Posted on 11/23/2009 6:09:25 AM PST by jbjd
... Question: But given that Bob Bauer was willing to risk his license to practice law by tricking the court into taking judicial notice of misleading facts that, at best, could only establish Barack Obama was a “native” born citizen, anyway, and which notice he would have to message in order to dupe Americans into believing this meant, his client was also Constitutionally qualified for POTUS; why was he unwilling to risk his license on Nancy Pelosi’s Certifications, which explicitly stated, his client was Constitutionally qualified for the job of POTUS, judicial notice of which fact the court likely would have granted, and which notice more likely could have persuaded the public of the fact, his client was Natural Born? Answer: Because at that time, Nancy Pelosi was his client, too, and under the D.C. Rules of Professional Conduct, he could not exonerate one client facing a civil lawsuit by incriminating another in criminal election fraud.
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Judges and elected officials now seem to reply to every inquiry with "born in Hawaii, as proven by his Birth certificate posted on the web."
It is the triumph of incandescent bullshiite over reason. Alice in Wonderland, Lucus a non lucendo ... call it what you will, they are selling the hell out of it. Even some Freepers (heavens forfend!) don't seem to get that if this guy were born on the White House lawn on the 4th of July, he still could not be a "Natural Born Citizen."
The attorneys bringing these suits have made a circus out of this. Berg knew, or should have known, that a civil suit would only serve to obfuscate the real criminality involved here, so I question his tack, and I question the motives of each and every suit brought since then on the grounds that any attorney worth their salt knows that a defendant can NOT be forced to incriminate themselves in a court of law.
I question several of the plaintiffs as well. Especially the ones who are supposed Constitutional Scholars who know full well that the Constitution protects individuals from CRIMINAL discovery. No one can be forced to provide evidence against themselves.
The law is very clear. In order to insure the release of the documents sought, a criminal investigation must ensue. There is enough prima facae evidence that a crime has occurred. A criminal investigation would enable law enforcement to issue supoenas for these documents and the state of Hawaii would have no recourse but to release them.
The longer this goes on, the closer they get to pulling off the worst criminal act in the history of this country.
If they succeed in running out this clock, we might never get our country back and they will never pay the price for their treason.
I don’t blame the judges. They are following the law.
Judge Carter did the best he could to instruct the attorneys in the Keyes suit what they needed to do, but they ain’t having none of it. They have chosen publicity over necessity and I am really beginning to smell skunks all over the palce.
Then these attorney’s are criminals also. I cannot believe that even ONE criminal attorney in the United States can’t rise to the challenge. Given the right standing, as in a criminal offense, it should be clear sailing. WHY are they approaching it this way? WHY? What is really going on? I’m so vexed I can hardly take it. I can’t imagine how you all feel. CO
As documented by J. B. Williams in a post on the Canada Free Press web site, there were actually two different versions of that certification of his nomination that were signed by Pelosi. One of them contained the statement that Obama was constitutionally eligible to be POTUS and the other did not contain such a statement. Which document was sent to which states to get O's name printed on the respective ballots is not certain, but the fact that the two different versions were printed is most likely indicative of at least some uncertainty in the highest Dem ranks as to whether Obama was constitutionally qualified for POTUS.
I don’t blame the judges. They are following the law. Judge Carter did the best he could to instruct the attorneys in the Keyes suit what they needed to do, but they ain’t having none of it. They have chosen publicity over necessity and I am really beginning to smell skunks all over the palce. (sic)I agree about the lack of culpability on the courts. As to the rest of the comment, well, consider that, Attorney Berg evinced this footnote in Hollister almost a year ago but failed to discern what he had accomplished. Evidently, he just wanted to win the case, whatever that means. I have been urging people to use existing laws to expose the fraud, which means, filing complaints with state A'sG for swearing BO was qualified to get on the ballot without first ascertaining whether he was! But if you have read my blog, there is less 'sizzle' there than on those other sites. (One reader says, I am the 'steak.') But I have laid out the fraud - as far back as August 2008 I was advising people that the only way to stop BO would be to keep his name off the ballot - in detail. Simple yet elegant, as people have said.
Where have YOU been? JB Williams stole my work. Just consider this: how come it took him until September 2009 to notice these different Certifications that were issued in August 2008; and to post his plagiarized version of the umpteenth article I had just posted covering the subject?
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/if-drowning-out-opposing-facts-is-un-american-then-ignoring-unpleasant-facts-must-be-un-american-too/
P.S. CFP is a neo-Nazi rag promoting the right-wing rants of Douglas Hagmann, from Northeast Intelligence Network or “NEIN” as in, “No,” in German, get it?
What is really going on is the greatest looting of America than one could ever begin to imagine. It didn’t just start. It has been going on for decades, but it has culminated now. obama is a front man for this massive, massive wholesale robbery of our treasury, our resources, our private property, and the coverup of past criminal activity by our so-called elected officials from presidents to judges and minor bureaucrats they appointed.
The corruption in this government runs so deep and so wide, that I don’t really see any way out of this mess without eventual violence. That is what it is coming to and the fact that obama is a muslim is double jeopardy for us.
On one hand is the criminal enterprise, and on the other is the endgame after there is nothing more to be looted.
What will be left is a population weakened and subdued by this government to the point we can’t fight back. We are looking at imposed food shortages, government control over everything that we need to sustain our very existence. Our homes and properties are being confiscated.
I don’t know what the straw will be, but I can’t see this going on for much longer without a catastrophe.
I see no easy way out of this.
The laws that were broken are election laws; the chief law enforcement officer in the state is the AG. I have begun posting complaints of election fraud against various members of the D party, to state A’sG in applicable states, asking them to investigate. If more people filed these complaints then, state A’sG would have to listen.
You are absolutely right. I applaud you for making it as clear as a cloudless day. So tell me, HOW do we find ONE honest prosecutor? It seems that the fear factor is in full sway.
There are very powerful people behind these curtains.
This is an interesting situation.
People who posted regularly to Leo Donofrio’s site,
http://www.NaturalBornCitizen.wordpress.com/
queried all the states and discovered that ONLY the State of Hawaii received the signed and certified statement that Obama was constitutionally eligible to be POTUS.
To me this means that Democratic Party officials were playing CYA.
Why? Because they know damn well Obama isn’t a U.S. citizen.
Not quite. Leo, like so many other johnny-come-lately’s, missed the boat entirely. That is, 1) not having done the background research, he jumped on the bandwagon to ‘survey’ the 50 states, AFTER my work on the different Certifications caught on. Then, he points to the different wording in HI and immediately cries, foul. Ah, but, the wording in HI directly results from the law in HI. And he completely missed SC, because, not having done the research, he had no idea that, in SC, the party (as opposed to the candidate) must certify the candidates who want their names printed on the Presidential preference primary ballot must be eligible for the job (see SC complaint of election fraud on the front of my blog). Plus, in TX, Boyd Riche, the state D party Chair signed the Certification. Anyway, all of the Certifications contain the language, BO was “duly nominated.” And this means, nominated in accordance with DNC rules, which require all nominees for POTUS must be Constitutionally qualified for the job. So, whether those Certifications contained an added line specifically saying, he meets Constitutional qualifications, or whether that line was omitted, this points to a distinction without a difference.
But Leo wouldn’t know these underlying facts because he has not done the work. Instead, he tried to find relevance in piggy-backing onto work already well in progress.
Oh, and by the way, I don’t survey the states. I ask citizens of the states to do their homework (and get back to me with any questions). This means, they had to read their state laws; and contact their state officials. Because I am no one’s savior; rather, I am someone who can ferret out fraud and then explain the process to others, to empower them to save themselves. An informed educated citizenry is tyranny’s worst enemy.
Agreed.
What do you mean “evinced?” What evidence is there that Berg was ever in the case? He never appeared other than his “paralegal” signing documents for him, the one. apparently, who now runs his website. Colonel Hollister’s opening brief says he and his team have left the case. He does solicit funds based on it.
No, it isn’t. For example, BO signed the application to get his name printed on the AZ Presidential preference primary explicitly swearing, in writing, he is a NBC. This in part was why seeing those words “native” on his then new FTS web site, jumped out at me.
You are correct. I can’t remember everything.
Of course, your observation would have had more impact had you included a copy of the document you reference.
http://www.theobamafile.com/_exhibits/ObamaArizonaElectionNominationPapers.pdf
When Obama signed that document he committed perjury, also known as forswearing. It is the willful act of swearing a false oath or affirmation to tell the truth, whether spoken or in writing.
Perjury is considered a serious offense, as it can be used to usurp the power of the courts, resulting in miscarriages of justice. In the United States, for example, the general perjury statute under Federal law defines perjury as a felony and provides for a prison sentence of up to five years.
I am told, second hand, hearsay, that the certificate signed by VP Cheney, certifying his election by receiving a majority of the vote from the Electoral College, was modified from the form used in prior elections to delete the reference to his eligibility to serve.
I have known for some time about the state certificates for the ballot. Taken together, that is reasonable evidence of knowledge of his ineligibility and of a criminal conspiracy to manipulate the system to install him.
I am sorry to say it, but you, the tea party movement and others (the law suits, USSC, Congress, etc) can talk and talk and talk until the cows come home, and it will NOT change anything. I agree with Pastor Manning regarding a revolution. The usurper has been surrounded with Teflon proof shields by the Chicago style intimidation!!!
http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=1378
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