And you entertain us greatly.
Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion
I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".
The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).
There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).
There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.
Every time he speaks, he lies.
If they won and all, how come they’re not here doing the victory dance?
I wonder if one of them is yelling at the other, if they are indeed two people, or if their/his boss is yelling at them.
“Their knowledge is stolen by illusion...”
Excellent points.
Steve Eddy/punkster is probably getting his skull stove in/seat warmed by boot right about now.
Koyaan = MichaelMichael = EnderWiggins = Punkster.
Probably why he seemed to keep switching handles.
One would go quiet, and the other would talk.
Except on the one day, that was as if multiple people were signed in at the same time.
Also they seemed schizophrenic/multiple personality that day.
It ticks me off everytime a lefty comes here and tries to play us. He may be the person that made the fake BC. So what? There was no “gotcha” there. And one of them has been banned repeatedly.
Amateur, huh? I'll wager I know more about the eligibility issue than you do. And you obviously haven't researched my posting history at FR. I've added plenty to the discussions on this subject. And most of the freepers, most of whom have been here a lot longer than YOU, on my ping list are interested in making sure the facts are correct in these discussions and not letting Internet rumors and untruths be perpetuated on FR.
Sure, we sometimes have some fun at the expense of some of the more delusional birthers, but typically the hate comes from the birthers toward us, not the other way around.
And I value FR so much that I promote it off site and support it financially every month and have since I joined. How much have you contributed to support FR?
Hmmm.
Don’t worry, DJ. I’m well acquainted with all the Birther fallback theories. That fact that there are so many of them (and that several of them are mutually contradictory) shows that you understand yourself how miserably each of them fails in and of their own merits.
If this really was about defending the Constitution for you, you would have only needed one.
Who’s been previously banned ?
Look, Ender is back, and he’s wearing his Rahm tutu!
Dance for us pet troll!
Punkster/steve eddy/michaelmichael/enderwiggins/koyaan.
I see ..
I understand the boss knows the re-treads.
Just a reminder about how you "always" tell us the truth... West Point grad. A blast from the past:
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He said that there were no copies of old procedures that he knew of, so he could not show me anything from the 60s. He said that nobody there had been around long enough to remember for sure what they did in the 60s. He did say that until the registration system went on-line (first at the Department of Health and then connected to hospital “ADT” systems a few years later) there were actually different procedures used to get the records from different outer islands at the same time, and they were not finally standard until some time after he arrived.
I asked him where the numbers were assigned, and he said it depended. For a number of years, hospitals with busy oby/gn practices got preassigned blocks of numbers from the state so that they wouldn’t duplicate each other. For a while before he got there the state actually issued hospitals the stamps that had those blocks of numbers in them, but that became too expensive, so they went back to just assigning the blocks.
Once the paperwork got to Honolulu, the numbers were entered into the state ledgers and the certificates filed. When I asked him if there was a local number too, he said no. The state number was the local number, so you could right to the hospital and find the same record under the same number.
The correspondence, excerpted from the Hawaiian DoH.
In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. HISTORICALLY, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i),and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.
HISTORICALLY, most often the “date accepted” and the “date filed” is the same date as the majority of births occur on O’ahu (the island with the largest population in our state). In the past, when births were recorded on paper they may have been accepted at a health office on an island other than O’ahu, such as Kaua’i. The paper record would then need to be sent to O’ahu to have a file number placed on it, and the filed date would then be sometime later (as you know, the state of Hawai’i is comprised of multiple islands with miles of water in between). The electronic age has changed this process significantly, and it was determined some time ago that one date would suffice.
Janice Okubo
Hawaii State Department of Health
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The Hawaiian DoH didn't assign numbers to hospitals or give out pre-stamp birth certificates with the control numbers on them at anytime as they where added at the MAIN office after the paper work was completed. And BuckT, no nurse at the hospitals acted as a local registrar stamping dates in the date filed box since that was when the birth certificates were RECEIVED at the DoH.
You've been caught in a lie Ed WiggOut.
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Ring a bell?
We have all been graciously allowed to play with this tattered troll carcass for several days.
Sorry Wiggy. Your boy has more than just one issue. Go cry elsewhere.
Koyaan/MichaelMichael/Punkster.
Yes. And he lets us play with them now and then.
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