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Global Warming Skeptics Question Authority
Nietzche is Dead ^ | 20 Dec 08 | foutsc

Posted on 12/20/2008 12:58:13 PM PST by foutsc

Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and it is shameful to surrender it too soon or to the first comer. -- George Santayana

Do not allow yourselves to be deceived: Great Minds are Skeptical. -- Friedrich Nietzsche

Millions of gullible world citizens have surrendered all sanity and skepticism to worship at Reverend Albert Gore's altar to Gaia.

Meanwhile, here are quotes from some of the world's leading scientists to remind us that the science is not "settled," nor is there a consensus. Both very unscientific terms, by the way:

“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

“The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.

“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico

“It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

“Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.

“After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.

“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

“Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

“Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.

“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

“The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata.

This collection of quotes comes courtesy of Mark Morano, dedicated staffer to Senator James Inhofe, Republican, Oklahoma. Senator Inhofe uses his good offices to expose the Global Warming panic. Go here to see his official Senate web site and the latest report.

TOPICS: Politics; Religion; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: bigbucks; climatechange; climatecycles; globalmarshallplan; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; hoax

1 posted on 12/20/2008 12:58:14 PM PST by foutsc
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To: foutsc

Another day... another day without sunspots. It’s going to get COLD(ER).

2 posted on 12/20/2008 1:03:01 PM PST by piytar
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To: foutsc; WL-law; Genesis defender; proud_yank; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; ...

Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 12/20/2008 1:11:51 PM PST by steelyourfaith
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To: foutsc; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off

Click on POGW graphic for full GW rundown


Ping me if you find one I've missed.

4 posted on 12/20/2008 1:26:56 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: foutsc
"Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist."

And by politicians. The truth is already known so why wait? People should feel deceived, played and righteously pissed off right now.

Politicians in general are a scuzzy bunch, so it's not at all surprising many of those charlatans would stir up as much irrational fear as possible to get votes and money.

But scientists are supposedly ruled by science and guided by the scientific method in the pursuit of truth. Those who have used and abused their trust to cash in on global warming are scuzzier than politicians.

5 posted on 12/20/2008 1:35:23 PM PST by GBA
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To: foutsc
related threads:

Man-Made Global Warming Supposedly Began 5,000 Years Ago


Obama names strong science team

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Crackpot John Holdren will become Obama's science adviser


Science magazine reports that John Holdren, a professional environmental judgment day doomsayer, is going to become Barack Obama's top science adviser.

See also NY Times Tierney Lab: Flawed science advice for Obama?
John Holdren is the ultimate example of the pseudointellectual impurities that have recently flooded universities and academies throughout the Western world.

Population growth means death

Do you want to know what is his specialization? Well, look at his publication list at No, he hasn't found anything about laser cooling, like Steven Chu, despite his PhD in plasma physics. Instead, he has only written 3 very well-known texts - with at least 100 citations - and all of them are about the "catastrophic" population growth. A few additional, newer articles with 50 citations or so are about the "catastrophic" climate change.

The most famous article, by far (400+ cits), is his and Paul Ehrlich's 1971 text in Science magazine,
Impact of Population Growth.
The subtitle says that "complacency concerning this component of man's predicament is unjustified and counterproductive". In other words, it is an unforgivable crime not to be hysterical about the population growth. Wow. They study the "interlocking crises" in population, resources, and environment that have been the "focus of countless papers, dozens of prestigious symposia, and a growing avalanche of books".

Recall that the second author, Paul Ehrlich, predicted that 4 billions of people (90% of the 1980 total), including 65 million Americans (28% of the 1980 figure), would perish of hunger in "Great Die-Off" in the 1980s. Well, Holdren and Ehrlich may have narcissistically talked about "prestigious symposia" but it's hard to change the fact that events where people compete who is going to propose a more absurd die-off scenario are just gatherings of pompous loons.

Do I really have to argue that their forecasts have been proven remarkably wrong? Do I have to argue that all similar papers are likely to be wrong because the "arguments" in them are simply not rational? It's no science.

In the particular Ehrlich-Holdren paper, they discussed five "theorems", as they boldly call this idiotic stuff. For example, the first "theorem" says that "population growth causes a disproportionate negative impact on the environment". The last one argues that "theoretical solutions to the problem are often not operational and sometimes they are not solutions". 

These are great theorems! They're so accurate, well-defined, rigorously proven, and universally valid! ;-) I am sure that in insane asylums, they would use different words than "theorems" to describe these manifestations of their anxiety disorders. The paper then studies variations of the I=PAT formula which is either completely vacuous or completely wrong, depending on your interpretation of the letters.

CO2 emissions mean death

The old predicted catastrophes about the "lethal population growth" have largely evaporated from the public discourse - "population growth" is no longer equated with "great die-off" - but people like Holdren have simply found a new kind of a catastrophe that apparently hasn't been fully discredited yet, the climate change. 

Nowadays, they equate "CO2 emissions" with a "great die-off". Details have changed but the dishonest, unscientific, extremely ideological, and political essence of their movement hasn't. These people are like RNA viruses of flu. You may think that you have already gained immunity against this stuff but instead, the viruses have mutated just a little bit and they're back. They will be always with us. 

These days, his main weapon is to articulate more radical and scary forecasts about the climate than (almost) anyone else who uses a proper English grammar. ;-) And he is always careful to be called "Professor" and "big guy" by all the journalists, see for example this BBC piece where he blames President Bush for a 7-meter rise of the sea level (??) and his recent op-ed in the Boston Globe where he attacks the climate skeptics, again without a glimpse of a rational argument. There is absolutely no valuable content in anything that Holdren has ever produced. It's just plain bullshit sold in such a way that gullible people happily eat it and smack their lips.

I simply can't stand pompous fools like that. Because of his Harvard affiliation, I may have talked to him during a Society of Fellows dinner and I may have forgotten: it's hard to imagine that I could smile with the knowledge I have today. You may also see Richard Lindzen's essay to learn more about the methods how John Holdren and others have elected themselves to the National Academy of Sciences and similar bodies. It's plain disgusting.


It's very bad that people whose approach to the world is the exact opposite of science - because they prefer irrational phobias, "prestige" of symposia, and visible jobs paid by gullible manipulated folks over rational, humble, careful, and ever more refined scientific arguments and findings - are being linked to science, and it is bad that President-elect Obama is helping to distort the definition of science and its proper role in the society in this way.

And that's the memo.

6 posted on 12/20/2008 1:47:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: foutsc
Skepticism is the chastity of the intellect, and it is shameful to surrender it too soon or to the first comer.

This is why Algore doesn't call us skeptics.

He calls us DENIERS to make the earth worshipers seem noble and sensible.

7 posted on 12/20/2008 2:29:30 PM PST by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: xcamel
Don't question authority. They'll taze you bro!


8 posted on 12/20/2008 2:48:17 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal should be a convenience store.)
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To: foutsc
Great Minds are Skeptical. -- Friedrich Nietzsche

I don't know who Friedrich is,,, but I'm so skeptical, I'm cynical. Does that make me a genius?

9 posted on 12/20/2008 3:42:14 PM PST by MrPiper
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To: foutsc
On a warming planet, or any warming gravitationally accreted system, the proportion of heavier particles will increase in accord with Boltzman mechanics.

CO2 = 44 amu, O2/N2 = 28+ amu

Johnny Suntrade (with nary a published climate article to his name)

10 posted on 12/20/2008 4:13:48 PM PST by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: jnsun
Here you go...

Lindzen on Climate "Science"

11 posted on 12/20/2008 4:18:41 PM PST by Publius6961 (Change is not a plan; Hope is not a strategy.)
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To: Publius6961
Whoa! Nice find. Printed for later assimilation. Thanks
12 posted on 12/20/2008 4:26:39 PM PST by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: foutsc

Good post. Bookmarked.

13 posted on 12/20/2008 6:07:49 PM PST by TigersEye (I threw my shoe at Mohammed and hit Allah in the butt.)
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To: piytar
Looking real bad. There is no chance for us to even fit into the lower end predicted active cycle for #24. December will more then likely be on the bottom of the graph below. What that potentially means now, is no significant warming trend at all from the peak activity years of Solar Cycle 24. Only possibly a few years were the cooling slows.

14 posted on 12/21/2008 1:58:10 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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15 posted on 12/21/2008 2:12:00 AM PST by DeaconRed (I will not work, I will bang on the drum all day (Todd Rundgren) till they stop giving away our $ $)
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16 posted on 10/15/2015 10:56:22 PM PDT by publius911 (Pissed?? You have NO idea!)
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To: DeaconRed

Actually, it’s infinity to 0, but He cloaks Himself in this finite world.

17 posted on 08/26/2016 4:36:15 PM PDT by rightwingcrazy ("We will not tolerate those who are intolerant to the intolerant.")
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