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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: American Constitutionalist

“You ever see that movie with Kurt Russel ( USED CARS ) when the guy drives off the lot in a station wagon and the back door falls off ?”

I once saw an Art Grindel ad where Art was jumping on the hood of the car and a fender fell off. He tore the price sign in two and yelled he’d sell it for half price.


461 posted on 02/24/2010 8:04:33 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: patlin

I suspect that there is a similar discrepancy with Obama’s other numbers, SSN and SSSN. Others have reported on Obama’s SSNs. A year ago there was a report of Obama’s Selective Service Number (SSSN), on Deb Schussel’s and other sites including here.. The number seemed way out of any sequence by year, that is if treated as a sequence serialization, his SSSN is very recent.

I and others contacted the Selective Service about this, and they claimed that the SSSN’s are randomized, not serialized. But that doesn’t make any process management sense. I suspect they lied.


462 posted on 02/24/2010 8:05:00 AM PST by bvw
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To: john mirse
once we see Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate, we won't see a doctor's name or a hospital name on it

Sure we will, just as soon as the ink dries.

463 posted on 02/24/2010 8:06:19 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: BP2

I’m so tired hearing about Saul Alinsky. Haven’t you people ever read a book in your life? How about Mark Twain? I think he was like uh, way before Mr. Alinsky:

From Mark Twain:

“Will a day come when the race will detect the funniness of these juvenilities and laugh at them—and by laughing at them destroy them? For your race, in its poverty, has unquestionably one really effective weapon—laughter. Power, Money, Persuasion, Supplication, Persecution—these can lift at a colossal humbug,—push it a little— crowd it a little—weaken it a little, century by century: but only Laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of Laughter nothing can stand.
- “The Chronicle of Young Satan,” Mysterious Stranger Manuscripts

and:

“Laughter which cannot be suppressed is catching. Sooner or later it washes away our defences, and undermines our dignity, and we join in it — ashamed of our weakness, and embittered against the cause of its exposure, but no matter, we have to join in, there is no help for it.”
- “Indiantown”

Quit skulking around in the bushes and poking your head up once in a while to see what the “secret plan” is. You know why I laugh at this stuff??? Here’s why:

IT’S FRIGGIN HILARIOUS! IT’S FUNNY AS ALL GET OUT!

And you know what? If I look at this stuff again, I’ll be ROTFLMAO again! Orly going to the U.N.? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!The Kenyan fake birth certificates? Haaaaaaaa!

parsy, who says, “C’mon. Loosen up, Dude. Step back from this stuff and take a good look at it! Then, laugh your *ss off! It’ll do you good.


464 posted on 02/24/2010 8:08:02 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: bgill
" 2) the dudes who broke into the passport office were either there out of curiosity or were ordered by the puppet masters to do the deed. That event can give him the out he needs in that his application and whatever else was destroyed by the guys. And, ya know, we shouldn't jump to conclusions as to why the msm and police apparently have ignored any investigation on the one who was murdered. "

I don't see it as a " way out " for him....
So ? how is he going to explain his foreign travels without a US passport ?
If anything, it's a silent admission that something is not right.

Isn't there a saying we say of legal matters in a court of LAW ?

It goes something like this :
It should be " PROVEN " beyond a shadow of " DOUBT " ....
And in his case ? there is a whole lot of " DOUBT " that needs to be resolved.
465 posted on 02/24/2010 8:08:24 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Hawaii was also a state for a whopping 3 years when Obama was born, procedures changed a lot in the 50 since. Not like Texas hasn’t been a state for what, near 200 or so? Yea.


466 posted on 02/24/2010 8:11:51 AM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: bvw
I and others contacted the Selective Service about this, and they claimed that the SSSN’s are randomized, not serialized. But that doesn’t make any process management sense. I suspect they lied.

As one who deals with sequence numbers daily and how they are automatically spit out by the computer, I suspect you have arrived at the logical & correct conclusion.

467 posted on 02/24/2010 8:13:35 AM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: Danae
" It still doesn’t explain the three day difference. If its dated the 8th it was done the 8th. If it says the 11th, it was done three days later. They were not processed on the same day. 3 days is a long time."

And that's the 72 hour question.
468 posted on 02/24/2010 8:19:17 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: BP2
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

They enjoy attention so ignore them. A shunning is in order for the lot of them here.

469 posted on 02/24/2010 8:21:27 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
How does that “prove” anything?

The passage from the nomination documents I cited in my previous post to you shows the DNC recognized there are Constitutional requirements that must be met for a person to qualify as President. That should have been obvious to you given the specific reference to the Constitution.

That passage also points out the fact it is not incumbent upon people to prove a person is eligible to be President but instead is incumbent on the individual to prove he or she meets the Constitutional requirements in Article 2 Section 1.
470 posted on 02/24/2010 8:30:52 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Danae; BuckeyeTexan

Almost 165, minus the Confederate years.

Off topic: Texas Independence Day next Tuesday, declared independence from Mexico on March 2, 1836. Alamo fell 4 days later, we finished the job 6 weeks later, sent Santa Anna and his troops home and charted a better course.

We need to remember and rekindle that determination.

Buckeye, you need to drop your first name, quit apologizing for Barry0, and cross that line Travis drew in the sand.

And if you don’t know what I’m talking about, you need to drop your second name.


471 posted on 02/24/2010 8:32:55 AM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: Jedidah

I am sorry, I was being somewhat flippant, I know better than to do that regarding Texas! My apologies.


472 posted on 02/24/2010 8:35:06 AM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Its my breathing. And my leg. And other stuff. I figure I will heal. It’ll just take a few years. But, I will hit my last 15-20 years (if God gives it) in stride. But thank you so much for asking.

parsy, who says the disagreements are how we all learn from each other. If I get too closed minded, give me a good swift KITA!


473 posted on 02/24/2010 8:38:45 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Danae

Danae — what are you apologizing for? I just felt the need to spout off. I’m really getting tired of Buckeye and his apologetics.


474 posted on 02/24/2010 8:40:28 AM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: Danae

HDOH has its own rules to follow and can not used “implied consent” to release them. its not like a search warrant. For example, Reagan got shot and waved from his hospital bed. So, we all know he got shot and is in hospital for a gunshot wound. Doesn’t mean the hospital can release his medical records to whoever. Reagan, though, can give a copy to whoever he wants.

parsy, who hasn’t been shot, yet, but has had Close Encounters of the Third Kind with cast iron skillets


475 posted on 02/24/2010 8:43:29 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal; All

Oh, I read Langhorne's works, too.

"A man is never more truthful
than when he acknowledges himself a liar. "

EVEN in this regard, Obama and supporters like yourself FAIL.


476 posted on 02/24/2010 8:51:45 AM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Danae; Jedidah

This Texan didn’t take offense either.

Next Tuesday, this household will be honoring one of those who sent Santa Anna packin’, grandpappy Sion, with some hot muffins fresh from the oven using the old family recipe.


477 posted on 02/24/2010 8:57:05 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Jedidah

I’ve never apologized for Obama. Not ever. Never defended him. Never praised him. Unplug from the CBC, dude. It’s destroying your capacity for individual thought.


478 posted on 02/24/2010 8:57:30 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: BP2

Then you know better, and there is no excuse for you pulling out that Alinsky smear whenever somebody tee-hees at Orly, or something you don’t agree with.

Now have you done your laughing homework like I asked?

parsy, who feels like he is raising kids again....


479 posted on 02/24/2010 9:08:57 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Danae; BP2; LucyT; Beckwith; mojitojoe; Red Steel; butterdezillion
Have you stopped to consider that perhaps Barry Soetoro had a couple of amendments to his vital records, one of which may have occurred during his time in the IL Senate race ... a change of ‘named father’, to cite Frank Marshall Davis as the father? Barry knew years ago that the natural born citizen clause required place of birth and U.S. Citizenship of both parents. The Internet posted CoLB is a fraudulent representation since the date it was supposedly released from vital records is not on file in DOH and the image does not included ‘amended’. The forgery may have removed amended before making the Internet image, but the particulars of amending are what interest me. I suspect Barry's ‘embarrassment’ is his changing parentage to Davis after having put his approval on Ayers’ ghost written garbage for him. Of course, said amendment becomes very problematic beyond mere embarrassment, especially since he has perjured himself and lie repeatedly to the people who made the mistake of electing him.
480 posted on 02/24/2010 9:11:23 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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