Posted on 04/12/2010 9:34:42 AM PDT by CaroleL
As the Obama administration continues its plan to usurp the rights of the American people with regard to commerce, energy, immigration and other key issues of our time; we should remember the warning of one of our nation's founders with regard to our rights and the document that was supposed to safeguard them. What many, especially those educated in the "modern" American public school system, may not know is that the founders strongly disagreed on whether or not to include the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution.
(Excerpt) Read more at talkingsides.com ...
I woudln’t worry about it. The Republicans will be back in power soon enough, and all the same things Obama’s doing will be okay again.
Interesting...
“Alexander Hamilton, a fervent opponent of the Bill of Rights, certainly agreed with the content of those amendments. What he opposed was the idea that they be included in the document at the exclusion of all other rights. Here is his warning to us:
“I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do?”
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 84, 1788”
Yep, let's add a new benefit for Medicare and threaten House members "don't f**k with us" if they don't support it on the floor during the 2-hour vote.
This is why so many Tea Party folks are deeply suspicious of folks like Freedom Works trying to pick their leaders.
I found FR when Clinton was in office. I thought “Finally! People who get it!”.
Then I watched them praise Bush up and down for the same things. Go figure.
Bush the second caused debate (cat fights) on FR much as Sara Palin does today.
A probable majority here felt he was a nice guy, very good in some things, nearly ideal in view of 9/11, and woefully lame in other, equally critical, respects.
Picture 9/11 taking place with Paul or Obama in the Oval Office - then decide.
I think Bush’s response to 9/11 was debacle of epic proportions. So there ya go.
Hamilton was completely wrong.
The Constitution says what it means and means what it says.
The clarification of rights given in the first 10 amendments do not make those few rights extra-special and do not diminish our other rights, not so specifically clarified. Nor are the limits on government power weakened in other areas of the Constitution that don’t have such extra-clear clarification.
Our problem today is that many people and politicians don’t care what the Constitution says and ignore it. The cause is due to a lack of moral, informed electorate who understand both the meaning and purpose of the Constitution and demand that their elected representatives uphold and defend it, as they swore to do.
If anything, I have always blamed Hamilton for being too ardent a supporter of government central power and preferred Jefferson’s deep seated distrust or government central power.
Hamilton was much too trusting. If Hamilton had his way and there was no Bill of Rights, we would have even less ammunition to fight for our rights.
If you think the Militia clause has caused a lot of problems giving the socialists an opening to banning guns except for police and military personnel, what do you think would have happened with no 2nd amendment at all. Back in 1968 they would have banned all guns outright and there would be no defense against it.
Can you imagine how much private property would be stolen from people without just compensation, without the 5th amendment? There would be no invoking the 5th amendment in court, to not incriminate yourself.
No, Hamilton was wrong all the way around from his lack of paranoia regarding central government power to his creating a national bank. He was just wrong.
Many of the Founders also strongly disagreed with Hamilton who favored ‘energetic’ government over constitutional limits. Enumerated powers was not his idea and he championed the distortion of the General Welfare clause in order to get what he wanted. We are still fighting the battle between Hamilton and Jefferson today as a result. The 9th and 10th amendments exist almost specifically because of him, Madison added them to keep Hamilton from getting too far out of bounds.
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