Could this be the Birth Certificate submitted by Obama's Grandmother?

Western Journalism ^ | 12/11/2009 | borderraven

[BorderRaven]

See http://www.scribd.com/doc/24001567/Obama-BC-GMom

"In 1961, if a person was born in Hawaii but not attended by a physician or midwife, then all that was required was that one of the parents send in a birth certificate to be filed. The birth certificate could be filed by mail. There appears to have been no requirement for the parent to actually physically appear before “the local registrar of the district.” It would have been very easy for a relative to forge an absent parent’s signature to a form and mail it in. In addition, if a claim was made that “neither parent of the newborn child whose birth is unattended as above provided is able to prepare a birth certificate, the local registrar shall secure the necessary information from any person having knowledge of the birth and prepare and file the certificate.” (Section 57-8&9) I asked the Dept of Health what they currently ask for (in 2008) to back up a parent’s claim that a child was born in Hawaii. I was told that all they required was a proof of residence in Hawaii (e.g. a driver’s license [We know from interviews with her friends on Mercer Island in Washington State that Ann Dunham had acquired a driver’s license by the summer of 1961 at the age of 17] or telephone bill) and pre-natal (statement or report that a woman was pregnant) and post-natal (statement or report that a new-born baby has been examined) certification by a physician. On further enquiry, the employee that I spoke to informed me that the pre-natal and post-natal certifications had probably not been in force in the ‘60s." ... http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697

[Cyropaedia]

There were procedures in place that allowed a Hawaiian resident to register a birth at the DoH, -even if there had not been either a midwife or physician present. A parent could submit a signed statement that would be reviewed by some mid level bureaucrat, and then approved.

My guess is that there is no actual long form birth certificate; and the *source* document is a signed statement by the mother.

Like you said, that would destroy the narrative regarding Kopiolani Hospital. And prove that Barry's been lying to the country all along.

[Las Vegas Ron]

Ha! IB4TTSU (In before the trolls show up)

The second image has disappeared from the link, did anyone get a copy?

[Las Vegas Ron]

We have a complete unknown in the White House and we deserve answers to every question.

Indeed we do. You would think more people in this country would share the same common sense view but we are evidently living in a Twilight Zone.

Good post

[wintertime]

They still do. In the U.S. it is very unusual to have a home birth.

[Genoa]

I am beginning to wonder if suing Factcheck.org might be a better idea. Forcing them to prove that “FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate.”

The statement from FactCheck.org probably refers to a paper copy of the fake COLB, which they refer to as an original birth certificate.

[ODDITHER]

In order to believe one of the many versions that Obama has given over the years, you would have to believe that inspite of the fact that his mother was on welfare, his grandparents had no influence or wealth, he had poor grades, he took drugs he was able to get a full scholarship to Occidental and then to both Columbia and Harvard without the help of anyone?

In order to get a full scholarship to any of the universities he would have had to meet some criteria other than being half black. I think he applied as a foreigner at a time when scholarships were being given to students from Africa on a regular basis. Those were the only scholarships that would not have been based on grades. Even if he had a benefactor who was willing to pay his full way, his grades may not have allowed him to be accepted at that college without help. (IE Frank Marshall asking one of the University professors who was part of the underground.)

[melancholy]

Great post!

Being a ghoster, not a birther, I do believe that having a ghost for a president is a great insult to all Americans.

We need to see ALL 0b0z0’s records, especially education records that will reveal if he ever graduated. They will also reveal the brilliant One’s negative GPAs that go with his negative IQ!

Education records may very well reveal his foreign student status, Affirmative Action help and WHO paid for his “education.”

I believe this will be enough to throw him out, pop his long-form BC out of the vault if he wants to put up a defense or just resign and leave us alone.

I doubt any of this will happen unless the MSM picks up steam and expand the 0b0z0 jokes and pokes.

I can dream, can’t I?

[melancholy]

Thanks for the ping, Candor7.

I forgot to copy you on #27.

[wintertime]

Being a ghoster,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I **love** that expression! “Ghoster”! Yeah! You are absolutely right. Having a ghost for president is an insult.

An honest man would be **HONORED**to fully and promptly prove to any citizen in every way possible that they were a natural born citizen and eligible to occupy the office of president.

That Obama refuses to do this is an **INSULT** to all Americans.

By the way, I have a new tagline!

[maggief]

I agree with much of your post.

0bama probably was born in Hawaii but is not a natural born citizen due to his father’s status as a British subject.

Additionally, it’s my hunch that 0bama took advantage of his adopted Indonesian citizenship to gain entry and scholarships at Occidental, Columbia, Harvard, and perhaps even Punahou.

He may even studied overseas using his Indonesian/Kenyan/? passport. Russian intelligence have his passport information, as did the late key witness, Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr.

http://209.157.64.200/focus/news/2365625/posts?page=277

http://blog.kievukraine.info/2005/08/obama-part-of-group-locked-up-at.html

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2232588/posts?page=104

/justmy$.02

[melancholy]

Thank you for your post.

Good tagline. You inspired me to change mine!

I ain’t no have-gun-will-travel Chuck Connors! LOL

[danamco]

Including true journalism that passed away in 2008!!!

[danamco]

Every citizen of the United States, every voter in a presidential election, has a “tangible interest in the vital record.”

But 52% of cool aid Soetoro drinkers will say NO!!!

[danamco]

And Ann Coulter too!!!

[danamco]

There is still the unsolved Lucas Smith’s Kenyan “official” B.C.???

[danamco]

“normally” you have a few “After-Birthers” who will give you eloquent and “true” answers to your questions!!!

[danamco]

Now we can add a new title: “Birther-Ghosters”!!!

[Spunky]

"In the U.S. it is very unusual to have a home birth....

In the 1800 until the around the 1940's it wasn't to unusual.

[BorderRaven]

I think the Lucas Smith BC is enforced by the document signed by his grandmother, thus leaning toward a Kenya birth and a British or Kenya nationality.

[hennie pennie]

I agree with you, and I also believe that stringent laws about all of your points should be enacted. People who hold NATIONAL office should not expect much privacy, much less all the “privacy” BHO has gotten away with.