Posted on 08/09/2009 6:56:23 PM PDT by RebelYell1990
Sarah Palin finally came out and made her stance on illegal immigration clear. She is pro amnesty for illegal aliens. In an interview to Univision she stated unequivocally that she is for a pathway to citizenship. In the same interview she says she is against amnesty for illegal aliens. Have your cake and eat it to, I think that is called.
Back on the same day that John McCain chose Sarah Palin as his vice-presidential candidate I started investigating Palin's past on illegal immigration. I invited others to send in anything they found. There was nothing on the record. Many did write in and said that Laura Ingraham said that one time she was talking to Palin and she said she was against amnesty. That was the only statement anywhere that could be found.
Now we know that she is against amnesty, all the while she is for it with a "pathway to citizenship".
You see this is what is wrong with these people. They think they can be on both sides of the issue at once and that simply isn't possible. You are either against amnesty or you are not. If you are for a pathway to citizenship for those who have illegally entered our country then you are pro-amnesty as you have virtually absolved them of all of their illegality.
People have bashed me for questioning "the Palin". They wrote in to say that obviously she is against illegal immigration. This was all wishful thinking and like so many other issues that the politicians have avoided, until they take a clear stance don't assume anything (and even then, if they're only saying it look at their record).
Sarah Palin is in lock-step with John McCain when it comes to amnesty for illegal aliens. Her answers are almost indistinguishable from McCain's, Obama's or even the most pro-illegal alien congressman in the house, Luis Gutierrez, for that matter.
Read it and weep.
Univision
Univision: Governor, let me ask you about immigration. How many undocumented immigrants are there in Alaska? Sarah Palin: I don't know, I don't know. That's a good question.
Univision: As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported? Sarah Palin: There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant - there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants - not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.
Univision: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants? Sarah Palin: No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. They've got to follow the bar, and we have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.
Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants? Sarah Palin: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.
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Univision: What is your strategy? How are you planning to win the latino vote? Sarah Palin: I will tell you, I wish that there were more hours in the day so that we can get out there and to more of the communities with such the strong Latino vote that is out there and really tell them that we desire to work for them. We are asking them to hire us and let us work for them.
Sickening we can't find a real leader in this country who cares about Americans first.
God forbid we enforce our laws, and totally deny tax paid services for illegal aliens. Can’t have that.
You should get your facts straight.
McCain was of course for amnesty. In fact he was the King of Amnesty.
Having then received the Republican nomination, McCain flip-flopped and said that he was against(lol) amnesty.
Sarah has never said that she was for amnesty.
Sarah has never run for VP with a Presidential candidate who was campaigning for amnesty.
Those are the facts and Sarah's judgment on the issue so far appears to be okay.
Either we have borders, or we do not...
Another either/or fallacy.
This poll really must have freaked out the Romneybots tonight
Politico poll
Newt Gingrich 6 %
Mike Huckabee 5 %
Sarah Palin 49 %
Mitt Romney 23 %
Someone else. 15 %
I’m not sure. 3 %
Results are based on 19009 votes
Screw the article. Go back to the original source, as posted right here on FR in Oct. 2008:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2112715/posts
Let's review the exact quotes:
Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 or 13 million undocumented immigrants?
PALIN: No, I do not. I do not. Not total amnesty.
Okay, so she answers properly at first by declaring that she does not "favor an amnesty" for illegal aliens. However, she immediately backtracks, saying "not total amnesty." In other words, she may be open to a partial amnesty.
Of course, you've got to read this quote in the context of the rest of the interview.
Let's continue, shall we?
To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?
PALIN: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.
First off, this is Univision. They are using the language of the left, i.e., "undocumented immigrants" instead of "illegal aliens." So, it can be readily inferred that "pathway to citizenship" is a left-wing euphemism for what we conservatives call an "amnesty."
Palin answers the question in a non-conservative manner, saying that she is for "a pathway to citizenship" for illegal aliens, presumably what the interviewer believes is a de jure amnesty for illegal aliens. However, she then backtracks and says that "it is important that...people follow the rules."
Third and final quote:
As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?
PALIN: There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.
Palin admits defeat right from the get go. She rules out any possibility of deporting illegal aliens who are trespassing on U.S. territory. Only now do we have the proper context to interpret the first quote: she is willing to support a partial, but not total, amnesty.
It's hard to tell, though, absent any other public statements from her regarding illegal aliens. Certainly, at the time of the interview, she was under the control of McCain's and Romney's RINO puppet masters, which might explain the McCainian tack of her remarks. However, irrespective, she is still responsible for what she says and must either clarify her political position on "immigration reform" or face the continued muddying of the waters, so to speak--a political outcome that is not favorable to her and might in fact be favorable to any of her competitors, including Romney.
Anyways, my frank personal opinion is that if Palin is indeed unwilling to support the valid laws of these United States and their enforcement thereof, then she is just as unfit to serve as President of these United States as Obama. After all, one of the primary roles of the executive branch of our government is to enforce the laws, and a deliberate refusal to carry out such a mission is a trait unbecoming of a proper and Constitutional executive. However, whether she is actually pro-amnesty has yet to be conclusively seen.
Oh, no, enforcing the law isn’t practical when the lawbreakers are Mexicans. Besides, if we enforce the law, it might make the Republican Party look bad on the Drudge Report!
No, let’s just let the invaders stay. We can make them sign a paper saying “I Wuz A Bad Boy” before we give them amnesty.
Illegal immigration — it’s a Pathway to Citizenship!
Unlike most of your posts in this thread.
But, actually, as I said before, this entire thread as it relates to Palin is a waste of time. The amnesty issue will be revived, probably this year, and Sarah and all prominent Republicans will have to take a position on the issue.
We should learn her position and that of other possible presidential candidates when the issue is revived. All this harping over that 2008 interview is silly.
There is no basis for your claim that Palin differs on the issue with McCain, Obama, Bush, Graham, or Kennedy. They all “oppose” amnesty but support “comprehensive immigration reform”. she is on record saying the deportation of illegals is unpractical and that she supports a pathway to citizenship for them. She supports citizenship for illegals, not deportation. this statement on a Spanish speaking, pro amnesty, anti american news outfit is backed up by the fact she did not crack down on sanctuary cities and that she allowed illegal immigrants to obtain driver’s licenses while she was governor.
“However we can infer that at the very least in her two years as governor she has taken no action against Alaska being a sanctuary state, a Mexican consulate is being welcomed to the state, and so far as we know Alaska still offers driver’s licenses to illegal aliens.”
http://www.rightsidenews.com/200809201992/editorial/palins-alaska-is-a-sanctuary-state.html
http://www.theamericanresistance.com/issues/drivers_licenses.html
No again.
McCain/Palin platform was against amnesty (not that I would trust McCain).
But the fact remains, Sarah and her "team" did not run on an amnesty platform.
Reading through these....Begs the question...If McCain was the king of health care reform...and Palin have hooked up her wagon the that, would she still get this support?
Interesting that it is the Palin supporters who are against Amnesty and the ones who are attacking Obama who is the Pres. and pushing this agenda.
If you are really against Amnesty, attack the person who is in power and pushing this.
The Third Party loons can only attack Conservatives, don’t see that same energy against Marxist Obama
If McCain was the king of an Obama stlye health care reform...and Palin hooked up her wagon the that, would she still get your support?
In 1954 we caught abd deported 150,000 in about 6 months and almost 1 million left because they feared getting caught.
If we shut down the jobs and social services to the criminals we can do much better than that. If they can’t work or get welfare, they will leave and go back where they belong.
The ones you catch and deport are just a small fraction of the ones who will leave once the jobs, free medical and free schooling and other services dry up. We’ve already seen a few million leave because of the recession and the puny enforcement of the employment laws.
Ike got good results in 1954 and didn’t really do all he could have.
That is a baseless claim, considering this is a conservative and a republican site, liberals don’t come here. You can’t make outlandish claims like this as you don’t know what we have done on other sites. It worries me that Palin supports the Obama position, worse yet, there are several republicans that support the Obama position.
When all else fails, just attack the messenger and resort to name-calling, eh?
Run for office? No thanks. The idea of telling lies to honest people as a way of earning a living holds no appeal for me.
As for me not caring how my plan would go over: you’re right. I don’t care. Then again, I think democracy is stupid, and history proves plainly that republican government does not work. Giving the average NASCAR-watching moron a vote is like giving a chimp an Uzi.
Besides, I have no political ambition — no desire to rule anybody — and I’m for sure not going to get involved with any sort of militia, violence or other craziness. Instead, I intend to crouch quietly under my toadstool until a) your elected representatives send the goon squad after me or b) the American Empire goes down like the Soviets did — by rotting away from the inside. Only then will true conservatism have a chance in this country.
So go ahead, compromise all you want with the invaders. But when they run up the flag of Aztlan in your neighborhood, I want you to mentally picture me laughing, laughing in your face.
You are not against Amnesty or you would have been posting right along against Obama and his up coming agenda pushing this.
Hell, Lindsey Graham just came out the other day and said that he is "eager and willing" to assist Obama in passing "immigration reform."
If McCain was the king of an Obama style health care reform...and Palin hooked up her wagon the that, would she still get your support?
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