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If you could eliminate one person from history...who would it be? (vanity)
Sep 22, 2010 | Abin Sur

Posted on 09/22/2010 8:32:49 PM PDT by Abin Sur

If you could eliminate one person from history, who would it be? One caveat: it can't be Muhammad, for one simple reason: almost everyone is going to pick him! This would get rather monotonous, so let's just assume that 90% (at least) of the responses would pick Muhammad first. If you still pick him...BZZT I'm sorry, you've lost, thank you for playing and here's a copy of our home game.

And let's not have anyone picking Muhammad's father or grandfather just to get at him, either. That's cheating.

Ok, now that that's out of the way, who do you pick? Here's the rules: You can go back in history and prevent any one person from being born. You don't have to kill anyone. For instance, if you want to stop Hitler from being born, you can go up to Klara Pölzl (Adolph's mother) in 1880 and give her 10,000 marks to emigrate to the USA. She never marries Alois, so presto...no Adolph. This will have the incidental effect of preventing his brothers from being born as well, of course.

After you prevent your target from being conceived, you snap back to 2010 and enjoy living in a world made better by your actions. Bear in mind, though, that removing someone from history may not have that great an effect. If you prevent Darwin from existing, someone is still going to come up with the theory of evolution. It may be called by another name, and it may be delayed by a decade or two, but things tend to get invented when it's time to invent them.

I would note that some individuals would be exceptions. If you took out Isaac Newton (heaven know why, but it's your choice), modern science as we know it would be delayed by half a century, at least.

Anyway, that's the setup. Who do you pick, and what do you think would be the result of this person not existing?


TOPICS: History; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: abinsur; alternatehistory; history; massmurdering; mohammed; muhammed; pedophile
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To: Abin Sur; 18wheeler
The time travel technology employed in this experiment laughs at the puny butterfly effect.

The "butterfly effect" is a proven scientific fact. Time travel is still a theory.

101 posted on 09/22/2010 9:09:23 PM PDT by abbyg55
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To: Abin Sur
Whatever gave birth to the first Rockefeller.

or

Michael Moore's mother's fat trick.

or

whoever didn't flush and gave us George Soros.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

102 posted on 09/22/2010 9:10:18 PM PDT by The Comedian
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To: Abin Sur

It’s a good bet that if Hitler hadn’t been born, very few of us would have been either. WW II had an enormous effect on the mating habits and match ups of many Americans.


103 posted on 09/22/2010 9:10:33 PM PDT by Minn
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To: KoRn

The butterfly effect is bunk. A butterfly flapping wings is lost to the background effect of the jetstream, etc. I can’t believe people fall for that one!


104 posted on 09/22/2010 9:10:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Abin Sur

Lennin, Mao, Stalin, Hitler and the root of most of our current social problems, Earl Warren.


105 posted on 09/22/2010 9:12:12 PM PDT by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: editor-surveyor
King Henry VIII opened the door. Without King Henry VIII apostasy, Martin may not have had the impact that he did. If England and Spain had remained in close working relationship, reformation might not have been so divisive.
106 posted on 09/22/2010 9:14:17 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Guyin4Os
Ishmael

Good pick.

107 posted on 09/22/2010 9:15:20 PM PDT by theymakemesick ( islam - inspired by Satan www.prophetofdoom.net)
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To: theymakemesick

My conundrum is that I’d lose my kids if I chose my ex wife.


108 posted on 09/22/2010 9:17:23 PM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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To: Jed Eckert
The one common ancestor to all the morons that voted for Obama.

What the....? All of my siblings, except one, voted for Obama! What're ya trying to do to me here? LOL

109 posted on 09/22/2010 9:17:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeah... sort of.


110 posted on 09/22/2010 9:18:53 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: hole_n_one

Hey! I’m a fan of the DH.


111 posted on 09/22/2010 9:20:22 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: Abin Sur

My vote would be Karl Marx.

It’s scary the answers liberals on KOS would come up with. I bet there would be a lot saying Moses, Jesus, Paul, or Reagan.


112 posted on 09/22/2010 9:20:56 PM PDT by MNDude (Ask the Native American's how their "Open Borders" policy worked out for them.)
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To: Celtic Cross

I think Ishmael’s mother was called Hagar rather than Ishtar.


113 posted on 09/22/2010 9:22:22 PM PDT by 'smith
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To: Abin Sur
Ṣalāḥ ad-Dīn, or Salidin. The smartest Muslim military leader in the last 1,000 years. Without him, all 12 muslims, the rest having been slaughtered by the Crusaders, would be behind a sand dune drinking sheep pee to survive...
114 posted on 09/22/2010 9:22:28 PM PDT by jonascord (The Tea Party just gave the Republican senators an ice-water enema.)
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To: Abin Sur

Hitler, Lenin, Stalin are all good choices. But the suicide of the West started with World War I. Had it been avoided, none of those bums would ever have amounted to anything. With no World War I, no World War II. Probably no Great Depression, certainly no Wilsonian template for FDR’s regimentation of American life through the alphabet soup of the New Deal.

So, I nominate Kaiser Wilhelm II. Bad combination of nationalism, militarism, paranoia and stupidity. Bismarck knew how to throw Germany’s weight around but also when to back off. Kaiser Bill wasn’t that smart.


115 posted on 09/22/2010 9:23:06 PM PDT by Burma Jones
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To: Abin Sur
If you prevent Darwin from existing, someone is still going to come up with the theory of evolution.

True dat...Alfred Russel Wallace would be right there, and no change to the timetable, either.

116 posted on 09/22/2010 9:24:38 PM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: MHGinTN

Hey I know this scientist guy who invented a hurricane making machine and he told me his life was save by bending down to pick up a butterfly flapping his wings right while a bullet flew over his head.


117 posted on 09/22/2010 9:25:49 PM PDT by MNDude (Ask the Native American's how their "Open Borders" policy worked out for them.)
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To: MHGinTN

Agreed that the butterfly is taking the point to the extreme (maybe), but you don’t have too to far beyond to make the point valid.


118 posted on 09/22/2010 9:25:56 PM PDT by 18wheeler
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To: Abin Sur

Since Satan, Ishmael, and Hagar have already been chosen, I’ll go with my dad.


119 posted on 09/22/2010 9:29:38 PM PDT by FourPeas (Pester not the geek, for the electrons are his friends.)
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To: Abin Sur

Ted Kennedy.


120 posted on 09/22/2010 9:30:09 PM PDT by ConservativeStatement (Obama "acted stupidly.")
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