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Stephen Hawking Says Aliens Exist... But Are They an End-Times Deception?
ECR on Facebook ^ | 24 Apr 10 | EC

Posted on 04/24/2010 5:48:57 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle

Interesting thoughts on "aliens" by Stephen Hawking. Question - Is it possible that "aliens" are really just a demonic deception that will be revealed in the last days to lead us astray?

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TOPICS: Religion; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aliens; apocalypse; bonneylake; deception; demonic; elshaddaiministries; endtimes; hawking; markbiltz; washington
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To: Windflier

“Can’t a person reach their own conclusions based on their own observations and reasoned analysis?’

Of course they can.
I was referring to the kooks that see ET on every street corner, and claim to see flying saucers every day.


41 posted on 04/24/2010 7:16:47 PM PDT by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: Windflier

I was being sarcastic. I’m a Christian, but I get a bit exasperated when my coreligionists sometimes attribute anything inconvenient to demons, from dinosaurs to ET visitors to some of the findings of science.


42 posted on 04/24/2010 7:17:14 PM PDT by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: nysuperdoodle
I prefer to harbor the hope that any intelligent life ‘out there’ that have advanced scientifically sufficient to reach us has also advanced in intelligence - socially - beyond what we so far have - as it's not looking too promising down here.

After the thousands of years we've had to progress, it's not looking like we've gotten very far.

Indeed, lately, I'm thinking some of our previous civilizations may have been further along than we are mow - I'm not sure we aren't REgressing.

43 posted on 04/24/2010 7:17:46 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: ottbmare

“Why would demons bother to create the illusion of flying saucers, grays, LGMs, etc.? Seems like a waste of everyone’s energy.”

Here’s a few reasons, prefaced by this thought - we know what’s coming:

“For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” Matthew 24:24 (NKJV)

1. The “New Age” is very open to the idea of “ascended spiritual masters” and are very open about their belief in alien life forms, frequently claiming contact with them, as well as claiming that these aliens are pointing us towards global unity, global government, environmentalism and earth worship, while also saying that the aliens haven’t contacted us openly yet because we’re “not ready” yet. Frequently they cite Christianity and nationalism as the limiting factors in raising the “vibration” of life here in Earth.

2. In order for the globalists and new agers to fully take charge of Earth, as we know they are destined to do for a time (if you read your Bible), they have to get some serious credibility from somewhere.

3. The emergence of “alien” life forms would be a great vehicle to do that, as they would be viewed as immediate authorities, and many people have been conditioned (like some of the posters right here on this thread” to see “aliens” as superior to us in technological, intellectual, and even spiritual matters. If these “aliens” pointed us all towards the global government and a “new age” many would follow.

4. A demonic ability to transcend space and time in the spiritual realm could be easily explained as “advanced technology” as could all their supernatural abilities.

5. Since they come from another world - one without Jesus - we could assume that the emergence of “aliens” would be seen as supreme evidence disproving biblical Christianity and creation. They may even claim to BE gods - the ones who created us. Or they may claim to be further “evolved” than we are - thereby disproving the existence of God for many.

Those are just a few thoughts. There is more than just a little speculation involved, but it seems like the pieces would fit. It seems to me that the last thing a demon would appear as would be a demon. What could be better than a super-evolved, altruistic, mystic alien race to guide us away from God’s word?... I’m just sayin’

Now where did I put my tin foil hat?


44 posted on 04/24/2010 7:19:00 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle
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To: LucyJo

Great article, though I only skimmed a few sections in between posts. One of the better, more reasoned analyses that I’ve seen lately.


45 posted on 04/24/2010 7:19:12 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

that’a been my thinging -


46 posted on 04/24/2010 7:19:35 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: nysuperdoodle
It’s true! It’s true!


47 posted on 04/24/2010 7:21:14 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: AlexW
I was referring to the kooks that see ET on every street corner, and claim to see flying saucers every day.

Ok. It sounded as though you were denouncing any and everyone who wanted to talk about this.

I also have no patience for kooks.

48 posted on 04/24/2010 7:23:57 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Well he does have that cool voice box thing.


49 posted on 04/24/2010 7:26:15 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nysuperdoodle

What is your own comment? And who the hell is ECR? And why should I navigate to some teenager’s Facebook to get more? Geez.


50 posted on 04/24/2010 7:26:55 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: HerrBlucher
However, if one asked me to take him to “my leader”, I would have no problem giving him Obama’s address

Altho' they may be from the same planet. After all, we don't know where dear leader comes from...

51 posted on 04/24/2010 7:28:46 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: BIGLOOK

Virus looks like it was assembled from about $1.50 in doodads from the hardware aisle of Home Depot.


52 posted on 04/24/2010 7:30:21 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nysuperdoodle

What is Evil Conservative Radio?


53 posted on 04/24/2010 7:31:01 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

What do you think it is?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=144481


54 posted on 04/24/2010 7:35:27 PM PDT by nysuperdoodle
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To: Yardstick
$1.50?

Oh no....much less than that. Maybe from a single cell from a Home Depot aisle stocker and (cough....cough....) it got around.
55 posted on 04/24/2010 7:37:18 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: nysuperdoodle
“I suspect there could be life and intelligence out there in forms we can’t conceive,” he said. “Just as a chimpanzee can’t understand quantum theory, it could be there are aspects of reality that are beyond the capacity of our brains.”

But on the other hand, they are too smart to entertain the existence of God.

56 posted on 04/24/2010 7:38:44 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: maine-iac7
I prefer to harbor the hope that any intelligent life ‘out there’ that have advanced scientifically sufficient to reach us has also advanced in intelligence - socially - beyond what we so far have...

I would say that they have to have advanced as far in the humanities, as they have in the technical sciences to have survived evolutionary periods like the one we're currently in.

It's my guess that most advanced civilizations blow themselves up at the point where they develop atomic weapons.

Any society that has the technical knowledge and know-how to navigate the galaxies has to have learned a great deal about spiritual matters, and overcome the worst of their basest instincts. I believe those two things have to go hand in hand.

However, there is a way for a less-advanced race to wind up star traveling, and that is where they've obtained star traveling technology without developing it themselves.

We see this same phenomenon occurring right here on earth, where backwards, near-primitive cultures are suddenly thrust into the space age by contact with high tech nations.

The most glaring example of this (to my mind) is the Arab peoples. They mostly went from being nomadic Bedouins and sheep herders, to denizens of the modern age, overnight, when oil was discovered in their countries.

It's no wonder that even with billions of petro dollars flooding into their countries, and modern tools of civilization at their disposal, they yet behave in a crippled, backward manner.

Look at them. They're warlike, and tribalistic - fearful and distrusting of modern western culture. Obviously, their religion is chiefly responsible for that attitude, but look at how they use modern technology. Oftentimes, they use it for warlike purposes.

A space-faring culture that isn't advanced enough to develop the technology of interstellar flight could still easily wind up in possession of it.

57 posted on 04/24/2010 7:41:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: nysuperdoodle

I don’t know about aliens but one night my wife woke up out of a nightmare to what she described as a dark demon with white eyes and white teeth inches from her face laughing. She says she began praying and the thing slank away and disappeared. I dong know what to think of this she has never had this kind of thing happen before and has never been one to “see things”. I did find that others had reported similiar encounters when researching it.


58 posted on 04/24/2010 7:41:37 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: Windflier
He goes on to say that there's no question that earth is under constant surveillance by extraterrestrials

I theorize that they keep us under surveillance as a protective measure - not sure for us or for them and the "neighborhood."

Are they maybe assigned to watch without interfering unless we get too dangerous to ourselves and the planet we live on?

If so, and we reach for the weapons that may not only do our 'enemies' in, but do irrefutable harm to the planet that may adversely affect our solar system - maybe beyond - will they step in and stop us?

And if they step in, will it be to help us 'see the Light"? or to take action that insures we will not, in the future, ever be able to upset the applecart?

And if the latter - will they take us Conservatives outta here to a better, saner place?


59 posted on 04/24/2010 7:44:01 PM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: Yardstick
Well he does have that cool voice box thing.

eeeee...that thing creeps me out.

60 posted on 04/24/2010 7:44:48 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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