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Obama's Illinois Driver's License Abstract
Article 2, Sect 1, Clause 5 (Natural Born Citizen) ^
| 2/21/09
| RR
Posted on 02/21/2009 2:58:50 PM PST by BP2
Theres a bit of a mystery that may not have been brought up before regarding Obamas Illinois drivers license record.
This is BHOs Illinois drivers license abstract:
In addition to showing Obamas Illinois drivers license number, O150-0686-1221-0, it does show a clean record.
But whats with the Cont. Lic. Date of 8-19-96? The date seems to be when he first applied for his Illinois Drivers License, which he held consistently through its expiration date of 8-4-08.
Some background:
Obama first moved to Chicago in 1985 and may have used some mass transit occasionally as a Community Organizer. Obama began attending Harvard Law School in fall 1988. In 1989, he worked briefly at the Sidley Austin Law Firm in Chicago, as a summer associate from Harvard, where he met Michelle. They had a "long distance relationship" until he graduated from Harvard in May 1991. Obama returned to be the Illinois head of "Project Vote" (affiliated with "ACORN") while Michelle is hired as a Chicago mayoral assistant. On Dec. 17, 1991, Obama is admitted to the Illinois Bar. Obama and Michelle married Oct. 3, 1992.
BHO definitely owned and drove a car while wooing Michelle in Chicago between summer 1989 and October 1992. THIS is from the 60 Minutes interview last year, while they were reminiscing of their early years together:
Kroft: It is one bedroom? Studio?
Mr. Obama: Yeah, it was sort of a one bedroom. It had kind of the vintage, college dorm, pizza
Kroft: Community organizer, right?, feel to it.
Michelle Obama: It reminded me of a little better version of the apartment you were in when we first started dating. That was a dump too.
Mr. Obama: Right near Harold's Chicken Shack.
Michelle Obama: Yeah.
Mr. Obama: Yeah. That's when I had the car with the-the hole in it.
Michelle Obama: And you could see the sidewalk, because the rust had gone through.
Mr. Obama: The air-conditioning.
Michelle Obama: So that was my side. I would look and see the ground going past. And I still married him.
One consideration might be that he let his Illinois drivers license lapse while he was at Harvard from Fall 1988 to May 1991. In 2007, to clean his record for his presidential run, Obama paid for 17 parking tickets he received between Oct. 5, 1988 and Jan. 12, 1990. However, it is unknown if he had a Massachusetts drivers license during that time. Its more likely that he kept his Illinois drivers license and drove his rusty car back and forth 1000 miles, nearly 16 hours, between Harvard and Chicago when visiting Michelle (see Obama finally pays local parking ticket).
Regardless, its unlikely he neither owned nor drove a car in Illinois for five years after returning to Chicago in mid-1991 (post-Harvard) until the date on the Illinois drivers license abstract of Aug 19, 1996.
So why the 1996 date, just months before his first run (and win) as an Illinois State Senator with the socialist New Party in November 1996?
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To: BP2
...and don’t forget this:
U.S. Congressman Eni Faleomavaega (D — American Samoa) was in Jakarta, Indonesia, where had a private meeting in Jakarta with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono and Barnabas Suebu the governor for the Indonesian province of Papau. In the meeting, Faleomavaega asked to travel to Obama’s childhood school.
According to our Indonesian sources, “officials” who accompanied Faleomavaega were interested in acquiring any and all documentation or photographs of a young Barry Soetoro for America’s “national archives” and they were offering cash, lots of it. In a show of faith, Barack Obama’s childhood school would be one of the very first beneficiaries of this outpouring receiving thousands of dollars to upgrade the school and for the purchase of computer equipment, thanks in part to the benevolence of this visiting junket.
The challenge of course was securing Indonesian government records potentially damaging to Barack Obama’s candidacy for the U. S. presidency as well as other records pertaining to a young Barry Soetoro and his family wouldn’t be so easy to acquire and secure, and for this, the visitors would need the assistance and cooperation of the Indonesian government.
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaPolitics.htm
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posted on
02/22/2009 12:01:16 PM PST
by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
To: Beckwith
Perhaps in 2007.....Google found this little note:
US congressman Eni Faleomavaega visits Timika, Papua
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The US congressman was tightly guarded by local security personnel and journalists were not allowed to enter the Sheraton Hotel where the congressman checked in. Mimika Police Chief Adjunct Senior Commissioner Godhelp Mansnembra said the Indonesian foreign affairs ministry was coordinating US Congressman`s visit.
Faleomavaega left for Biak and later for Manokwari on Tuesday to hold a meeting with West Papua Province Governor Abraham Octavianus Atururi.
On Tuesday afternoon, the foreign affairs ministry would coordinate a press conference in Timika. After the press conference, Faleomavaega was scheduled to have a close look at PT Freeport Indonesia`s mining area in Tembagapura.
To: Slings and Arrows
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posted on
02/22/2009 12:08:35 PM PST
by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
To: mojitojoe
“Also Sr. was really short.”
That’s ‘cause he had no legs.
He had many extremely serious alcohol-related accidents. Both his legs had to be amputated. They were replaced with crude false limbs made from iron.
http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaFamily.htm
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posted on
02/22/2009 12:12:05 PM PST
by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
To: rodguy911
"You gotta wonder if all this is coincidence or a well thought out ruse..."
Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no bona fides -- no paper trail -- nothing.
Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Obama/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released
Soetoro/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released (by independent investigators)
Punahou School records -- Not released
Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None
The Illinois State Archives told Judicial Watch that they never received any request from Senator Obama to archive any records in his possession. In 2007, Obama told Tim Russert that his records were "not kept."
And there's less on the web every day. In time, the entire Obama body of knowledge will consist of 3 documents -- "Dreams From My Father" -- "The Audacity of Hope" -- and the latest -- "Change We Can Believe In" -- all written by Barack Hussein Obama or his "ghost-writers."
Obama is an immensely talented man whose talents have been largely devoted to crafting, and chronicling, his own life. Not things. Not ideas. Not institutions. Just himself.
So, you can understand why I say, I know less about Obama now than I did at the beginning. The critical stuff is disappearing and all we have left is Obama's idealized version of events. Now, this undocumented stranger, who has repeatedly been rewarded for the work of others, is sitting in the Oval Office.
Who Is This Guy?
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posted on
02/22/2009 12:17:22 PM PST
by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
To: Beckwith
Ooooooooo the advantage of being a Democrat in a democrat area. Any other person would have had penalties assessed yearly but not Jr! Any other person would have had their license revoked but not Jr! Maybe I better start reading about Marie Antoinette again.
To: BP2
The question is how long will it take before FOIA requests are taken care of without stalling?
To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Aloha kakahiaka, Ernest!
Just got off the phone with my brother in upstate NY. He wanted to know what's known about the guy over here. Told him I don't know of more than a handful of people who know him or of his time in Honolulu. Most are related or politicians.
History erased....history rewritten.
(As an aside.....my brother told me that anyone who questions Obama's election, performance or history there is met with scorn...and sometimes vandalism.)
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posted on
02/22/2009 12:54:02 PM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
To: Beckwith
There are mysteries that surround the time when Obama came to the mainland to attend college at Occidental. That's why those subpoena's from there are so important. Here's SOME of the controversy... His mom goes out of her way not to mention him in the 1980 Divorce:
A FOIA document request of Obama's Selective Service Registration shows a 2008 sequence number for a supposed 1980 registration, an incorrect date of signature, an obsolete postal stamp and other discrepancies."
Obama Selective Service Signature
Obama Candidacy Signature
Here's one of many anecdotal accounts:
A retired INS agent who worked when Obama came into the United States stated he distinctly remembered Obama because of his 'slick' manners and speech. The agent says that he went back into the INS files and found the information and that Obama came into the USA on a FS-1 passport/visa. FS-1 is a foreign student visa classification, not a US citizen passport.
So, when you start looking at little things like all of that (and that's only a SMALL sample), you really start to wonder why Obama is fighting with such vigor to let the world see his records.
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posted on
02/22/2009 1:37:30 PM PST
by
BP2
(I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
To: BP2
Thanks for the ping BP - running behind reading...Church, car wash....settling in for reading now.
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posted on
02/22/2009 1:58:34 PM PST
by
IrishPennant
("We're surrounded...That simplifies our problem.")
To: Beckwith
Absolutely not. His father was a Kenyan.His father *may* be Kenyan. At this point, I would not be surprised to find out that his father was Darth Vader.
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posted on
02/22/2009 2:09:13 PM PST
by
Slings and Arrows
(This disaster brought to you by the failed Obama administration.)
To: Beckwith
Interesting the Congressman met with the governor of Papau as Obamanation’s face structure ethnically appears to be from Papua New Guinea. But the divorce papers prove Sr.’s his father doesn’t it? Hard to fathom so much can be fabricated.
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posted on
02/22/2009 2:34:35 PM PST
by
TheBigJ
To: Slings and Arrows
Well personally, my guess was Darth Sidious.
But as we have no DNA sample or matching light saber, we'll have to go with what we know:
Plus (+)
http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdoms dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.s children.
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.
Plus (+)
Plus (+)
Clause 5: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
That should be enough, IMO...
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posted on
02/22/2009 2:44:22 PM PST
by
BP2
(I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
To: Beckwith
My guess is that zero is just a front man for who knows what group of individuals who wanted to install a potus.
I think axelrod and Rhambo pretty much run the day to day since bama has never run anything in his life and I doubt he is starting now.Try and fit Hillary into the equation and you have a real mindboggle as well. Who knows what that deal was.
From what I have learned Emil Jones in the Ill. Senate put his name on enough important Senate bills to get him into the U.S. Senate and from there as they say, the rest is history.
It's probably significant to find out who runs Jones and what part of the Chicago mob or other org. he is involved with.
That's probably a worthwhile trail that leads to ozero.
Some group with in-depth cyber knowledge has carefully scrubbed the web and continues to do so even more of every possible lead we could get.
Problem with that is that to commit as many lies as zero has had to commit you have to make even more lies to cover the others up.
Sooner or later something blows up in your face and the entire house of cards falls down.
I still think the truth is out there and if we are persistent,have the funds to operate with and the right people to search out his history its still doable.
They can't kill or shut up everyone he has ever come in contact with so there have to be some living breathing witnesses to who this clown is and where he comes from. It's probably to us or others like us to dig it out.
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posted on
02/22/2009 3:20:56 PM PST
by
rodguy911
(HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
To: rodguy911
” They can’t kill or shut up everyone ..”
Funny you should mention that.
I watched a couple of minutes of Olbermann on Fri Night because O and Jonathan Alter were in hysterics about Alan Keyes and presumably the eligibility lawsuit.
Alter:
The nationality question was answered on election day by the voters.
Obama produced his birth certificate from the hospital where he was born
and posted it on his website.
Keyes is coming pretty close to inciting a riot by continuing to bring up the birth certificate question
and is coming close to a visit by the Secret Service.
Apparently, Barry thinks Secret Service = his SS.
To: Wild Irish Rogue; LucyT
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posted on
02/22/2009 8:03:42 PM PST
by
little jeremiah
(Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
To: BP2
Good hit!
I didn’t have the child care documents and have added them to The Obama File.
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posted on
02/23/2009 3:57:42 AM PST
by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
To: BP2
Of all the states that BO lived prior to Illinois, which has the cheapest car insurance? Look there. He probably just maintained and out of state license until he absolutely couldn’t any longer.
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posted on
02/23/2009 4:17:16 AM PST
by
Malsua
To: Malsua
The first time we see of Obama and the automobile is this:
Jerry Kellman, who hired him as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago, and is now a strong supporter, says it was "$10,000 a year and a $2,000 car allowance". Obama himself has given different numbers; his memoir says $10,000 (as well as the car), in his "Wesleyan speech, he gave it as "$12,000 a year plus $2,000 for an old, beat-up car", and when he announced his candidacy for president, it was "a group of churches had offered me a job as a community organizer for $13,000 a year".
Community Organizing
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posted on
02/23/2009 4:43:27 AM PST
by
Beckwith
(A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
To: Chief Engineer
Jr was back in HI in 1970, as we know from the interview with Weatherly Williams, regarding the first meeting of Jr and Frank Marshall Davis.Williams isn't necessary to verify that; it's in "Dreams," Page 58: "I had gone for several interviews with Punahou's admissions officer the previous summer." Meaning, in context, previous to his first attendance in Punahou's fifth grade in the fall of '71. And there's no clarification in the book as to whether he returned to Indonesia after those interviews.
From what classmates have said Jr attended classes in Indonesia and didnt return from one of the breaks the school had. I havent found it mentioned what break that might have been, but from the sounds of it, the break occurred during the school term so Jr was there before the break but not after the break.
I'm afraid I'm not the first to say this, but without a link, this statement is meaningless. Do you have a link, or the copy itself, to verify this, and what year are you referring to -- 1970 or 1971?
Sr had graduated from UH in June, 1962 according to the newspaper interviews given the day he left HI, but I do believe he was double dipping while attending UH....If he had been double dipping and receiving money not only from Elizabeth Mooney Kirk as well as from the federal government as a student of the newly formed East West Center it would explain the lack of complaining while living in the most expensive state of Hawaii!
Again, do you have anything to prove this theory?
I don't disagree with the theory that perhaps Sr. was "paid" for his services as surrogate father (which would explain his being able to live in accommodations other than the YMCA or campus housing) but something other than theory is needed to prove it.
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