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Do Walmart and others promote declining values?
TheCypressTimes.com ^ | 03/12/2010 | Ken Lowder

Posted on 03/12/2010 1:33:28 PM PST by Patriot1259

Do Walmart and other retailers support the destruction of American values through their lack of willingness to stop shoplifting? How much is their lack of enforcement costing you and me? The answer appears to be YES and it's costing us BILLIONS. Last year Walmart reported that they had lost $3 billion due to theft of products. That's just at Walmart. Most retailers reported losses in the same range for their market share. Given the poor economy I would expect this year's losses to be much higher.

How is this happening? Two reasons: 1. Once a shoplifter makes it outside, they are safe from store employees trying to detain them. 2. When was the last time they asked you for an ID when making a credit card purchase?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: economy; shoplifting; values; walmart
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To: Minn
You were saying ...

Of course it does. If you're a thief, it makes you less likely to try to use the stolen card at a retail outlet. That's the whole point.

You miss the point of what I wrote in that previous post that you're responding to. I'm saying that "in practice" -- in the ways things are right now, and from what I've seen (directly myself) -- it makes no difference at all (at that point in time of using it).

Now..., where it will make a difference, if you're a crook and use it illegally, then you'll have the bank, the cops, investigators and the legal system after you. So, I'm not saying that using it illegally is not a problem at all... what I'm saying is that these things about signing it, what your signature shows, about I.D. -- all that really makes no difference at all -- in how people use their cards, everyday.

They can sign the cards with just one line, a straight line and they'll take it. You can sign it with a wavy line. And also, try signing it sometime with a different name... you'll never get anyone bothering you with that.

And as for I.D., they're not supposed to take I.D. and if someone asks me for I.D., I'll tell them that, too and I'll complain to the credit card company and report that company for doing it.

Again, as I was saying, it makes no difference because you can practically do anything with the credit card, as far as how the companies now treat it.

41 posted on 03/12/2010 7:18:19 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: GreaterSwiss; Cletus.D.Yokel

Wrong. We are required to ask for ID no matter if your card is signed or not. And we can be disciplined for not asking, especially if that sucker turns out to be stolen. Also If your card is stolen and somehow recovered by the credit card company and you have not signed it...YOU are liable for all charges. Read your contract. I sign my name and write See ID on my cards but most people don’t even look at my ID when I hand it to them with the card.


42 posted on 03/12/2010 8:01:12 PM PST by mom aka the evil dictator
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To: Star Traveler

Please come in and report the Federal Government when we ask for your ID. I get tired of stupid people who never have there ID on them.


43 posted on 03/12/2010 8:10:05 PM PST by mom aka the evil dictator
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To: mom aka the evil dictator
You were saying ...

Please come in and report the Federal Government when we ask for your ID. I get tired of stupid people who never have there ID on them.

I always have my I.D. on me, but I know I don't have to show it when using the credit card, and I won't show it... :-) ...

That's per the credit card companies rules and regulations. Now, that doesn't stop some stupid stores from making it some kind of policy in their stores and telling their employees that they need to request it, but I'll go to the manager and make them call the credit card company and per the agreement with the credit card company (if the store still wants to keep that credit card usage) they will tell the store to stop asking for I.D.

I've never been absolutely required to show it and I've gone to managers and I've reported stores, too... :-)

44 posted on 03/12/2010 8:42:45 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
You miss the point

I'm a world class point misser.

45 posted on 03/12/2010 9:04:34 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Star Traveler

Then I would be required to ask you for another form of payment. We are required to ask for your ID. Headquarters sends us a memo about 4 times a year that we all have to sign acknowledging we have read and understand. And the memo says that the credit card companies require us to do this. Like I said, come in and please report us. I sure won’t get fired. My manager will just read you the party line and good luck with Washington DC. Course knowing the government we probably have special rules.


46 posted on 03/12/2010 9:09:39 PM PST by mom aka the evil dictator
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To: mom aka the evil dictator

The manager wouldn’t be talking to Washington DC, but to the credit card company, as I would be the one reporting the store for violation of the agreement with the credit card company. Believe me, that works every time... :-)


47 posted on 03/12/2010 9:33:18 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: suthener
I used to cooperate with those stupid door checks, until I had a pair of thugs who were insistent that I accompany them to the back room as opposed to simply reviewing my receipt where I stood.

I refused, at which point they got physical attempting to restrain me at which time I advised them I was carrying a concealed handgun, the situation went downhill from there.

Now I just ignore them, confront me in the parking lot at your risk.

48 posted on 03/12/2010 10:22:41 PM PST by WalterSobchak2012
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To: Minn

A lot of the lock and key stuff at drug stores is tied to pseudo-ephedrine, which the government decided was too easy to turn into meth so they put a limit on how much people can buy, which means of course all purchases must be tracked. I hope the pinheads who came up with that plan develop horrible allergies, it’s really annoying knowing that if my nose runs too much the DEA will kick my door in.


49 posted on 03/13/2010 7:27:31 AM PST by discostu (wanted: brick, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Star Traveler

Please call your credit card company and tell them that the Federal government requires you to show ID. I am not arguing with you that you have done it many times. I am just saying we are required to check your ID and I am sure the credit card company will not be wanting to lose our business. We just tell customers, “Sorry, you must show ID or produce another form of payment. If you don’t, we cannot sell to you.”


50 posted on 03/13/2010 9:13:41 AM PST by mom aka the evil dictator
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To: mom aka the evil dictator

I shall do, when I buy something from them, as I do when I buy from other merchants like that. :-)


51 posted on 03/13/2010 9:52:11 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Thank you. I would really like to stop asking for ID. Now if you write “ask for ID” on the back, then you had better have some ID. Other than that...whatever. I have to ask for ID on a check, business or otherwise, credit cards and debit cards. I don’t mind the idea of protecting the customer and the business but sometimes it gets a little extreme. Now if I know you and am willing to take personal responsibility for you, I can write PK on the back of your check or my copy of your receipt. Not too many people I am willing to do that for. Lol


52 posted on 03/13/2010 12:25:14 PM PST by mom aka the evil dictator
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To: mom aka the evil dictator

I hope you did note that I haven’t been talking about checks... :-)


53 posted on 03/13/2010 12:29:07 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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