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To: DavidFarrar; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; pissant; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
I'm sure that others have said the following,but Obama would be a US citizen at birth ONLY if he was actually born on US soil.

TO date, there is no proof that Obama was born anywhere on US soil. Consequently, the law in effect at the time of Obama's birth, state's that if the mother is under 18 at the time of Barack's birth -- which Stanley Ann Dunham was -- and the father was not a US citizen -- which Obama Sr. was not -- then US citizenship WOULD NOT automatically pass from the mother to the child -- which it didn't.

In this instance, Obama had to go through immigration to be naturalized, and there is no evidence that he did.

But, the bottom line is that Obama STILL would NOT be a natural-born US citizen.only a child born on US soil, for whom both parents are US citizens, can become President.

On the other hand, Obama illicitly gained the office of President through deceit, document fraud, voter fraud, and obstruction of justice, and on top of that, his latest criminal act of firing an independent Inspector General, should earn him immediate impeachment

Last October, I spoke directly with Hawaii's State Registrar and head of Vital Records, Dr. Alvin Onaka, about an image showing what is called a, "Certification of Live Birth," or COLB and he confirmed what my research proved: that Obama's COLB, dated June 6,2007, was never released to anyone by the State of Hawaii. It is a forgery made to look like a nonexistent document.

What Press Secretary Gibbs affirmed to the world is that Obama and his associates committed felony document fraud by creating and proffering a false identification document in violation of Chapter 18 of the United States Code, Section 1028, Fraud and related activity in connection with identification documents, authentication features, and information:

The term "false identification document" means a document of a type intended or commonly accepted for the purposes of identification of individuals that - is not issued by or under the authority of a governmental entity or was issued under the authority of a governmental entity but was subsequently altered for purposes of deceit.

By creating this forgery and passing it off as real, Obama violated both Federal and Hawaiian forgery laws. Additionally, since this Internet image was seen nationwide and was used in conjunction with soliciting campaign contributions, this is also a blatant instance of Internet fraud, and Obama is guilty of Internet fraud in all 50 states as well as nbeing in violation of FEC laws.

The intent of this forgery is clear: to deceive the United States Government, state election officials, American voters, and the national media into believing that Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born citizen. Additionally, this forgery was used to derail legal attempts to secure his original birth certificate -- as Judge Robertson did in the Hollister v. Soetoro case.

Factcheck, an alleged nonpartisan, nonpolitical "fact checking website" is nothing of the sort. They were fully complicit in this birth certificate fraud: their mission was to "validate" the COLB image posted online, and to stave off any and all criticisms of it. Factcheck's staff has no understanding of computer graphics nor do they have anyone else in their organization qualified to certify image as genuine.

Since June 16, 2008, Factcheck has run a disinformation campaign on Obama's "birth certificate” including photographing what was alleged as the "actual paper document.”

Factcheck's ties to Obama run far and wide. They are owned and operated by the Annenberg Foundation, but specifically funded by billionaire George Soros.

This is the same Annenberg Foundation that gave $30 million education grant for the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, to William Ayers, the unrepentant domestic terrorist who bombed the Pentagon and police stations as a member of the "Weatherman Underground."

It was William Ayers who specifically hired a Chicago community organizer, with no executive or managerial experience, whatsoever, to be the Challenge's Chairman of the Board. That person was Barack Hussien Obama, longtime friend of Bill Ayers, who used this appointment to jumpstart his chances to become a credible Presidential candidate.

All last year, when Obama was asked about his associations with Ayers, he flatly denied that he had any, saying that "Ayers was a guy down the street who bombed buildings when I was eight years old."

Therefore, the same charges that need to be brought against Obama and his Campaign staff also need to be leveled at Factcheck for conspiracy to document fraud and Internet fraud, and for proffering a fabricated government document as a genuine, government-issued birth certificate.

Factcheck is Obama's right hand just as the forger is his left hand, and with birth certificate controversy, one hand washed the other for an entire year! When asked for proof of birth, Obama's aides pointed to Factcheck. When Factcheck was asked any questions about Obama's birth certificate, they pointed to Obama's aides.

If I were a lawyer, the Defendants I'd name would begin with Obama's Campaign staffers, specifically Tommy Vietor and Shaun Daly (who are now working in the Obama Administration), Factcheck, Politifact (Factcheck's sister site), and the Department of Health, Government of Hawaii.

I've told that repeatedly to every single person who has filed an eligibility lawsuit whose sole aim is to have Obama release his long-form "vault" birth certificate, and told them, flat-out, that's the wrong strategy!

If you want to catch the big fish, you've got to start with the little fish first. You do not start with the Big Killer Whale. You have got to disrupt the food chain. Just as the FBI did with the mafia, and then Al-Qaeda.

Once you've disrupted the big fish's food supply, you take away what keeps the the big fish going.


69 posted on 06/16/2009 2:21:49 PM PDT by Polarik (It's the forgery, Stupid!)
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To: Polarik

Bump Dat...


71 posted on 06/16/2009 3:34:04 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Polarik; MHGinTN; DavidFarrar

You and many others have made a great effort to demonstrate this may be the largest scam in recorded history

Whether it is the largest scam, depends on whether O was born in Hawaii.

I say this only because any review by the USSC will likely be greatly influenced by the fact the Republican attorneys serving in the Congress, were not in the least troubled on January 8 by the well-publicized fact O’s father was not a U.S. citizen.

Even if O was born in Hawaii, his refusal to perform the Constitutionally-mandated duty of qualifying for the office is nonetheless a needless and expensive scam.

The case is simple, really.
In the first instance, O childishly does not want to tell us whether he was born in Hawaii but he must be made to perform his Constitutional duty.

What does it take to move forward?

Republican politicians with some guts and a sense of duty, who will understand the oath they swear to defend the Constitution. And, we must conclude, they are not now in office. (Do not tell me it is hurtful to offend our political leaders, where have they been on this issue?)

Do we go out tomorrow and find replacement candidates?

Do we cleanse the party by requiring candidates in 2010 to specifically commit to taking effective legal action on this specific issue (a la Newt’s contract)?
Do we have time for that?

Do we make the issue the center of an increasing number of “tea parties”?

Or do we kick back and see how “others” work it out, if at all?


72 posted on 06/16/2009 3:50:47 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Socialism and facism violate the Constitution and are "domestic enemies".)
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To: Polarik
Dear Mr. Polarik, (65)

I am really interested in your comment:

"Last October, I spoke directly with Hawaii's State Registrar and head of Vital Records, Dr. Alvin Onaka, about an image showing what is called a, "Certification of Live Birth," or COLB and he confirmed what my research proved: that Obama's COLB, dated June 6,2007, was never released to anyone by the State of Hawaii. It is a forgery made to look like a nonexistent document."
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More specifically,

"...that Obama's COLB, dated June 6,2007, was never released to anyone by the State of Hawaii. It is a forgery made to look like a nonexistent document."

Are you saying, according to Dr. Alvin Onaka, Hawaiian Health officials never released any copy, even a digital copy, to either Barack Obama, or his representatives, or to any of the FactCheck staffers - to nobody in 2007/2008?

ex animo

davidfarrar

80 posted on 06/16/2009 5:47:20 PM PDT by DavidFarrar (Constitution, 2nd Amendment,)
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To: Polarik
Last October, I spoke directly with Hawaii's State Registrar and head of Vital Records, Dr. Alvin Onaka, about an image showing what is called a, "Certification of Live Birth," or COLB and he confirmed what my research proved: that Obama's COLB, dated June 6,2007, was never released to anyone by the State of Hawaii.

That's a BIG detail, Ron.

One, it was never released to anyone and two, whatever was published, even if by a third party is in violation of Hawaii State law for falsification of official documents. Whoever published the fraudulent document is in jeopardy under the law.

Three....takes a small fish to catch a big fish.
91 posted on 06/16/2009 8:17:39 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Government needs a Keelhauling now and then.)
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