On "Birthers," Heed "Radio Patriot," Not Glenn Beck

The logical conclusion is that there is SOMETHING on the document that Obama does not want to share with the American people. Even the Beckster should realize that!

Glenn Beck is an Obama critic, but he's not a "birther" and ridicules "birthers" as the dumbest of the dumb and even helpful to Obama. "Radio Patriot" Andrea Shea King, a "birther," knows better.

World Net Daily's Drew Zahn, "Glenn Beck on birther issue: 'Dumbest thing I've ever heard'" (January 4, 2009) (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=120992):

"On the air today, popular radio host Glenn Beck mocked 'birthers' and claimed there is a concerted campaign to get those questioning Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility onto the airwaves – a strategy Beck said would actually benefit Obama.

"'There's always games being played behind the scenes at a talk radio show,' Beck said. 'Rush has always called them seminar callers. But instead of being coy with the seminar callers or with you, I'm just going to expose the game that is going on. Today there is a concerted effort on all radio stations to get birthers on the air.'

"'I have to tell you, are you working for the Barack Obama administration?' Beck scoffed. 'I mean, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.'"

This morning on "Fox & Friends" there was a report that President Franklin Delano Roosevelt really died of a brain tumor, not a stroke, and his brain tumor was concealed for political purposes.

Beck calls radical Obamaton and ACORN 8 leader his "Rosa Parks," so his own capacity for "dumbness" is not in doubt.

Beck just proved that again this year by joining the big dog at Fox News, Bill O'Reilly, in mocking the "birthers."

I don't know where Obama was born, but I believe that "birthers" are right to respect the United States Constitution and demand proof that Obama is eligible to be President and the burden of proof on that issue belongs on Obama.

In 2008 John McCain quickly produced his birth certificate, but Obama still has not done so.

Obama's refusal to produce his birth certificate is NOT proof that he was born in Kenya, but it IS a strong sign that he's hiding SOMETHING.

"The ongoing dialogue then spun off into ridicule as Beck caricatured those who question the sitting president's eligibility with straw-man arguments reminiscent of jibes made by Obama's apologists in other news outlets.

"Beck defined birthers as people who believe Obama was born in Kenya or other foreign country, was raised as a Manchurian candidate and somehow brainwashed Hillary Clinton into not exposing his fraud. According to Beck's running joke, birthers believe someone – maybe Obama's KGB 'control' – preemptively placed Obama's birth announcement in 1961 Hawaiian newspapers with a 'roadmap' of getting an African man into office.

"As for Obama producing a long-form birth certificate to actually prove his place of birth, Beck questioned, 'Why do that when these people ["birthers"] are so discrediting themselves?'"

But, as Zahn put it: "The 'certification of live birth' posted online and widely touted as 'Obama's birth certificate' does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same 'short-form' document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true 'long-form" birth certificate – which includes information such as the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny."

Scrutiny of Obama (in sharp contrast to Sarah Palin) is something that the liberal media establishment avoided and Fox News did not do nearly well enough.

Perhaps Beck and O'Reilly mock the "birthers" because they too would be embarrassed if the true "long form" birth certificate were made public and contained any significant information that would bear on either Obama's eligibility or suitability to be President of the United States. (It was not until long after Obama was inaugurated that those two Fox News hosts focused on The New York Times killing an Obama/ACORN expose on October 21, 2008, even though I reported it on the Internet the next day.)

"The radio host further argued that by distracting the public from actionable issues, 'birthers' have become 'a dream come true' for Obama, an ideal situation akin to the fantasies of adolescent boys after Hollywood bombshells.

"'Barack Obama looks at the birthers as Megan Fox,' Beck said, referring to the star and sex symbol of the popular 'Transformers' films."

Message to Beck: As a faithful student of community organizer Saul Alinsky, Obama has followed his rules for radicals. Like a faithful Alinskyite, you too ridicule the "birthers." But ridicule is not a substitute for Obama's original birth certificate.

"'Birthers'...reflect a far greater diversity of opinion than is assumed by Beck's characterization. For example, while the term has been applied to anyone questioning Obama's eligibility to serve as president under the Constitution's 'natural born citizen' clause, many 'birthers' don't doubt Obama's Hawaiian birth, but instead take issue with his father's foreign citizenship.

"While other top radio hosts, including Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Michael Savage, Mark Levin and Lou Dobbs, have all said unequivocally and publicly that the Obama eligibility issue is legitimate and worthy, a few – including Beck and fellow Fox TV host Bill O'Reilly – have taken the position that the issue is, in O'Reilly's words, 'bogus.' Both Beck and O'Reilly cite the contemporaneous appearance of birth announcements in two Honolulu newspapers as prima facie evidence Obama was born in Hawaii and 'birthers' are conspiracy nuts.

"However, what neither talk host realizes is that newspaper birth announcements are not placed by parents phoning their local paper with the good news that they had a child. Rather, as WND has reported based on interviews with the two Hawaii papers involved, the Obama newspaper birth announcements stemmed from information automatically sent to the papers by Hawaii's Department of Health upon the state's issuance of a 'Certification of Live Birth,' which, as WND has also reported, is considered insufficient on its own to positively document the president's birthplace.

"Many people remain unaware that a child does not even have to be born in Hawaii to receive a 'Certification of Live Birth – that's the 'short form' that provides no hospital name, delivering physician or any of the other information that traditionally appears on a legitimate birth certificate. And yet the 'short form' COLB is the one and only piece of evidence the White House has cited in defending its assertion Obama was born in Hawaii.

"Hawaiian law specifically allows 'an adult or the legal parents of a minor child' to apply to the health department and, upon unspecified proof, be given the birth document.

"The only requirement for proof cited in the law doesn't address the birth of the child either, just 'that the legal parents of such individual while living without Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.'

"Demand the truth by joining the petition campaign to make President Obama reveal his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate!

"And since Obama's long-form birth certificate remains locked away from public view and sealed by privacy laws, no brainwashing device – such as Beck alluded to in his program – would be necessary to keep Hillary Clinton from discovering the contents of Obama's original birth certificate."

The logical conclusion is that there is SOMETHING in the document that Obama does not want to share with the American people.

"Obama's birth papers...aren't the only piece of the sitting president's past that Obama has refused to reveal.

"As WND has reported, other documentation not yet available includes Obama's kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records and his adoption records."

Who really thinks there's nothing there that might reasonably influence voters if known?

Beck, who last year publicly stated that Obama is racist, now wants to challenge Obama only on his policies and actions.

Beck: "Why don't we go after the things that are provable, after the things that actually you need to stop right now? And if you want to argue, then let's argue based in fact, based on things that are provable and true. And what do you say? Do you want to argue the Constitution? Good. Let's show the number of people in Congress and in the Senate that don't even read the Constitution – can't tell you right now if healthcare is even in the Constitution. Let's talk to the scholars. Let's talk to the average Joe that understands this isn't in the Constitution. Let's argue the Constitution on the laws and the systems that they are building today. Instead of arguing the Constitution and whether or not he was born in America, why don't we argue the constitutionality of a little known thing called czars and the power that these people have?"

Second, we need to expose the truth about the Obama/ACORN relationship that helps explain why Obama appointed all those "czars."

Third, Marcel Reid is an ardent Obama supporter with personal and radical political agendas and not a "Rosa Parks.

"Radio Patriot" Andrea Shea King surely is disappointed with the Beckster ridiculing "birthers."

"Radio Patriot," in "The Lamestream Media Is Chewing Towels" (December 4, 2009) (http://radiopatriot.wordpress.com/2009/12/04/the-lamestream-media-is-chewing-towels/):

"What toute la monde is chewing dishtowels about this morning ranges from 'Sarah’s a birther!' to 'It’s a reasonable question'. But it’s one that the mainstream media won’t — can’t — touch with a ten foot pole.

"As my show producer Dave said, they’re in quandary — “They can’t take this opportunity to smash Palin once again for fear of reporting on the birth certificate story. They’ve got the club in their hand but they can’t use it.”

"Pinch is half insane this morning. If Palin had come out and said ‘I believe in flying saucers’, they’d report that in a hot second, but they can’t touch this — you know they’re banging their heads on the edge of their desks. They can’t write this story — cannot take this opportunity to smash Palin. This birth certificate/eligibility issue is a no-fly zone.

"And they like to paint her as stupid? I’m laughing out loud. Dumb like a fox. She’s placed this issue squarely on the front page of controversy. Where it needs to be."

"Anyone who has read my blogs or tuned in to my radio program knows I’ve been asking ‘who the heck is Barack Hussein Obama‘ ever since he first appeared on the national radar screen. And here’s why:

His childhood mentor was Frank Davis Marshall, who spied on U.S. military installations in Hawaii for the Soviet Union; edited a communist newspaper; authored pronographic novels; and wrote poetry in praise of Joseph Stalin.

BHO promised t[r]ansparency in government, but has spent over a million dollars in legal fees hiding information that would determine his Constitutional eligibility to be President.

He has produced no legitimate birth certificate which would indicate his place of birth, the attending physician, and any other pertinent information found on your or my birth certificate.

He is a president who refused to intercept or inspect a North Korean ship virtually certain to be carrying weapons of mass destruction to Burma.

A president who wants to cancel all missile defense while rogue nations are developing long-range ballistic missiles. An American president who blames the violence in Mexico on America.

A Commander in Chief who claims to have been unaware that Air Force One was taken on a terrifying, low-level 'photo-op' over Manhattan. And do we really know who was on-board that aircraft during the flyover joyride?

A president who berates American CEOs for flying in private planes at private expense on company business, but whose wife spends hundreds of thousands of tax payer dollars flying to Paris for a shopping spree.

A president who promised a transparent administration but requires all questions be screened before impromptu appearances.

A man who freely admits his energy policies are designed to bankrupt the American coal industry.

A president who has presided over the loss of 14.7 + million jobs and whose energy policy will cause the loss of another million jobs.

A president whose energy policy will increase the average American utility bills by over $2,000 a year, in the middle of the Great Recession.

A man about whom liberal journalist Tom Brokaw said, 'There’s a lot about him we don’t know'… just one week before the election. "But someone knows who he is.

Someone engineered legal challenges to all of his election opponents for the State Senate and had them disqualified.

Someone straightened and leveled his path to the U.S. Senate when a Democrat Judge made public the child custody records of his Republican opponent.

When he was a candidate for the U.S. Senate, someone arranged for him to speak at the 2004 Democratic National Convention

Someone saw to it that all of his records were sealed, at home and abroad Someone assembled the massive organization for his run for Presidency

"Someone knows all about him. And it for sure isn’t us. "But we’re disparaged as 'Birthers' by hypocrites who 'won’t go there', yet still ask why it is we know so little about Obama; Conspiracy Freaks by those who are simply ignorant of the facts; and 'Trolls”' by self-appointed 'betters' simply for asking."

Sadly, that is one of the most disappointing posts you’ve ever made at FR, that I’ve read! If a Russian child is born in Hawaii, is that child eligible to become president? ... Just being born in Hawaii doesn’t make one eligible according to the founders use of the term ‘natural born citizen’. But of course, if, like Beck, you just want to ridicule and insult folks, continue your ‘dumb’ remarks. And for goodness sakes, don’t do any digging into the facts of the issue when you can pass gas, er, judgment so readily.

There are several “spillers” so far. Just no one listens to them. His own grandmother said she was there when he was born,.......in Kenya. There are several African newspapers that have been captured before they were “cleansed” from the archives that declare him “Kenyan- born Obama”. The mayor of the town he was allegedly born in is building a shrine for him.

Now I'm not saying he was born in Kenya or not, but I am saying we already know for sure his father was born in Kenya and lived there most of his life. That makes Obama Jr. not eligible to be president. " Natural Born Citizen" is quite plain in law as both parents must be citizens of the US and the child must be born in America. Even if his mother wasn't married to Senior, his father will never be American. All he has to do is show a REAL Birth Certificate and all will be cleared up. IMHO, the courts don't want a revolution, so they throw up resistance to try to keep the republic together a little longer. I don't think they realize the damage that they are doing right now.

No... I’ve got no faith in gubmint to have vetted anybody. Obviously, the media utterly failed to vet this guy. He’s the ultimate empty suit.

Curiously enough, there isn’t actually a “vetting” process for Presidential candidates. Perhaps there should be.

Obama could whip out a gold-plated long form Hawaiian birth certificate signed by God himself and it won't make Taitz, Berg, Kreep, Apuzzo, Donofrio and the rest of this jolly gang go away.

Gary Kreep is the nuttiest of these, running wacky infomercials featuring an ex-con preacher and his truly creepy, midget self. Recall that Gary Kreep was also deeply involved in the Minuteman Project fundraising "irregularities" (to be charitable).

Center column 3rd paragraph down:

Source:
http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=071/llcg071.db&recNum=2
>! you have to turn to page 1291 !>

According to the the principal framer (John Armor Bingham )of the 14th amendment, particularly
the Citizenship and the Citizenship Clause (Defining who was a citizen of the United States) and by Mr. Obama’s
own admission he is not a Natural Born citizen.

“Bingham states: I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill],
which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the
jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language
of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen… . . – John Bingham in the United States House on March 9, 1866”

When the daly machine ran this guy they knew there was no vetting process and him being black made any accusations against him racist which scares all the pc crowd to death.There is just so much,too much lack of info on this guy that it is unbelievable to me and others I know.We were raising hell about this guy way before the election and it just fell on deaf ears.Never underestimate the brazeness of politicians of either party to screw the citizenry over.Just look what steele is trying to do now.What a pathetic rino he is.

...but I am saying we already know for sure his father was born in Kenya and lived there most of his life. That makes Obama Jr. not eligible to be president. " Natural Born Citizen" is quite plain in law as both parents must be citizens of the US and the child must be born in America.

Sorry, but that is simply not true. "Natural Born Citizen" is only used to distinguish it from a "Naturalized Citizen". The founders needed to exclude any British from the Presidency... to keep a loyalist brit from somehow getting elected and undoing the revolution. Beyond that... they didn't have some special sort of citizenship requirement. Apart from "naturalized" and "natural born" citizen there have never been any other "kinds" of "citizen".

Distanced from the eligibility issue, virtually all these characters have been involved in various scams, conspiracies and other shady dealings in their pasts. Yet they're held up as "patriots" to a small but vocal demographic of this forum. Embarrassing, really.

The grandfather clause in Article 2, Section 1 has nothing at all to do with the citizenship of the delegates’ parents. It has everything to do with the fact that when the delegates were born there was no United States - it didn’t come into existance in any form until 1776. Further it would not come into final form until after the Constitution was adopted. So, the grandfather clause was necesarry because virtually no citizen’s alive at the adoption of the Constitution would have been considered natural born without it. This whole attempt to redefine natural born citizenship to require that a child’s parents were both U.S. citizens is just silliness.

An interesting exchange I saved from Leo Donofrio’s blog.

“- naturalized citizen

[Ed. An alien comes to this country, follows the laws to become a citizen, swears an oath and becomes a naturalized citizen.]
***as provided by Law

- 14th Amendment native born citizen

[Ed. A person is born on US soil to alien parents who are legally and permanently domiciled here as in the Wong Kim Ark case (although the case should be overturned) - or a person is born on the soil of citizen parents... either child is a 14th Amendment citizen but only the child born of citizen parents is also nbc and as such the 14th amendment was not necessary to make him a citizen]
*** as provided by Law

- statutory citizen

[Ed. a person born abroad of at least one US citizen parent.]
**** as provided by Law

- natural born citizen

[Ed. born on the US soil to citizen parents]

****Natural Born Citizen is the ONLY one attained naturally by NO act of Law .. By Blood and Birthplace..”

Natural Born Citizen status only has relevence in regards to the qualifications for the Vice-President and the President of the United States. It is NOT A RIGHT it’s a REQUIREMENT. It was put in the Constitution to safeguard NATIONAL SECURITY.

What part of the following don’t you understand?

Quite clearly any human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States who owes allegiance to any foreign sovereignty can not be a “natural born citizen” which excludes such individuals from being eligible to be President of the United States of America.

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