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Is the tea party movement being hoodwinked by the establishment?
American Thinker ^ | March 28, 2010 | Brian Shoemake

Posted on 03/28/2010 8:01:00 AM PDT by ejdrapes

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To: FreeReign

Here’s the interview:

http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml;jsessionid=EGMZQ3EX2ATY0CWIABQCFFAKZAAGMIWC?chid=3&schid=10414&secid=25534&cid=1716304&pagenum=2

She seems to be confused as to exactly what her position is. She says she’s for partial amnesty (”not total amnesty”), says we’d never remove all the illegals, and says we should give them a path to citizenship.

Well, if you don’t remove them (or take actions that will cause many, even most, to self-deport) and you give them a path to citizenship, then what are you left with? Amnesty.

It’s clear if you listen to what she said.


181 posted on 03/28/2010 1:29:02 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if people follow. Otherwise, you just wandered off.)
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To: ejdrapes

” Oh, ok so then she’s a fraud. Supporting McCain in the primary, even though she really would rather see Hayworth win. All I hear on talk radio and on conservative websites/blogs is that we need to get behind the most conservative candidates in the primaries. If Palin owes her fame and fortune to McCain then those who support her do to? Or were they supporters of her long before McCain picked her as his running mate?”

No she’s not a fraud. Her showing this initial support for John M to me is payback for his including her on the ticket.

That election is over and her debt is now paid.

My point is that I think she won’t dump on Hayworth, she’ll support him.

P.S. I only voted for McCain for 2 reasons:

1. Didn’t want Obama
2. He nominated Palin - who to me is the real deal


182 posted on 03/28/2010 1:52:24 PM PDT by patriotspride
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To: AuntB
Last weekend, right before she went down to see McNut, Sarah specifically warned us on FOX news that the Democrats would try amnesty next.

Do you have a link for that? Thanks.

Listen to the video clip from about 2:00 min/sec to about 2:40 for full context. She is warning that if the leftists pass Obamacare against the will of the people, they will then try to pass Cap and Tax and Amnesty for Illegals, next.

Link

183 posted on 03/28/2010 2:36:18 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

I still don’t have a notion about what you are yammering.

Too many drinks?

Don’t bother me anymore. You are not making sense.


184 posted on 03/28/2010 2:51:30 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

Over your head.


185 posted on 03/28/2010 2:54:46 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MNJohnnie
Make a case for your views that does not involve ad homine attacks at either Palin or her supporter. In making that case against Palin do not engage in the logical fallacy of stating your opinions as facts.

So far none of the Palin foes have done that simple thing. That is why the critics of Palin are gaining no ground with Freepers. We are use to seeing those sorts of gutter slime debate tactics directed at us from the Left. Those tactics merely piss off Conservatives.

Deserves repeating.

186 posted on 03/28/2010 4:40:46 PM PDT by rae4palin (RESIST--REPEAL--IMPEACH)
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To: ejdrapes
>>>But it seems to me it is all about one person - Palin. <<<

Have you been to a Tea Party where Palin was not a speaker or on the agenda? If you had, you would find that the focus of the activity is on Smaller Government, Lower Taxes, Robust Defense, and stopping Illegal Immigration.

Yes, there are some Palin signs - but she is not the primary motivator.

. The reason there is a T-Party movement is Obama and his totalitarian priorities and style!

We want American back - there are any number of solid Republicans that could run DC better - Palin may be one but she's far from he only one!

187 posted on 03/28/2010 4:47:35 PM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: ejdrapes

If there were no conservatives running in Arizona against McCain, it wouldn’t bother me so much that Sarah Palin was campaigning for him.

However, since JD Hayworth is running against the RINO, Sarah Palin is actively campaigning against the conservative. I don’t care if she feels that she needs to pay McCain back. The political good old boys network is destroying this country. A true conservative doesn’t sacrifice deeply held principles to pay back a “Favor.” That’s what sets us apart from the opposition, and quite frankly, a banana republic.

Obama is paying back all of his favors right now...Acorn, SEIU, the Auto Workers unions etc. Do we really need more of that? More politicians being given a pass for this back slapping good old boys behavior at the expense of liberty and freedom? I think not.

John McCain did Sarah Palin no favors in the latter days of the 2008 election. She owes him nothing. He placed her on the ticket and she worked hard for him. It was McCain who blew the election, not Sarah Palin. She did her job and she owes him nothing. It makes no sense that she would feel “Obligated” to abandon her principles to campaign against a true conservative after the slander job of Palin by McCain’s own staff in the media following the election.

During that time John McCain didn’t stand up for Sarah Palin’s dignity and honor one time. He remained silent while his own staff slammed her personally and professionally.

Why would Sarah Palin throw J.D. Hayworth under the bus to support John McCain? Either she is not a true conservative, or she is under the control of the Republican political machine. I don’t buy this “paying back a favor” excuse, and if you do, you’re missing the whole point of the Tea Party movement.

We don’t need anymore of this “Political Payback” and whenever I see it happening, I’m going to expose it. It’s important to be mindful of this behavior. That’s why I wrote the article. I hope it serves to make the Tea Party movement even stronger.

Thank you.
Sincerely,
Brian K. Shoemake
Constitutional Conservative
Tea Party Supporter


188 posted on 03/28/2010 9:50:38 PM PDT by Brian K. Shoemake (Tea Party Searchlight Nevada, Sarah Palin)
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To: Let's Roll
If we don't vote for the 'repeal' candidates, how will we get a veto proof congress next time?

Easy there, Cowboy. I never said anything about not voting for "repeal" candidates. I said be careful of tired old nags who will use the heat of the moment and the zest for "repeal" as a method to gain or return to office by presenting themselves as something that they are not. There is going to be a lot of that going on. The key for voters is to decide which ones are genuine and which ones are fake. My guess, and hence, my warning, is there will be a lot of fakes this go around. As I said Rhambo Emanuel isn't the only politician that understands the usefulness of a crisis....

189 posted on 03/29/2010 4:04:45 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: mrsmel

He had me fooled when he first came on the scene, and I’m not that easy to fool when it comes to people. He had all the trappings, articulate, good looks, good presentation. But it
didn’t take long for the wheels to come off. I won’t give him the honor of calling him a socialist, he’s an out and out communist. If you don’t get rid of him and his ilk he’ll have the country looking like Cuba in short order. That’s scary!


190 posted on 05/19/2010 10:24:46 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: FrankR

“Someone” is trying to register the Tea party movement as a political party in Michigan. In my opinion, this is a ploy by the democrats to marginalize the movement and take votes away from the Republicans. The Democrats will muddy the waters if they can and it’s all legal. Sounds like Soros money is behind this move since the Tea Party is grass roots and not organized in any official manner. The cost to Register will be around 100,000.00 and I doubt the “Tea Party” has that kind of financial backing, considering it’s grass roots. This is something the Democrats are good at, don’t discount the possibility.


191 posted on 05/19/2010 10:32:17 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: greyfox

To get a glimpse of the Obama voter I recommend you take a moment and look at these sites, I found them beyond belief and I’m sure you will agree, please take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9htwW21K8s&NR=1&feature=fvwp

These are two of many similar sites, a sad commentary on the
intelligence of the American voter.


192 posted on 05/19/2010 11:01:02 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: greyfox

To get a glimpse of the Obama voter I recommend you take a moment and look at these sites, I found them beyond belief and I’m sure you will agree, please take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm1KOBMg1Y8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9htwW21K8s&NR=1&feature=fvwp

These are two of many similar sites, a sad commentary on the
intelligence of the American voter.


193 posted on 05/19/2010 11:03:00 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: greyfox
Most of us who are conservative and know what the TEA party (little letter "p") is all about, will be able to spot these phonies a mile away. An ostrich can put on an elephant suit, but it still walks like an ostrich.

The left doesn't get it yet that the TEA party movement is NOT, and has never tried to be, a political party. Try tried to defeat it my ridicule by starting the "Coffee Party", and about 10 people showed up.

Another guy out west tried to start an official "tea Party", and it fell apart too.

Another thing the left hasn't picked up on yet is, we finally know that the wet spots on our shoes is not rain, but them pissing on our shoes and telling us it's rain.

Most of the folks on the right are busy with their lives, good people who never believed that anyone could be like this administration against this great country...now that their eyes are opened, they are sorely pissed about it.

Everyone has turned on their "trojan horse alarm", and the antennas are raised in search of the weasels.

Most democrats still think the TEA party is about a beverage...let them keep thinking that...
194 posted on 05/19/2010 3:08:53 PM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: mrsmel

Unfortunately the majority of voters on the left are uneducated dolts. If they read the papers at all they come away with what the press want them to know, sad, very sad indeed. It is to the lefts advantage to keep them uneducated because if they started to look around and ask questions the Democrats would be a forgotten party, which is what they should be.


195 posted on 05/20/2010 8:52:52 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: mrsmel

What is really sad is that too many people have been taken in and too few really analyze what’s going on. Sadder still is the fact that too many on both classes agree with him, they
have their own personal reasons for doing so. In the end we all believe what we want to believe but all too often we believe what someone else wants us to believe.


196 posted on 06/01/2010 5:36:57 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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To: FrankR

right on!


197 posted on 06/01/2010 5:40:36 AM PDT by greyfox (If I were a Democrat I'd be pushing for the fairness doctrine too.)
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