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"Something of Historic Proportion is Happening" (history repeating ?)
Atlas Shrugs ^ | 11-13-08

Posted on 11/13/2008 6:50:52 PM PST by STARWISE

A reader comment over at Dollard's place nails it.

(http://patdollard.com/)

Plain and simple .... and true. This is what I see. I wish I had written it. (hat tip mg)

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I am a student of history. Professionally. I have written 15 books in six languages, and have studied it all my life.

I think there is something monumentally large afoot, and I do not believe it is just a banking crisis, or a mortgage crisis, or a credit crisis. Yes these exist, but they are merely single facets on a very large gemstone that is only now coming into a sharper focus.

Something of historic proportions is happening. I can sense it because I know how it feels, smells, what it looks like, and how people react to it.

Yes, a perfect storm may be brewing, but there is something happening within our country that has been evolving for about ten - fifteen years. The pace has dramatically quickened in the past two.

We demand and then codify into law the requirement that our banks make massive loans to people we know they can never pay back? Why?

We learn just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has “loaned” two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms.

That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the 700B we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of “we the people,” who loaned our powers to our elected leaders.

Apparently not.

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy. Why?

We have intentionally dumbed down our schools, ignored our history, and no longer teach our founding documents, why we are exceptional, and why we are worth preserving.

Students by and large cannot write, think critically, read, or articulate. Parents are not revolting, teachers are not picketing, school boards continue to back mediocrity.

Why?

We have now established the precedent of protesting every close election (now violently in California over a proposition that is so controversial that it wants marriage to remain between one man and one woman.

Did you ever think such a thing possible just a decade ago?.

We have corrupted our sacred political process by allowing unelected judges to write laws that radically change our way of life, and then mainstream Marxist groups like ACORN and others to turn our voting system into a banana republic. To what purpose?

Now our mortgage industry is collapsing, housing prices are in free fall, major industries are failing, our banking system is on the verge of collapse, social security is nearly bankrupt, as is medicare and our entire government, our education system is worse than a joke

I teach college and know precisely what I am talking about)–the list is staggering in its length, breadth, and depth.

It is potentially 1929 x ten. And we are at war with an enemy we cannot name for fear of offending people of the same religion, who cannot wait to slit the throats of your children if they have the opportunity to do so.

And now we have elected a man no one knows anything about, who has never run so much as a Dairy Queen, let alone a town as big as Wasilla, Alaska.

All of his associations and alliances are with real radicals in their chosen fields of employment, and everything we learn about him, drip by drip, is unsettling if not downright scary

(Surely you have heard him speak about his idea to create and fund a mandatory civilian defense force stronger than our military for use inside our borders? No? Oh of course. The media would never play that for you over and over and then demand he answer it. Sarah Palin’s pregnant daughter and $150,000 wardrobe is more imporant.)

Mr. Obama’s winning platform can be boiled down to one word: change.

Why?

I have never been so afraid for my country and for my children as I am now.

This man campaigned on bringing people together, something he has never, ever done in his professional life.

In my assessment, Obama will divide us along philosophical lines, push us apart, and then try to realign the pieces into a new and different power structure. Change is indeed coming. And when it comes, you will never see the same nation again.

And that is only the beginning.

And I thought I would never be able to experience what the ordinary, moral German felt in the mid-1930s. In those times, the savior was a former smooth-talking rabble-rouser from the streets, about whom the average German knew next to nothing.

What they did know was that he was associated with groups that shouted, shoved, and pushed around people with whom they disagreed; he edged his way onto the political stage through great oratory and promises.

Economic times were tough, people were losing jobs, and he was a great speaker. And he smiled and waved a lot. And people, even newspapers, were afraid to speak out for fear that his “brown shirts” would bully them into submission. And then, he was duly elected to office, a full-throttled economic crisis at hand [the Great Depression].

Slowly but surely he seized the controls of government power, department by department, person by person, bureaucracy by bureaucracy. The kids joined a Youth Movement in his name, where they were taught what to think.

How did he get the people on his side? He did it promising jobs to the jobless, money to the moneyless, and goodies for the military-industrial complex.

He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world.

He did it with a compliant media–did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and . . . change. And the people surely got what they voted for.

(Look it up if you think I am exaggerating.)

Read your history books. Many people objected in 1933 and were shouted down, called names, laughed at, and made fun of.

When Winston Churchill pointed out the obvious in the late 1930s while seated in the House of Lords in England (he was not yet Prime Minister), he was booed into his seat and called a crazy troublemaker. He was right, though.

Don’t forget that Germany was the most educated, cultured country in Europe. It was full of music, art, museums, hospitals, laboratories, and universities. And in less than six years–a shorter time span than just two terms of the U. S. presidency–it was rounding up its own citizens, killing others, abrogating its laws, turning children against parents, and neighbors against neighbors. All with the best of intentions, of course.

The road to Hell is paved with them.

As a practical thinker, one not overly prone to emotional decisions, I have a choice: I can either believe what the objective pieces of evidence tell me (even if they make me cringe with disgust); I can believe what history is shouting to me from across the chasm of seven decades; or I can hope I am wrong by closing my eyes, having another latte, and ignoring what is transpiring around me.

Some people scoff at me, others laugh, or think I am foolish, naive, or both. Perhaps I am. But I have never been afraid to look people in the eye and tell them exactly what I believe–and why I believe it.

I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bailout; change; financialcrisis; mandatoryservice; marxist; obama; obamatruthfile; radicals; socialist; thecomingdarkness
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To: 5280rwinger

It is, isn’t it?


121 posted on 11/13/2008 9:07:17 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: STARWISE

Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.

Mayor: What do you mean, "biblical"?

Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.

Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.

Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!

Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes...

Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!

122 posted on 11/13/2008 9:08:08 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

We flooded the world with an attitude of debt.
We got in bed with the tyrants.
We started the United Nations.
We are the home of the globalist philosophy.
We exported a doctrine of slavery to the third world disguised as capitalism.
We imported coffee and fruits from the third world while their peoples starved.
We were the wealthiest country in the world.
We pushed Hollywood garbage and pornography all over the world.
We are hated by everyone else.
We were a Christian nation.
We committed spiritual adultery & fornication of every kind.

We are now bankrupt and we are going to pay.

God have mercy. Just save our souls.

America, return to Christ...I beg you.


123 posted on 11/13/2008 9:08:15 PM PST by TheRiverNile
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To: Ouderkirk
My current tin foil hat theory is that Eliot Spitzer was determined to oust Hank Greenberg from AIG because he vehemently opposed selling credit default swaps. Someone wanted Greenberg out at exactly the right time.

Behind Insurer’s Crisis, Blind Eye to a Web of Risk

124 posted on 11/13/2008 9:09:06 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: STARWISE; LucyT; Calpernia; Beckwith; Fred Nerks
I pray I am wrong. I do not think I am.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are right on. I have been talking about it for months. I also am an historian, but you are far more exoert than I am.

I think the best writing I have seen on the issue is by Jonah Goldberg's well annotated serious academic work ( not polemic as it has been painted by the nationalist sociliast press)

If you haven't read it, get a copy and go through it:

Jonah Goldberg: " Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of AMerica's Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning"

We have our work cut out for us. Next they will try to disarm America and traduce our military.

125 posted on 11/13/2008 9:12:59 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: LucyT

Is this the “generated crisis” that BIDEN referred to just recently.

When he stated,’”American’s will resist!”

Iceland recently asked for a $6 billion loan from Russia, but the UN is stunned that something else is being asked for?

Was there something on the thread somewhere that this money went to...was it China??

The American people DEMAND an answer !!!!!!!


126 posted on 11/13/2008 9:15:10 PM PST by Iowan
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To: nkycincinnatikid

I’d be willing to bet that Germans in the 1930s were a lot more religious than modern Americans. Whether they had internalized as much free market ideas as we have, is a different matter. Plus, people give up a lot for a promise of economic security in times of stress.


127 posted on 11/13/2008 9:18:48 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: Safrguns
“God will bring us back from this ...” Um, we have willingly, under the guise of privacy rights, slaughtered more than 48 million alive unborn since 1973, just since 1973! The leap into such evil gathered speed more quickly than people realize. Evil is now deemed 'sophistication'.

Think about it: when it is necessary to pass a law to affirm something already covered in the Constitution so that born alive infants will be protected from being murdered via purposed neglect, what kind of spirit predominates in such a nation! And what sort of people willingly, gladly elect a man who fought for years to prevent such protection for these most vulnerable human beings?

We have an elected president promising to roll back ALL the restraints which have been legislated to slow the slaughter. If his history in Illinois is to be indication for his perspective, any specific group from whom he chooses to remove Constitutional rights will be as vulnerable as the Jews and Gypsies in 1930's Germany! If he will work to cancel the Constitutional rights of newly born alive, no one is safe from him.

Sorry, FRiend, God appears to have given us over to our lusts as a nation. He has Spiritually removed His restraining Spirit from this wicked nation. He will not bring this nation back to repeat/continue the slaughter of His gifts to US. You are hearing the voices of demons speaking through Americans, demanding marriage rights for sexual degenerates, demanding the right to murder unborn yet alive and sensing children and even newly born alive infants. Soon, this wicked man's minions will be demanding that you and I be silenced. And if we persist, they will demand we be silenced permanently.

Embryonic aged humans are about to become, by government imperative, mere commodities to be exploited for their body parts—their stem cells—to address the illnesses/infirmities of older humans.

BLOAT, stop expecting things to turn around and prepare to protect your family and closest friends. Mayhem and chaos are marching toward US just over the horizon. Sodom and Gomorrah were 'cloisters-of-monks' compared to the wickedness of our present America.

The very atmosphere around you is saturated with the most disgusting pornography and degeneracy, being broadcast everywhere to be translated by viewing/audio units. If God hears prayers spoken in your mind, what must the filth permeating our world be as an offense to Him? We have far exceeded the pervasiveness of wickedness over Sodom ... they didn't have continuous bombardment and saturation of the electromagnetic spectrum with the filth we have produced!

Think about how completely wicked this nation has become.

128 posted on 11/13/2008 9:18:50 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Candor7

Thanks ..but I’m not the historian ... the writer is ... ;)


129 posted on 11/13/2008 9:21:29 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: RatsDawg
I'd prefer to think of ourselves this way, on the right side:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iYbEPZVVIA

130 posted on 11/13/2008 9:34:55 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: Ted Grant
Your blindness is spiritual, your affliction is spiritual in nature. The same affliction is rampant in our nation. Be still and watch what is unfolding before you. If you do not believe in spiritual discernment, at least keep your nattering nabob comments to the DU boards where they resonate with degenerate minds.

Do you fear Christians and ignore abortionists and their bloody industry as 'none of your business'?

Do you follow a daily routine with only the occasional interruption in traffic or business activity?

Is you family basically safe and well fed, such that starving people in other parts of the world are a sad reality but not your problem to consider?

Is sexual degeneracy the unseemly alternate lifestyle of a few of whom you try to avoid but tolerate in your midst?

Have you joined a throng of voices crying out for ‘change’ and ‘unity’?

Such was the general state of Sodom and Gomorrah the day before Lot and his little family left.

It was a big safe drunken party in the King's Chamber where/when Belshazzar received his message of doom for Babylon the Great.

Trim your lamp, be at the ready, vigilant. Change is coming ... straight from the minds of demons.

131 posted on 11/13/2008 9:41:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: STARWISE
Years ago NBC did a couple of hour-long documentaries covering the historical events of various decades early in the 1900's. The one they did on "Life in the Thirties" ended with a poignant section on the World's Fair in New York in 1940, with film of the various attractions of the fair and people innocently enjoying them, set to a gorgeous Robert Russell Bennett arrangement of "September Song" ("It's a long long way from May to September" etc). The gist of the narration by Alexander Scourby was the comparison of the lightheartedness the country was finally experiencing as the Great Depression eased somewhat with the terrible and tragic circumstances it would be experiencing just around the corner for the next five years as WWII unfolded...lately I've been mumbling to myself one evocative line from that narration.....

"Through the fun and fantasy of the fair, something whispers - 'it is later than you think'".........

132 posted on 11/13/2008 9:42:48 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: o_zarkman44
Hmmm...

Ambush at Ruby Ridge

133 posted on 11/13/2008 9:44:55 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: Twinkie

All the WWII era folks (my mom, mother in law, aunt, etc.) are terrified. They also see the parallels with Hitler. It’s eerie.


134 posted on 11/13/2008 9:54:47 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Don't blame me, I voted for John McCain and Sarah Palin. Well, for Sarah Palin, anyway.)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Philo1962; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; ...


Good graphic post potlatch!



135 posted on 11/13/2008 9:55:05 PM PST by devolve ( ____"hussein the creepy" -- Evan Thomas - Nudesweek ____)
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To: MHGinTN
Sorry, FRiend, God appears to have given us over to our lusts as a nation. He has Spiritually removed His restraining Spirit from this wicked nation.

Removal of His restraining Spirit is a reference to the rapture, which I would say is not very far off. Before that occurs, there are just a few other key prophecies yet to be fulfilled, one of which I believe we will see happen next year. See Ezekiel 38.

As for God deserting us, I share your fear and anger at America for what it has done... but be careful not to view the entire nation through the prism of the media. Don't forget that in THE most liberal and perverse state of the union, voters in California struck down Gay marriage... also in Florida. Conservatism / Faith based values did not lose... Obama had to lie and cheat about his positions to win the election. There is no question in my mind that this nation will suffer... but it's not over. God always provides an escape. Yes... there is much evil here, but there is much more good. The evil is just getting more attention. Sodom and Gamora was 99.9 % wicked.

We also have a tendency to focus on our nation as if it were the center of God's universe... it is not... Israel is.

Do you think for a moment that God is going to allow Obama to compromise Israel's security? Personally, I think God has chosen Obama for us for 2 reasons... 1 to wake our lazy butts up, and 2 as an act of protection from what will occur in the middle east next year. I don't think He wants us anywhere around when He reveals to the world His sovereignty and protection over Israel.

God has not deserted us... He is using us. Pride comes before a fall, and I've never seen the left this proud and emboldened before.
136 posted on 11/13/2008 9:55:31 PM PST by Safrguns
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To: STARWISE

Gotta read tomorrow bookmark.


137 posted on 11/13/2008 9:58:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: STARWISE
Thanks ..but I’m not the historian ... the writer is ... ;)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Could have fooled me!!!!

LOL.

Sorry, eye problem, ( seriously). I shouldn't even be in front of a PC screen, can't stay away.

138 posted on 11/13/2008 10:02:08 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: STARWISE; PhilDragoo; devolve; Fiddlstix; y'all

bump !!!


139 posted on 11/13/2008 10:03:55 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Obama, WHO is Bill Ayers and WHY are you still friends with him? Please RSVP asap!)
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To: CanadianMusherinMI

Good connection ..
something’s happening here.
For sure.


140 posted on 11/13/2008 10:05:39 PM PST by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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