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My problem is that the so-called social conservatives have proven that on fiscal matters they spend as much as Democrats.

My theory tends to be take away their money. That solves 90% of the problems in a single step. Then negotiate with the Social Cons and Libertarians over what is left. Like I said when there is no money to spend there isn't much you can do other than give people their freedoms.

And it turns out that without the nanny state there to give handouts people tend to turn to family, faith and community for support. That's where the Social Cons make their impact and earn their converts.

The government should not concern itself with forcing people to be moral. But it turns out that when the full cost of immorality is born by the immoral person, rather than being pawned off on the taxpayer as it is now, morality tends to be self reinforcing. For example want to during yourself into the gutter and make yourself unemployable, without nanny government to pay your way and provide "Homes for the homeless" you starve or freeze. Of course there are many church groups that will help you to get sober and clean yourself up. But they will demand that you give up the immoral lifestyle. But note that free choice is absolutely preserved. What the church groups provide is provided voluntarily, the IRS man doesn't make them give. And the drunk has the free choice to stay in the gutter or accept the hand up.