The Abandonment of Social Conservatism for Fiscal Conservatism

http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2010/06/abandonment-of-social-conservatism-for.html ^ | 6/30/10

[The Ignorant Fisherman]

We citizens of America are in a fight for our life as a nation. Over the last 75 years we have witnessed a subtle and dramatic takeover of our Republic, which was founded on bedrock principles rooted in the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God. Social conservatism is also based on natural laws and moral absolutes instilled at the dawn of creation. Alarmingly, we are seeing conservatism being thrown violently overboard and subtly replaced with a progression of immoral laws rooted in secular humanism. This godless ideology is based on an adherence to unnatural laws of error that produce only decadence and anarchy. Our nation has fallen dramatically and exponentially in the past 50 years. It doesn't take an MSNBC anchor to comprehend this. These “fifth column secularists” are fully aware of this progression and are moving as fast as they can to transform our nation into their delusional, secular-socialist-utopian state.

What is even more troubling is the trend that exists in the Conservative movement of today. Many who identify themselves as “genuine Conservatives” are in fact nothing more than mere “fiscal Conservatives.” What is most disturbing is that on the current and important issues, it is readily apparent that most of these hold liberal views and base their values on a “morally relative” position. When “push comes to shove,” they are quite willing to abandon in a heartbeat core moral absolutes in favor of sound fiscal policies.

[The Ignorant Fisherman]

It has been the abandonment of the Conservative social-moral position that has destroyed our U.S. culture and society

[cripplecreek]

My candidate is a rare combination of both.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Walberg

http://www.walbergforcongress.com/Home.aspx

[misterrob]

Rant on, dude!!!!!

Bwa ha ha ha ha

[RockinRight]

It’s been the abandonment of fiscal sanity for fake, Bible-thumping nanny-state psuedo-conservatism that has destroyed our society, actually.

It used to be that family and social values were a given regardless of politics - THAT is the problem, not some politicians position on gay marriage.

[nmh]

“It has been the abandonment of the Conservative social-moral position that has destroyed our U.S. culture and society.”

YES!

We are ow becoming a Sodom and Gomorrah.

Thank you again for fresh air on the reality of where this country is going. It is our CORE values that are compromising DOWN. You cannot have a society of upright people when cretins like Barney Frank and literally criminals are running the country. It wouldn't matter if they were fiscal conservatives ... it's their ungodly heart that is transforming this country into a Sodom and Gomorrah.

[dila813]

My Social conservatism drives my Fiscal conservatism.

It is due to my knowledge (not belief) of the importance of these values to drive a successful sociality without living off the government teet.

[nmh]

Ignore detractors. You are a far cry from being “ignorant”. However I do enjoy the play on words. Those that have immoral issues, will bray on. Tune them out. You, speak the truth and that is what is important. LIBERALtarinas have contributed greatly to out on going social decline and they claim to be “fiscal conservatives”. Only in their warped, immoral minds could that be so. FOr LIBERALtarians, their god is money.

[bwc2221]

There’s a good candidate in MI-9 too.

http://www.rockyworksforus.com/

[Constitution Day]

It’s been the abandonment of fiscal sanity for fake, Bible-thumping nanny-state pseudo-conservatism that has destroyed our society, actually.

It used to be that family and social values were a given regardless of politics - THAT is the problem, not some politicians position on gay marriage.

BUMP!!

[cripplecreek]

Rocky sounds good too and that’s what its going to take. True blue conservatives.

We need a serious housecleaning in the statehouse as well.

[nmh]

The real problem is people not acknowledging God. It was only through Him and by His principles which include moral and fiscal policies that this country WAS great. At best we can onlu imitate Him. Now we advocate the opposite of this. We can't kick God out of our society fast enough and we are seeing the devastating results of that. The latest tragedy is Obama. It's not above my pay grade to KNOW that abortion is wrong and so are ALL his other policies - because he is NO Christian. Obama is pure evil and this is what people voted for _ pure evil and unable to discern the difference.

[Huck]

This place is in no other than the Savior of the World, the Lord Jesus Christ! He ALONE possesses all the remedies for man.

Here's the money shot. "Social conservatism" is a euphamism for Christianity. The only thing required to be a Christian is freedom of religion, which we still possess. There is no other government intervention required.

[cripplecreek]

“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.” George Washington.
[speech to the Delaware Indian Chiefs May 12, 1779]

"To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian"
George Washington. [May 2, 1778, at Valley Forge]

Rebellion against tyrants is obedience to God.
Ben Franklin

[GonzoGOP]

The two are not mutually exclusive and are in fact usually complementary. Most socially liberal policies require the expenditure of large sums of money. Most socially conservative policies are commonsense, and relatively cheap. For example cutting off funding for abortion, NPR, PBS and the NEA are both morally desirable and fiscally responsible. Support the action for whatever reason you like as the action is the same regardless. Taking away peoples rights requires either enforcement (secret police = expensive) or a bribe (social programs = very expensive). It turns out giving people their liberty is darn near free from the Government's POV.

[Tatze]

It’s been the abandonment of fiscal sanity for fake, Bible-thumping nanny-state psuedo-conservatism that has destroyed our society, actually.

It used to be that family and social values were a given regardless of politics - THAT is the problem, not some politicians position on gay marriage.

Yeah... What he said!

[RockinRight]

Exactly my point.

Politicians shouldn’t even really be about the social issues aside from right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness (throw property in there too).

So, abortion matters more than, say, gay marriage.

The problem is that the conservative movement has (until perhaps this past year) changed from basically fiscally sane Goldwaterism/Reaganism, to being a staunch social conservative who would just as soon spend or tax as much as any democrat...as long as they took the right position on abortion, gays, and guns, and the religious right ate it up and called it conservatism.

Just let me live my life according to socially conservative values and leave me, and my wallet (and right to bear arms) the hell alone! That’s all I ask.

[Miztiki]

I agree.

Social conservatism is extremely important. Without it, we are doomed.

In all honesty, I think our nation is already doomed. We just don’t realize it yet.

[RockinRight]

You’re absolutely correct. My problem is that the so-called social conservatives have proven that on fiscal matters they spend as much as Democrats.

[Psycho_Bunny]

The two are mutually exclusive.

[massgopguy]

The Republican candidate for governor in MA marched in the Gay Pride parade with the founders of the organization that put the names of those who signed the Marriage Petition on-line so that we could be harassed at home and in some cases at work.