Posted on 02/23/2010 10:12:38 AM PST by Sergeant Tim
"Ronald Reagan would never have loosely generalized about conservatives and the Republican Party because like a surgeon, like a real thinker, and like an activist, he wanted the distinctions to be known, he wanted the distinctions to be clear, he wanted to promote our principles, and he wanted to contrast them with those who either had no principles or were promoting something else. Carpet-bombing the Republican Party takes out an awful lot of good people, too many good people." -- Mark Levin, February 22, 2010
Mark Levin took great issue last night with "carpet-bombing" the Republican Party:
Mark had some advice for the bomber:
"It is the spending, stupid." Yes, we get it; this grass roots movement of ours gets it and seems determined to vote out of office the offenders. Yet just reading one label, i.e. Republican or Tea Party, and applying a value to candidates is very risky.
In Nevada, a man who few ever heard of and who has not been endorse by two substantial tea party groups there, is polling at 11%; his candidacy might return Harry Reid to the Senate.
Rand Paul in Kentucky is polling far ahead of his nearest opponent to become the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate. He sounds remarkably like his father, Congressman Ron Paul, on national defense. Rand Paul speaks about the "military-industrial complex." He derides McCain-Feingold yet proposes he own set of restrictions on campaign contributions.
Rand Paul is also factually incorrect about both our invasion of Afghanistan and what constitutes a formal declaration of war. He quotes Michael Scheuer saying, "One of the mistakes we made in Afghanistan was not that we invaded but that we waited a month and a half to go in." Paul expands from that by saying, "So there might have been a reason the President could have sent Special Forces in secretly within a few days and I think that could have been something that would have been justified. However, the truth is it took us a month and a half to get into Afghanistan and there is no reason why there should not have been a declaration of war vote in Congress." Here are the facts: our Special Forces began crossing the border into Afghanistan before dawn there on September 12, 2001; we began invading Afghanistan in force on October 7, 2001; and Congress has 'declared war' more times without using those words that it has used them during our history. In addition, Congress voted in favor (including Ron Paul) of an 'Authorization to Use Military Force' on September 18, 2001 and it did not limit the President to merely invading Afghanistan:
That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.
If that was not a declaration of war, then two Presidents have violated Congress's intent in Afghanistan. Yet Congress has since authorized more than 800 billion dollars and nearly 1,000 U.S. troops have died fighting there. It is clear to me that Congress declared war and Rand Paul would be a 'chip off the old block' as a U.S. Senator.
Voters beware!
Neither is Rush. Rush, Beck, others have done more to educate the uneducated American than any GOP politician. Levin is a threat to conservatism. He’s the nut. What there aren’t enough targets in the GOP for everyone?
Pshaw. Levin, the Lenin of Right Radio.
This doesn’t need to be done. We’re not children. If Beck tries leading his audience to a third party, the jig is up. If he doesn’t, then he’s helping our cause greatly. We’re perfectly capable of figuring out what he’s up to.
What Mark is doing is personal, unnecessary and ugly.
What I am against is parade jumping capitalists, those who jump in front of them, claim pure hearts and good intentions, and then sell you snake oil.
I’ve never heard himself describe himself as a “centrist”. Not once.
I’m not wishy washy.
I want the GOP to be conservative.
The GOP is not immune from criticism from conservatives.
The GOP elite/establishment has been and is PART OF the problem.
Those who say otherwise must be... what did the other poster say, “defending” their bank accounts?? or turf.
Levin should be attacking liberals and RINO’s. Attacking a conservative is not productive and does not further conservatism.
You will also notice I have not attacked Levin, snarky asides aside.
He’s on free radio, nobody has to pay anything.
“What he’s up to.”
Jealousy? Pure unadulturated jealousy. "That should be me on that show! Me I tells ya".
That’s what I said. And?
Of what?
Excuse me, the last time I checked, Mark Levin was the biggest attacker of Glenn Beck. I suppose you're calling him a RINO, right? And tell me, when has he ever attacked Ann Coulter or Sarah Palin? Never! You should think before you write!
“Both parties are the same comments are nonsense and like Mark says destructive to this Conservative ascendency.”
Isolating FDR, Carter, and Obama, I might agree. But if anyone can tell me how Nixon (”Only Nixon could go to China”) and Bush (the “Compassionate Conservative”) were better than Truman and Clinton (not The Clinton That Could Have Been [see: Hillarycare], but the Clinton that was), I’ll eat my hat. A tax cut here and a SCOTUS justice there (whose nominations, remember, Reagan and Bush I occassionally fumbled) just aren’t enough.
“That said, when was the last time you saw Rush, Hannity putting themselves in front of a chalkboard, as some sort of educator?”
Ah, I see, using a chalkboard means he’s posing as an academic. Right. It’s not just a wacky prop. He’s SERIOUS about it.
I am sure Beck would not send trolls to anonymously comment here on FR.
“Is Beck a Republican?”
No. Voted for McCain, though.
“Beck, the college dropout (oh wait, he didn’t bother taking that first class) couldn’t hold Mark Levin’s jock strap,”
Uh, please use a different measuring stick than a college degree.
The wealthiest man in the world is a college dropout.
Rush Limbaugh went to college for one semester.
Clearly, the Congress did authorize the Use of Force -- no bones about it. But be that as it may, I just think that a straight-up Declaration that "A State of War is formally Declared to exist" simply leaves opponents a lot less wiggle room, IMHO.
Personally, I would consider that to be a good thing.
I suppose I could just go with the flow on FR if I just fell in line and attacked Beck since he is a raving nut... no I mean I hate Levin.. he is a danger to America .... or is it Hannity I'm thinking of? Ya... he doesn't do near as much good as the REEEEEEAL conservatives like the ones here on FR.... or it is the craaaazy Rush Limbaugh that is the worst? Ya thats it! None of these people do anything worth while in educating people about the principles of Liberty! Or is it only one of them is right and the rest are nut-jobs?
Im not sure.... I cant keep up with all the whiney perfect REEEEAAAL conservatives here on who to despise in the conservative talk radio community.
“I think he calls himself a ‘centrist libertarian’ (whatever the heck that means).”
I’m gonna teeter out on a limb and say it means he’s (according to the traditional political spectrum) on the left wing of the libertarian movement. That is, he is further to the center than most libertarians. Which, if you’re keeping track, has him bordering Republicans on the right. In other words, a mainstream libertarian.
Yeah, he planted me here 7 years ago... just in case he might ever need backup. I’ve been maintaining deep cover ever since.
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