WHY WOULD HAWAII AID AN ILLEGAL OF BRITISH BIRTH IN ILLEGALLY OBTAINING A FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

Why would Hawaii aid a known illegal of British birth in illegally obtaining a fake birth certificate?

The Hawaiian answer, as it was a Democratic state and still is, was to start registering all those foreign kids by the thousands. The purpose being to tap into all those federal hundreds of millions then which would profit the state. All of those poverty programs flowed funds into the pockets of the retailers as the golden goose pipeline.

If one makes citizens out of illegals, then Hawaii converts a debt into their asset in obtaining more funds and growing the socialist system which empowers Democratic liberals.

The fact is there are hundreds of thousands of "Barack Obamas" registered in Hawaii.

Do you think even a Republican governor sitting on this explosive mess wants any of this coming out? An entire state sold out the United States for filthy lucre, because they were importing Asian slave labor. That does not make a great headline, nor, did they probably ever expect a money train welfare illegal would somehow get himself installed as President which would expose the entire Hawaiian fraud, and you know very well that all of those records would have to be gone through and verified so an Obama repeat would not occur, in all 50 states.

Talk about a nightmare huh? The nightmare would be the removal of Obama under Quo Warrantus which is being attempted now and 49 other states suing Hawaii for the money it would cost to check all of their records over the Hawaiian fraud.

Hawaii has always been a corrupt enclave like Rhode Island. Hawaii was the conduit in the Clinton years to get Chinese communists a stake in the United States Stock Market, to which Hawaii had the first meltdown in this scheme in costing their investors a fortune and ruining their banks.

That is why Hawaii is in collusion with Barack Obama. They were involved in massive welfare fraud and do not want this coming out.

With this kind of background, in families being "informed" of the opportunities involved in engaging in illegal citizenship, one Stanley Ann Dunham, hauled her little African eastern boy to Indonesia, until the jungle fever wore off, and then dumped him into the Hawaiian system again where Grandma Dunham was stuck with the kid. Grandma Madelyn Dunham did earn some money in BankHo, her bank in Hawaii, but I suspect that the prestigious school Barry got into, was the same game that brought Barack sr. to America on a free educational route.

Barry Obama Soetero was tapping into the welfare system of Hawaii, and in knowing what twisters the Dunhams were, this takes us into Occidental College.

Amusingly Occidental College, basically means round eye college as occidentals are of the European origin who reside in North and South America. The place Obama chose to be dumped into by the Dunhams, was like many of the colleges in that 1979 period in tapping into government resources of free money to "educate" foreigners.

One has to understand colleges in America do not operate to educate children. They are generally conduits of establishing globalist brainwashing into children and as dry cleaning of billions of dollars in funds in "research".

For example Wisconsin has a female professor who took huge amounts of cash for global warming, and one of her subjects was studying how the Great Lakes absorbing carbon gases affected warming!

One might as well studied your bathtub water for the effect for if you look at a map you see the Great Lakes are dots compared to the oceans. There are numerous studies linked to this gravy train of funds which flow into colleges and back into corporations whose equipment and services are purchased. It is the Warren Buffett money flowing into Walmart for his Chinese investments. Except in this case it is college money laundering.

So the Dunhams were adept at illegal activities in scamming the American system, so it is a conclusion strengthened by what Barack Obama has been up to with his platoon of lawyers - that he is covering something up.

Remember it is public information that Barry Obama upon going into college became Barack Hussein Obama. Liberals have explained this away as, "Barack was more intellectual sounding". Not a chance, because what was going on is this:

A college career recruiter shows up and says, "Barry come to Occidental as you will have fun".

Barry goes home and tells Gram Dunham he wants to go have fun. Either money is tight or the Dunhams are basic welfare swindlers and being cheap as they are, Gramma and Mama, put their heads together and say, "Hey, we can get a free education if we dust off Barack sr. being a British subject."

They tell Occidental that and Occidental says, "Great, but we need documentation". "Crapper in the wrapper, "Stan and Mad say as all they got is a bogus Hawaiian birth certificate making him American.

Then Stan and Mad remember that Barry was adopted by Indonesian Papa Soetero. They tell Occidental this and provide Barry Soetero school records from Indonesia and Occidental says, "Eureka, you have struck it rich pilgrims. There is golden grants in them Indonesian hills!"

So Barry becomes Barack and Occidental gets a big ole Obama grant to go with all their other foreign student federal grants they have been milking the system for at the behest of the globalists.

The problem now is, Occidental never figured their scammer would produce a person in the White House.

See this system was designed to Americanize 3rd worlders with globalist nonsense and then bury them back into Indonesia, Russia and Kenya to ruin those peoples lives. Occidental now has a huge problem as it engaged in federal student loan fraud which gave them like many of these globalist programs huge bankrolls to profit off of in exchange for Rothschild plans.

None of these geniuses ever suspected a scammer scamming the system would have a parent who would eventually tap into the Ford Foundation money and fellow traveler contacts which would start opening doors, including psychiatric research doors in reprogramming a Birdie dope head in Columbia to become Barack the communist organizer of Chicago. Stanley Ann Dunham got greedy out of necessity. She tossed Barry away in abandoning him in trying to get rid of her reminder of jungle fever, but still had this reminder turning into an eyesore dope head. She took this loser, put him into a program to "fix him", laying Bill Ayers mindset onto him, all for the purpose of making her sexual mistake into something which would soothe her troubled breast.

The problem is Stanley looks like she embezzled funds from Ford to give Barry a jump start at life in making her mistake into her glory. Barry was only supposed to be the new Jesse Jackson in bringing in the black vote at the beginning. He was transformed by his programming to take the lead of self fulfillment in being President when Hillary was forced to take a dive.

Not for one moment though have the Rothschilds nor Rockefellers not known Barry Soetero is dripping wet with fraud. Bill Clinton constantly hinting at "Constitutional qualifications" means in the boardrooms where these people meet, they have discussed it, have the paper trail and have Obama by his testicles that Jesse Jackson wanted to cut off. Jackson pronounced the race was now complete and there was no more need for "black affirmation" as the race has now reached the mark.

The globalists know all of this and are shedding the black vote for the hispanic vote with Obama as their judas goat in betraying blacks. The globalists know full well how precarious of position Obama is in. They know if this comes out the country will be in chaos and they know if Obama stays in office the continued economic attack on America will simply provide their conduit in establishing their global order. These financiers win no matter what as they have set this out to play out this way.

Strangely Orly Taitz, the lawyer who has the best option to bring all of this out and shine a light on the sordid money fraud situation betraying the United States is a factor the globalists hope for as the more turmoil created the better it is for the global order.

At the very least is this, Barack Obama is guilty of federal money fraud. As Tom Daschle and Tim Geithner just said "Ooops sorry" and paid it back, it could end there for Obama in the foreign student loans IF he had not shown a pattern for the period from 1971 to at least 1982 in passing himself off as Barry Soetero, resident of Indonesia as an adopted son from British Kenya all to tap into the American money supply. A normal moral person would never have gotten themselves into this mess, but Obama because of his programming and what that did to his phobic compulsion disorder has been ploughing on in this, using the shield of the patricians who created him as they are powerful and connected people.

Occidental College opens up the door to Barack Obama declaring in writing he is not American, but foreign. This progresses to Columbia in this fraud, Barrack concludes he is owed a little summer vacation with his Pakistani buddies. He goes into Pakistan once again on an Indonesian passport which signifies again Barack Obama is Indonesian as Americans could not get into Pakistan.

Obama would have probably gotten away with the money fraud, if he had not been too cheap and decided he just had to flip the bird to the American system and get into Pakistan. Those records prove he is an affirmed triple citizen of British Kenya, Indonesia and America, if not Canada registration too. Any part of which disqualifies him for President of the United States.

Barack Obama is like the crook who steals a million dollars, but has to go back and pick up the bank President's pen in greed and that is the 20 dollar item that gets him busted.

There are federal records for these Obama applications for funding in the Department of Education. As of Barack Obama attempting to further smear George W. Bush in releasing Bush documents, to take the heat off of Barack, the Dunham, Obama, Soetero education files are now open to the Freedom of Information act as all papers associated with a President are, as Barack Obama made this a presidential issue when he hired attorneys to cover up what was being hidden at Occidental College. This is a matter for the Justice Department as it is money fraud of college funds and it is a matter for the Republican minority in Congress to demand and hold hearings investigating this.

Those records all exist and if someone destroyed them and they are missing, that is a federal crime by which Barack Obama has benefited, so he is then a guilty co conspirator in another felony. If you get money from someone illegally, and someone else burns the papers protecting you, you are just as guilty as the person who lit the match.

That is how all of this ties together from Hawaiian welfare fraud, Occidental College student finance fraud and Barack Obama currency fraud defrauding the American public of funds and places of education for it's own citizens.

They are coming now for America and this all traces back to the Occidental Obama.

The answer is: in 1961 the American public had not yet been herded by Teddy Kennedy and socialists into providing welfare benefits to illegals. Hawaii had a large population of illegals who were slave labor, but were a huge burden to the system in poverty and crime...The Hawaiian answer, as it was a Democratic state and still is, was to start registering all those foreign kids by the thousands.

That's an interesting allegation. Do you have any evidence that it is true? Unfortunately, the author of this piece fails to provide any.

The place Obama chose to be dumped into by the Dunhams, was like many of the colleges in that 1979 period in tapping into government resources of free money to "educate" foreigners.

Another interesting allegation, for which there is zero evidence.

FYI, it is generally much easire to get financial aid, either Federal of private, if you are a US citizen. There are very few scholarships available for foreign students.

If you want to allege that Obama was studying on a US government scholarship for foreign students, you have to identify some plausible scholarships that he might have gotten. Can you?

It truly is the STORY OF THE CENTURY

Hold on there, sparky. If this is really going to be the story of the century, there should be some evidence to back it up.

As far as I can see, the author has produced exactly zero evidence to back up any of his explosive allegations.

What do you know? A "journalist" with zero evidence writing about Zero. Sort of fitting.

That's an interesting allegation. Do you have any evidence that it is true? Unfortunately, the author of this piece fails to provide any.

It sounds like he's projecting current conditions back onto the past without really looking at the details.

I don't have any information either, but Hawaiian requirements for birth records were lax even when the welfare state wasn't much to speak of and immigration was limited.

Just why that was -- an effort to get around restrictions on Chinese or Japanese immigration and citizenship or just general inefficiency -- I don't know.

How likely is it that the White Territorial governments would have made things easy for Japanese newcomers? Maybe there were just too many children born on out of the way plantations to keep good records.

I don't have any information either, but Hawaiian requirements for birth records were lax even when the welfare state wasn't much to speak of and immigration was limited.

I've seen this claimed, but I have yet to see it substantiated.

Yes, that is why it was relatively easy to get a "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth" during the territorial era. It's also why such a certificate is NOT accepted as proof of citizenship by the feds.

But I haven't seen any evidence that the documentation standards were lax for certificates of LIVE birth in 1961. I've seen lots of birthers make this allegation, but as usual, they present no evidence to back up their case.

It sounds like he's projecting current conditions back onto the past without really looking at the details.

I'd also note that the welfare state in 1961 was pretty modest. There were some New Deal programs in place, but the really generous programs didn't come until the Great Society was passed under Johnson ~5 years later.

I've seen lots of birthers make this allegation, but as usual, they present no evidence to back up their case.

It's probably a conclusion based on the fact that there was a separate "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth" (distinct from a "Certificate of Live Birth" or "Certification of Live Birth) until 1972.

Actually though, the COHB was a looser program for people who couldn't get a birth certificate.

It was intended for children born on out of the way plantations whose births weren't recorded by doctors or hospitals.

But is there real evidence that standards in the Hawaiian COLB program were laxer than in other states?

One thing that gets brought up is the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth that Chinese leader Sun Yat-Sen (1866-1925) was able to get in 1904, even though he wasn't born in Hawaii.

When he was living in Hawaii, Sun got people to lie for him to get his COHB. That was not a COLB, though.

So I don't know. It wouldn't be the first time one of these factoids turned out to be untrue.

Interesting theory, repeated ad nauseum on birther blogs.

A question: where's the proof?

Why is it that these allegations of massive illegal Hawaiian registration of the foreign-born never present any corroboration in fact?

Is it enough to simply throw mud, and see if it sticks? Has Berg, Taitz or any one of these others bringing lawsuits even bothered to do any research to bring evidence to the court?

Not that I've seen.

OK...does it make ANY sense whatsoever...for a person who claims to head the :

“most transparent administration ever”

to hide BY COURT ORDER, no less, a simple document verifying :

1. your original legal name at birth ?

2. your original parents ?

3. and your original place of birth ?

THAT, mr. ignoramus ! is the STORY OF THE CENTURY !

to hide BY COURT ORDER, no less, a simple document verifying :

Gee. That's funny. I didn't hear of any of those court orders. Would you care to tell me where I can find them?

“most transparent administration ever”

Yeah. I agree. That claim's a lie. Obama is a snake and a weasle. Unfortunately, honesty and transparency aren't Constitutional eligibility requirements. I wish they were, believe me, but that's not the reality.

But is there real evidence that standards in the Hawaiian COLB program were laxer than in other states?

Not that I've seen.

There's so many birthers diligently digging up anything they can find, that I think it's pretty likely we'd have seen evidence of lax standards if they were in fact as lax as birthers claim they were.

It wouldn't be the first time one of these factoids turned out to be untrue.

So far, that's happened with virtually every factoid the birthers have come up with.

Dude, I have corresponded with the OIP (State of HI Office of Information Practices) and received a statement quoting a statute that they cannot release documents protected under a privacy exemption due to a COURT ORDER !

Also, ALL 3 of BO’s colleges have strict mandate orders to NOT release ANY of his application forms, transcripts, records, etc. !

Without such an order, anyone could simply fill out a FOIA request and gain access to BO’s records over the counter at ANY and ALL of BO’s colleges !

With all due respect, where have you been ?

Well it happened with the “Indonesian Travel Ban,” the fake Kenyan birth certificate, and the supposed Occidental College records leak. The claim that Obama’s “grandmother” said he was born in Kenya doesn’t stand up too well either. But there are so many mysteries and so much undisclosed information and so many strange details about Obama that this isn’t going to stop any time soon.

You are mistaken. It is a state law, not court order, that prevents the release of documents related to the birth record of Obama and everyone else with a birth record on file in Hawaii.

Also, ALL 3 of BO’s colleges have strict mandate orders to NOT release ANY of his application forms, transcripts, records, etc. !

That's also due to privacy laws, not a court order.

Without such an order, anyone could simply fill out a FOIA request and gain access to BO’s records over the counter at ANY and ALL of BO’s colleges

LOL.Birther naivete never ceases to amaze me.

Occidental and Columbia (which is the third college?) are private colleges, and as such, are not governed by the FOIA. Even in the case of government entities, such as the Hawaii DOH, the FOIA does not grant you access to personal records that are protected by privacy laws.

With all due respect, where have you been ?

Checking facts. You should try it some time.

But there are so many mysteries and so much undisclosed information and so many strange details about Obama that this isn’t going to stop any time soon.

Yes. Secrets and undisclosed information always causes the imaginations of the paranoia-prone to run wild. The fact that sufficient information has been disclosed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he's a natural born citizen will not deter them so long as he's keeping something hidden.

And that's precisely why he's doing it. I don't think he wants it to stop or go away. He's loving it. I'd be too, if I were in his shoes.

I hate to have to do your homework for you:

Exemption 5 – Records Protected by Law (§92F-22(5))

An agency may withhold records (1) required to be withheld
from the individual by statute or court decision

(hmmmm-—can you read ? COURT DECISION! )

; or
(2) authorized to be withheld by constitutional or statutory
privilege. This allows agencies to withhold records such as
records sealed by a court order

(hmmm....”sealed by a COURT ORDER” ???)

, communications between the agency and its attorney, and records found to be privileged in litigation.

An individual has a right to correct or amend factual errors, misrepresentations, or misleading entries in his or her personal record. Part III sets out the procedures for correction.

THIS is the statute the State quoted in their response to me

Maybe you should read that AGAIN and let it sink in ! !

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