Posted on 03/28/2010 8:01:00 AM PDT by ejdrapes
Is the tea party movement being hoodwinked by the establishment? The one thing I take away from today's rally in Searchlight Nevada, is that the tea party is without question coalescing, and fiercely I might add, around a single Presidential candidate for 2012. . .Already. It's early in the game yet, and the whole idea behind the Tea Party movement was to objectively review all of our potential choices, so we would never be led down the path again. At least that's what I thought. After today, I'll never again look at the Tea Party movement as one made up of Constitutional Conservatives. They may be Conservative, but sadly, not my brand of Conservatism. Independent thinkers? I think not. Group thinkers? Indeed. After a rip-roaring reception for the Keynote Speaker, I was sadly disillusioned at the lack of criticism toward the former Alaska Governor and Republican Party "Cover Girl," Sarah Palin. Wasn't it just yesterday, she was in Arizona campaigning for the former "Maverick" suddenly turned rock-ribbed conservative "reach-across-the-isle" moderate "RINO" John McCain of McCain/Feingold, McCain/Kennedy fame? And who also voted for Amnesty for illegal aliens? That gang of 14 John McCain? The same John McCain who tenderly re-assured us during the 2008 campaign: "Barack Obama is a good man...If he's elected President you don't have anything to worry about." That John McCain? Yes, indeed Sarah Palin is supporting that same John McCain who sided with Bill Clinton against the Republicans and voted for the tobacco tax in the 90's that led to trial lawyers raking in millions at the expense of Americans. The same John McCain who voted in favor of campaign finance reform, and FDA regulation of vitamin supplements, the Patriot Act, and more. Sarah Palin spent Friday campaigning for John McCain against the true conservative and former Arizona Congressman J.D. Hayworth who has a true conservative record, and is campaigning on true constitutional values. Nothing conservative about that. Then she spent Saturday spouting conservative talking points like some kind of right wing warrior with Tea Partyers screaming like 12 year old girls at a Jonas Brothers concert. Nothing especially objective about that, or conservative as far as I'm concerned. I realized long ago that you can't listen to what politicians say, you have to watch what they do, and Sarah Palin's actions do not match her words. I never thought the Tea Party crowd could be so easily manipulated by the main-stream establishment machine. I only wish they would stick to true conservative values and consider the other candidates before they hitch their wagons to the apron strings of pretty ms. Palin. As I made my way through the crowd voicing my dis-approval of their irrational and exuberant support for Sarah Palin, I was yelled at and ridiculed by Tea Party attendees. I was subjected to near violence in one instance. I was told to "Get the hell out of here." and "You don't belong here boy." "Go back to Obama where you belong you commie." and other select less than flattering remarks about my looks and my political beliefs, and my sexual preferences. Striking behavior when you consider we are all conservative adults. The thought that was going through my head was: "Obama Zombies" only worse..."Palin Zombies!" It was the exact same group-think mentality with absolutey zero tolerance for my opinion. I was actually told that "I am the reason this country is so screwed up, and if I knew what was good for me I'd get the hell out of here..." I realized I was dealing with a group-think mentality who had already drunk the Koolaid. There was no reasoning with them. Apparently, Conservatives are so desperate for leadership, they'll line up behind the first pied-piper who comes along, regardless the consequences to the country. Sound at all familiar? The same machine that was behind the election of obama is hard at work drilling the brains of the Tea Partyers. Maybe not the exact same people, just the exact same political establishment machine... What did I take away from today's Tea Party rally in Searchlight? There's another "Hoodwink" coming in 2012 and it scares the hell out of me. Brian K. Shoemake
Brian Shoemake
Pahrump, NV
She's not the only one. For me someone like Michele Bachmann is just as courageous if not more so because she's an elected official who has to get re-elected in November. Palin doesn't have to worry about that now that she resigned from elected office.
Once again....here is my post and please read it carefully. I didn't say you said these things. I was very clear because I was citing several different posters:
Alice, I know you have seen the threads where certain posters post things like, "FUSP" and "Just pick the money up off the dresser, Palin" (referring to money supposedly left by McCain and essentially calling Palin a whore).
Just this morning, a long time FReeper called Sarah Palin "the enemy" on another thread.
These are the sorts of flame baiting posts that are leading to all the anger. Most of us that defend Palin against these vile comments don't like McCain.
The poster that said "FUSP" made that comment on his original post at comment #1. It was not a response to anyone else's comments. This is what I was trying to point out. These comments are unprovoked.
I did not, however, claim that you said any of these things.
Yes Bachmann is good and so are some others.
I could care less what is written on one’s hand. Do you really think that lowers her as a human being? I must say I don’t require perfection in any human much less a politician.
I didn’t say you had called me such things - I was called these things before the post with the FUSP was even posted. The attacks coming from the Palinistas are simply over the top - to ANYONE that disagrees - not just the ones who say inappropriate things.
The author gives himself away by showing contempt for the specifics of Sarah's speech.
A no-thank-you helping of McCain endorsement would have been one thing. This week has really been over the top.
I disagree but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Who would YOU have invited??
I was at the super, so I’m getting back to you now.
“How about ONE of you make a calm, rational argument against her for a change instead of just endlessly engaging in this sort of bile laced hysteric ad homine attack style politics?”
Prove to me where I have said the above?
If Sarah were black, all of you would be calling us racists.
And because we disagree with you and Sarah, you automatically accuse us of hating her. You are so blind. Disagreeing and hating are two different things.
Some of us have a brain and are comparing and thinking for ourselves. Group-think mentality is for the masses and not for the few of us who refuse to be part of a/the group.
Sarah is talking out of both sides of her mouth. A few days ago she was agreeing with McCain. Now she is speaking out of the other side of her mouth and saying the opposite. That doesn’t wash for me. I call it lying.
The cheeky Kenyan bastard got elected on group-thinking.
McCain would also have been an equal disaster. Rather than being born in Kenya, he was born in the Republic of Panama and is also a big liar and crook.
I'm not sure she is the best candidate for President, but I do know that we will never win any election if we insist on 100% purity. We are all human and have faults, why should a politician be any different? If I agree with a candidate 80% of the time and that other 20% is minor stuff, why throw them away? And yes, I think paying respect to McCain is minor. It's good manners and how common courtesy used to work. I guess some would rather Sarah ignore her moral values. Is that really what we want in a politician?
And once more, I am not saying Sarah should run for President, I am just saying people are flipping out over a minor incident in this major battle.
From looking at the event flier, it appears they had plenty of speakers without Palin.
But I’ll admit I’m not familiar with at least 5 of the speakers, or with their views and political positions. It’s possible Palin isn’t the only one with contrary positions. I don’t know.
So then they are both doing a good job standing up to Obama.
What contrary positions?
” McCain was eclipsed by Sarah Palin in Arizona. She made him look small and almost secondary by comparison. When Juan loses to J.D., she’ll support Hayworth much more vigorously than what she showed for Juan in the election that really matters. “
Good observation, and one I hope comes true..........
ejdrapes, I sent you a copy of my reply to MNJohnnie for your perusal. I thought it tad insulting for those who are not herd followers and can independently think for ourselves.
Did I say that? No. Said I thought the American Thinker would spot a troll and not publish one. Are there leftists out trying to split the Tea Party movement and the GOP by trashing Palin for endorsing McCain? You know there are. Not suggesting anyone here is but I see them on other forums. Especially on forums which are not primarily devoted to politics. Many of them don't even play the part of a troll. They are leftists who say they don't like Palin because she endorsed McCain (that makes little sense, they should like McCain but then leftists don't make sense)
Why did you put leftist troll in quotes? Makes it appear you are quoting me.
Make a case for your views that does not involve ad homine attacks at either Palin or her supporter. In making that case against Palin do not engage in the logical fallacy of stating your opinions as facts.
So far none of the Palin foes have done that simple thing. That is why the critics of Palin are gaining no ground with Freepers. We are use to seeing those sorts of gutter slime debate tactics directed at us from the Left. Those tactics merely piss off Conservatives.
You should speak for yourself Gatun and not pretend to think for independent thinkers.
Endorsing a non-conservative instead of a conservative, for one.
But I suppose I should be more precise: McCain has supported and authored a significant number of Liberty destroying measures in the Senate over the years. Yet he is the one Palin decided to endorse, rather than the conservative candidate.
Endorsing a Liberty grabber is contrary to the beliefs of many, perhaps most, TEA Party supporters.
Do you disagree with me about that?
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