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TerriK INVESTIGATION, PART 2: (More from Donofrio and Hawaii)
Naturalborncitizen Blog ^ | 9/27-09 | Leo DonoFrio

Posted on 09/27/2009 8:12:50 AM PDT by Danae

TerriK INVESTIGATION, PART 2: OIP Staff Attorney Linden Joesting’s Response to TerriK’s Appeal Appears To Confirm That The DoH Maintains Amended Vital Records For President Obama.

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The UIPA at 92F-3 explicitly defines “government records” as follows:

“Government record” means information maintained by an agency in written, auditory, visual, electronic, or other physical form.

When a state agency in Hawaii is faced with a request for government records, the Office of Information Practices Administrative Rules govern all responses to such a request.  State agencies may not issue a response which doesn’t conform to the OIP Administrative Rules.

Agencies must answer every request for government records within the four following types of response:

1.  the agency has the record and will provide it to you

2. the agency does not maintain/possess the record

3.  the agency has the record but you are denied access to it

4. the agency needs more information from you to understand your request

These are examples of the four basic responses available to a state agency.  For example, an agency may not tell a person that the agency refuses to say whether they possess a certain record.

This very issue was discussed  in OIP Opinion Letter 97-08, wherein a staff attorney for the Corporation Counsel was faced with a UIPA request concerning a legal memo.  The staff attorney refused to acknowledge whether the legal memo existed by citing attorney client privilege.


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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; donofrio; glennbeck; hawaii; indonesia; kenya; leo; military; nbc; obama; obamatruthfile; palin; soetoro; veterans
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To: Candor7
I want to remind everyone of the words of some, that, Obama and his henchmen are setting us up with a trap and we are just playing into their hand.
I have to remind everyone that even the Pharaoh Ramesses II thought that he had the children of Israel trapped at the sea of Aqaba ( the right finger flank of the RED sea as it separates from the main body of the RED sea ).
So did Haman also thought that he had a trap set for the children of Israel, but, the God of Israel cause his own trap to fall back on him.

121 posted on 09/28/2009 1:39:31 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Not on the COLB itself. But in his file, YOU BET THERE IS!!!


122 posted on 09/28/2009 1:46:10 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: tcrlaf
Hoosier Mama is the one who said 'ACORN is no longer in Indiana'.....

My reply is Here

I referenced a link to the IndyStar article ACORN Has Scaled Back Indiana Operations

Thanks.

123 posted on 09/28/2009 2:30:24 PM PDT by conservativegramma (Palin has my vote: whoever the media hates I love)
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To: Danae

I think people are getting bogged down in chasing Obama’s birth certificate. The real issue (IMO) is how the constitution requirements for presidential candidates are implemented and who is responsible for ensuring the requirements are met (we know that several red states had a presidential candidate that clearly did not meet the requirements) and how compliance is documented. If this process can’t be followed from beginning to end it is not adequate and must be remedied by the Congress and/or the courts.

We can even address election fraud while we are at it.


124 posted on 09/28/2009 2:52:40 PM PDT by Peter Horry (Never were abilities so much below mediocrity so well rewarded - John Randolph)
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To: Peter Horry

I think that is what Leo is getting at. THe DNC used a whole bunch of confusing tactics to confuse the issue of Obama’s eligibility. One thing they could NOT do was to on a universal scale say that he was ineligible, they KNOW he isn’t so they had to set up plausible deniability with a bunch of inconsistent forms and crap.

The reality is: Obama was born of a British Father. That makes him ineligible right there. No need to go any forther in the least at all. The man should be in prison along with those who aided and abeited the largest fraud ever pulled off on the American People. Just think of all those suckers who DONATED that 900 million and worked their asses off for him. He is a criminal. THEY ought to be pissed as hell at him, it might be we should just throw him to them and let them tear him apart!


125 posted on 09/28/2009 4:10:59 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

Leo Donofrio posted the following on his blog (I did not see this posted in earlier comments):
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naturalborncitizen Says:
September 28, 2009 at 11:41 am
ATTENTION….

I want as much focus on this blog as possible when I publish Part 3 of the TerriK Investigation Report, subtitled:

STATE OF HAWAII LAW DEMANDS THAT VITAL RECORDS INFORMATION FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC ALONG WITH ALL RECORDS PERTAINING TO DoH DIRECTOR FUKINO’S JULY 27, 2009 PRESS RELEASE.

Not only has Obama waived privacy interests, the state waived them as well. More important is the fact that state law governs that no privacy interest exception applies when the information requested is required to be released under the UIPA at 92F-12.

The only question is whether Hawaii will obey its own laws.

I will publish this report late tonight or early tomorrow morning.

This comment was issued by Leo C. Donofrio on September 27, 2009 at 12:41PM ET

Please repost far and wide.


126 posted on 09/28/2009 6:45:13 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

Where did he post that?

I can’t find it and I r tired...


127 posted on 09/28/2009 7:07:42 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

I think the following link will take you directly to Leo’s comment that I quoted.

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2009/09/26/terrik-investigation-part-2-oip-staff-attorney-linden-joestings-response-to-terriks-appeal-appears-to-confirm-that-the-doh-maintains-amended-vital-records-for-president-obama/#comment-12282

Please let me know if it doesn’t work.


128 posted on 09/28/2009 7:19:20 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

It totally worked!

Thanks! I forget to look for his gif, so used to looking for the bold comments LOL


129 posted on 09/28/2009 7:26:50 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

I’m used to looking for his bold comments, too! LOL!

No new post from Leo, yet. Perhaps later tonight or more likely in the morning.


130 posted on 09/28/2009 7:37:10 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Danae
If Obama had the Adoption legally nullified, his COLB would have reverted back to the original form, with out the amended language on it.

It's possible the adoption (assuming there was an adoption, which hasn't been proven BTW) took place in Indonesia. In that case, it's doubtful there are any amendments to the record Hawaii, as the Indonesian courts would not likely have bothered to notify the Hawaiian DOH.

131 posted on 09/29/2009 9:31:48 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

The adoption likely happened in Hawaii. In his book (for what ever that’s worth) said it happened before he went to Indonesia. Besides, if his Mom ran the Adoption through any official channels it would have had to involve his birth certificate.

We don’t know for sure, but it will all come to light with Leo’s success!


132 posted on 09/29/2009 9:35:26 AM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae

bump


133 posted on 09/29/2009 10:16:25 AM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: Danae
The adoption likely happened in Hawaii. In his book (for what ever that’s worth) said it happened before he went to Indonesia.

I haven't read either of his books, but that's the first I've heard that he says he was adopted. In which book did you find that passage, and what is the page number?

134 posted on 09/29/2009 12:38:58 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

I can’t give those to you. I don’t have the pages that were posted on the internet now. I am only going on anecdote information now. The webpage I was referring to no longer exists.


135 posted on 09/29/2009 1:43:19 PM PDT by Danae (No political party should pick candidates. That's the voters job.)
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To: Danae
I am only going on anecdote information now.

Well, then you will forgive my skepticism, because my experience is that information passed around by birthers through word of mouth tends to be unreliable.

Can you at the very least tell me in which book he talks about this adoption? I could probably find someone in the marketing or OB department (they tend to be lefties) with a copy and I might be able to skim through and find it.

136 posted on 09/29/2009 2:58:05 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Can you at the very least tell me in which book he talks about this adoption? I could probably find someone in the marketing or OB department (they tend to be lefties) with a copy and I might be able to skim through and find it.

You don't even need to leave your computer desk. You can do text searches of both books at Amazon.

Though I can tell you right now that he doesn't say anything about being adopted in "Dreams From My Father." Because I already checked.

137 posted on 09/30/2009 8:56:26 AM PDT by LorenC
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To: LorenC; Danae
You can do text searches of both books at Amazon.

Thanks for alerting me to that tool, Loren! It is a very useful feature, indeed!

FYI, Danae, I just did a text search on "adopt*" in both of Bambi's books, and there is nothing in either of them about him being adopted by Soetero.

As far as I can tell, the only evidence that he was adopted is the mention of "two children" in the divorce papers of his Mom and step-dad. However, a lawyer friend of mine tells me that that such evidence is not conclusive, since divorce proceedings sometimes will list children of the household even if one of the divorcing parties is not their legal guardian. It depends on the family law of the state, and unfortunately he does not know what was in effect in Hawaii at the time of the divorce.

IMHO, it is most likely the case that he was adopted in Indonesia, as that would explain the Catholic school registration document, the divorce papers, and the fact that his birth record was never amended.

138 posted on 09/30/2009 9:53:39 AM PDT by curiosity
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