator and IDC, polled more than 2,300 developers who use Appcelerator's Titanium cross-platform compiler to produce iOS and Android native applications using JavaScript, HTML and CSS.

Of those developers, 59% said that Android had the "best long-term outlook," compared to just 35% who pegged Apple's iOS with that label.

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To make things even tougher for Apple down the road, the bulk of developers viewed Android as the best operating system to use in other hardware, including the anticipated Google TV and other home appliances. Seventy-two percent answered "Android," just 25% "iOS" when asked to name the "best positioned to power a large number of connected devices in the future."

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KEYWORDS: android; apple; future; growth; ios; tech; technology
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To: montag813
> And there is where this thread went horribly, horribly wrong.

Indeed, you are correct.

Time to declare victory and retire from the field of battle. :)

Goodnight, all!

41 posted on 09/27/2010 10:33:29 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Wow a tech thread with no preemptive warnings in big red bold fonts about trolls, or bullet lists of subjects that are not to be talked about. WTG Soldier!


42 posted on 09/27/2010 10:33:35 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
The point is also that with iOS you don’t have a choice BUT to use Objective C. You can’t use alternates.

BUT... your information is inaccurate again, as usual. iPhone apps can be written in Objective-C, Javascript, C++ and plain old C languages. Apple is now accepting apps developed with Adobe's iPhone compiler. The C64 app has a BASIC interpreter. At my shop, we also use some of those languages on the server side to support communications with iPhone client apps. PHP works especially well with iPhones in a client-server arrangement, in combination with other systems like Apache and MySQL, although we sometimes use the iPhone's built-in SQLite database system too.

Meanwhile, Google is getting sued by Oracle over their use of the Java language, which is owned by Oracle after their acquisition of Sun Microsystems. No one can predict how that will turn out.

43 posted on 09/27/2010 10:56:03 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: HAL9000

Please cut the attacks...


44 posted on 09/27/2010 11:01:31 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: HAL9000
Or, it might be better to say that no one can predict with any certainty how Oracle's lawsuit against Google over the Java language will affect the Android platform. Anyone can make a prediction, but no one knows the outcome of the lawsuit yet. Android programmers may be able to continue using Java if Google loses the lawsuit, but there is a risk that they will have to trash their current apps too.

Is Google indemnifying Android developers if they use Java? Not yet, according to this article. So if Oracle wins the lawsuit, they may be able to sue third-party Android developers on an individual basis.

45 posted on 09/27/2010 11:04:36 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

What attacks? Your information is clearly inaccurate. That’s not an attack, it is a demonstrable statement of fact. Please cut the inaccurate information.


46 posted on 09/27/2010 11:06:53 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: HAL9000

The “as usual” hit.

Cut the attacks. This was a peaceful thread, let’s get it back...


47 posted on 09/27/2010 11:50:31 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: dayglored; PugetSoundSoldier

“You can’t really believe that means anything about the products or the companies, right? It’s only about price tags. “

It’s about perceived value. Performance, appearance, functionality, and price all feed into the calculation of value. Most people do not buy on price alone. They may decide the higher price is not justified when the other factors are nearly equal.


48 posted on 09/28/2010 4:01:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: HAL9000; PugetSoundSoldier

“BUT... your information is inaccurate again, as usual”

That is an attack, please stop.


49 posted on 09/28/2010 4:04:59 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dayglored
Since the mid-80's, Apple has always been content -- indeed has always successfully aimed -- to supply a premium product to the high and mid-high end of their chosen markets. They produce the first successful "whatever", get a lot of airplay, seize some marketshare, and then as competitors copy their products, they yield the market (percentage-wise) while continuing to make a hell of a profit margin. Their competitors race to the bottom.

The article is not about the platform manufacturer being successful, it is about the developers being successful.

Assuming what you say is true, then the developers have to look at the potential return on developing for that platform. Developers sell "seats" and they don't care if it's a Barcalounger or a platic patio chair, they get the same return on either one. Market share may not matter to Apple, but it has to matter to those developers, because market share is seats.

50 posted on 09/28/2010 4:33:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: driftdiver; PugetSoundSoldier
> It’s about perceived value. Performance, appearance, functionality, and price all feed into the calculation of value. Most people do not buy on price alone. They may decide the higher price is not justified when the other factors are nearly equal.

I think we're only debating degree, not absolutes.

What you say is true of a mid-range segment of the consumer market (for any given product), where price matters but some intelligent trade-offs are made on features, quality, etc. against price. No argument that that segment exists.

Above that mid-segment, things like feature set, brand loyalty, quality of manufacture, support, etc. are more important than price -- Apple lives there. Below that mid-segment, price is paramount, and all else is secondary -- low-mid and low-end features, so-called "value-priced", store-brand, knock-off, goods that in some cases are almost a parody of the real product; and for most product categories, that segment has the highest number of purchases.

Without sales numbers for that matrix we can't really argue quantitatively, but qualitatively, I think we're saying the same thing, and only disagreeing on how large the various segments are relatively. So in the absence of numbers, we can give that a rest.

51 posted on 09/28/2010 7:24:17 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: tacticalogic
> Market share may not matter to Apple, but it has to matter to those developers, because market share is seats.

Yes, what you say is quite true in that regard.

52 posted on 09/28/2010 7:25:28 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

‘Above that mid-segment, things like feature set, brand loyalty, quality of manufacture, support, etc. are more important than price — Apple lives there.”

So do other companies, companies that sell a lot of smart phones.

People whose only consideration is price rarely buy smartphones. They are buying the generic phone which provides call functionality without all the bells and whistles.


53 posted on 09/28/2010 7:27:32 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
> People whose only consideration is price rarely buy smartphones. They are buying the generic phone which provides call functionality without all the bells and whistles.

Good point.

As an aside, while I usually make my electronics purchases at the upper-mid end of the market range, my own cell phone happens to be an exception. I've got a low-end cheapie LG 5500 stupidphone, because I don't want or need the smartphone features, at least at this time. All I ever use it for is making phone calls/SMS and as an alarm clock, period. :)

54 posted on 09/28/2010 8:13:35 AM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: driftdiver
That is an attack, please stop.

I commented on the content of the messages, not the person. If I had said "You are lying again, as usual", that would be a personal attack. Instead, I was observing the pattern of inaccurate information. I will continue to criticize inaccurate information, especially when it is posted repeatedly.

55 posted on 09/29/2010 7:34:58 AM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: HAL9000; PugetSoundSoldier

To use your own example you used the term “as usual”, it was a personal attack. Do it again and I will submit to the mods for their determination.

This thread has been an interesting technical discussion, please stop instigating and flaming.


56 posted on 09/29/2010 7:48:01 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I’m not concerned about baseless complaints. I will continue to express my opinions and point out patterns of false information, as always.


57 posted on 09/29/2010 12:04:03 PM PDT by HAL9000 ("No one made you run for president, girl."- Bill Clinton)
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To: HAL9000; PugetSoundSoldier

The complaints are not baseless. Please stop being a troll.


58 posted on 09/29/2010 1:25:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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