Let's prove Obama Was Born In Hawaii So we Can Move Onto His British Birth

NaturalBornCitizen Blog ^ | 09/21/2009 | Leo Donofrio

[editor-surveyor]

OK, you’re accepting the word of the paper, even though we know that they fail to print the truth day by day.

I simply do not accept the word of any news medium WO corroboration.

[mlo]

"I’ts what is required to be a NBC."

That's what YOU say. I asked what part of the constitution says that.

[mlo]

I'm quite familiar with Sandra Lines statement. You'll not that nowhere in it does she agree that it is a forgery. All she says is what she would say about any scan or image, even of a perfectly authentic document.

A document examiner will not authenticate an image. That's all she says.

[mlo]

If you want to offer a cite to something, go right ahead. But I’ve been over and over this with the birthers for months. It’s not me being thick-headed. You can see right on this thread where some of them refuse to accept what is written in black and white.

[MHGinTN]

The lack of savvy in taking what is on microfiche in HI as absolute gospel truth is troubling since it is so easy to alter what the microfiche record reflects AND because neither paper lists the birth of the Nordyke TWINS born within hours of Barry. Add to that the fact that the Nordyke twins’ father listed for purposes of his wifes prenatal care his address as the clinic addy on the same street as the supposed Obama residence and we have the even easier means to alter the microfiche records of the two papers. Only corroboration of the record will make the microfiche records genuine ... the absence of the Nordyke twins, born to a Doctor on the Islands is most disturbing since that would have been a far more noteworthy event than the baby born to the underaged daughter of a banker on the Islands ... and the twins are not listed in any of the papers which followed for four weeks after their birth. Frankly, when someone makes the microfiche imagery an axiom to their argument for Barry’s place and time of birth, I immediately see them as a shill or ill informed and satisfied to remain such.

[MHGinTN]

And I forgot to mention that the Nordyke twins’ BC numbers are lower not higher than the one claimed for Barry who was born hours before them supposedly, at the same hospital.

[etraveler13]

Perhaps you missed this:
2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from “Ron Polarik,” [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the “Daily Kos,” the Obama Campaign, “Factcheck.org” and others

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“cannot be relied upon as genuine.

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Mr. Polarik raises issues concerning the COLB that I can affirm. Software such as Adobe Photoshop can produce complete images or alter images that appear to be genuine”; therefore, any image offered on the internet cannot be relied upon as being a copy of the authentic document.

[Non-Sequitur]

Was his US citizenship status ever lost or changed due to either of these issues?

The answer to that would be no. He could lose his citizenship only if he gave it up himself, and only as an adult.

[Non-Sequitur]

They cannot even acknowledge that Barry signed onto requirements for McCain that he himself could not meet by his own assertion of his father being a Kenyan at birth and he himself having British citizenship at birth.

He also couldn't meet them because he wasn't born in Panama.

[Non-Sequitur]

I’ts what is required to be a NBC.

And where exactly in the Constitution does it say that?

[editor-surveyor]

"You can see right on this thread where some of them refuse to accept what is written in black and white."

And time and time again, I see you refusing to accept the solid backup of the constitution contained in the Federalist Papers. The true meaning of "Natural Born Citizen" is clearly given therein, and you refuse to accept it.

There are no mysteries in the constitution; they all are resolved through the Federalist Papers, Websters 1828 Dictionary, Black's, and the Encyclopedia Britanica, but you don't like what they say.

[editor-surveyor]

"And where exactly in the Constitution does it say that?"

The constitution has no glossary; the answer is in the letters exchanged between Madison and Jay regarding that particular clause. Facts are so uncomfortable!

[El Sordo]

Well, that should be an interesting one to watch.

[Lower55]

“Facts are so uncomfortable!”

Ditto. It get’s tiring playing with these obots.

[rahbert]

[You must understand that Stanley Ann Dunham, left America to go to Kenya]

You know this how? Is this provable fact? Or birther legend?

[mlo]

I already told you, if you want to cite something go ahead. Just saying "Federalist Papers" is not a cite.

Time and time again, I've seen you and the others refuse to accept the clear explanation from a ruling of the United States Supreme Court, because you don't like what it says.

[etraveler13]

Lucas Smith provided a Birth Certificate to the courts that he secured personally in Mombasa, Kenya, which is in Orly Taitz presentation to the courts on Oct 5, 2009
I presume that for Obama to be born in Mombasa, Kenya
His mother would have to be present.
It is yet to be determined if it is a genuine document or not. It does not contradict the Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth, as Orly Taitz now has in her possession, the page 11 of the divorce decree which is Obama’s COLB from Hawaii.
It will be interesting to see what happens..

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Her move to Indonesia:
Lolo Soetoro in 1971, with Ann, Maya and Barack.It was at the East-West Center that Dunham met Lolo Soetoro, a student from Indonesia.[28] They married in 1966 or 1967 and moved with six-year-old Barack to Jakarta, Indonesia, just after the unrest surrounding the ascent of Suharto.[29] In Indonesia

[editor-surveyor]

YOu are a real scammer!

How does a devoted Obummanite manage to stay here lying, deflecting, and dissembling?

The SCOTUS has never ruled on this because there is nothing to rule on. Obama is the first pretender to pull a coup on the whitehouse.

[Non-Sequitur]

The constitution has no glossary; the answer is in the letters exchanged between Madison and Jay regarding that particular clause.

Could you possibly be referring to the letter between John Jay and George Washington dated July 25, 1787? If so, then can you point out where Jay defines natural-born citizen?

Link

If you are, in fact, referring to a letter or letters between Jay and Madison where the definition of natural-born citizen was discussed then could you please give the dates and/or links?

Facts are so uncomfortable!

Indeed.