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Boomer Bust
Nietzsche is Dead ^ | 17 oct 08 | foutsc

Posted on 10/17/2008 10:18:20 AM PDT by foutsc

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To: GoLightly
Doesn't matter if you voted for him or not. He's the face of New Yorkers for me. Wear the badge proudly & quit "running away from blame". "Sometimes the truth hurts."

Oh, please. This is lame. You guys are making my case for me on this thread. You're in complete denial about this. Every generation before you is responsible, but the LARGEST generation is largely blameless? What color is the sky in your world?

61 posted on 10/17/2008 1:17:29 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Wondering when The Generation That Won't Shut Up will do so.)
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To: foutsc

Obamas and the Clintons: Apotheosis of the Baby Boomer Generation.


62 posted on 10/17/2008 1:19:47 PM PDT by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: Paved Paradise
Many of the boomers where also influenced in a sneaky way by the communists of the Frankfurt School. Herbert Marcus was a communist critic who wrote One Dimensional Man -- a popular book back then -- and made the statement "Make LOVE not war" which became a popular hippie slogan. The Communists influenced in both a direct and indirect way the hippie generation to rebel, especially against the establishment and the Vietnam war. Again, the Frankfurt School came to America to escape the Nazis but also was the viper in the heart of her bosom. Believe it or not the USSR also played a part in shaping liberal (hippie) thought -- normally people wouldn't think of it, but its true. Liberation theology back then (being a hippie), as now (with Wright), is very close to Marxism.

The sad thing is that the student protesters who couldn't bring down the establishment back then became profs and that is why the university is left leaning today. That is why Bill Ayers, Ward Churchill and many postmodern thinkers are there.

63 posted on 10/17/2008 1:20:06 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: foutsc

Oh, I think it’s a particularly fine rant. A bit too general and it ignores that the WWII generation is responsible for worshipping FDR and raised these kids. As a kid in the 50s I was perticularly traumatized the the constant threat of nuclear war so I think the boomers can be forgiven a bit because we really didn’t believe we would survive past 1980 or so. I do know a bunch a whining liberal boomers who fit the description thoufh. But I also know people of all generations who have drunk the commie kool-aid and believe they are owed a comfortable life without having to work for it and expect the govt to solve all their problems.

Actually I think the WWII generation relies on govt more than boomers. Plenty of boomers I know are emphatically NOT like this. The AARP is the prime example of the WWII generation becoming looters of the clearest water.

Maybe if the word “boomer” was changed to “liberal” the rant would be more accurate.


64 posted on 10/17/2008 1:22:48 PM PDT by Seruzawa
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To: Paved Paradise; Major Matt Mason

All this “rationality”... To Major, we’re culpable — it’s our fault — no redemption.

It’s amazing to me how many similar posts I’ve read like this the last few years. Now, for God’s sake, we have *boomer* derangement syndrome.

Major you’re ignoring the facts as presented. No one generation got us into this mess. The “Greatest generation” stirred us up, and some professors who are much older than the Boomer era are still teaching Leftist crap in college even today.

Then, the youngest, those just out of college, are the ones that’ll take it up the middle, to add to your colorful football analogy.

But, I’m a boomer. There’s no excuse for me, is there? Maybe when you take over, you can assign me a clinic where the lethal injections are properly performed as I do my “duty to die.”

BDS to the max!


65 posted on 10/17/2008 1:23:04 PM PDT by Mugwump
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To: Seruzawa
Maybe if the word “boomer” was changed to “liberal” the rant would be more accurate.

More accurate, but not as personally satisfying, apparently.

66 posted on 10/17/2008 1:30:52 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Seruzawa

You make some excellent points. Each of us needs to decide what we believe and stand up for it, because this country is being remade as we speak.


67 posted on 10/17/2008 1:33:49 PM PDT by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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To: foutsc

Mommy didn’t nurse you long enough did she? Poor baby.


68 posted on 10/17/2008 1:36:23 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: Seruzawa
Maybe if the word “boomer” was changed to “liberal” the rant would be more accurate.

I'd change it to "leftist" instead of boomer or liberal. It's collectivism that's the killer. The left slices & dices people into interest groups, yet despite the differences, they all believe that government is the answer to meet their desires. You're no longer an individual, you're a representative of some subgroup within the collective.

One look at this thread shows how it can turn some with similar values against each other.

69 posted on 10/17/2008 1:53:10 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Mugwump

I hate to even say it but your last paragraph is probably more prescient than you think. I think this is the way we are heading.

My mom complains a lot about health care and everything else these days. Meanwhile, I tell her to count her blessings because from what I’m seeing in so many of our young people (who embrace euthanasia, abortion, etc.) they’ll just kill us off, rather than support us.

The respect for life seems to be slowly slipping away.


70 posted on 10/17/2008 1:53:23 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Blind Eye Jones

You’re last paragraph is right on. The radicals finally realized how they can really effect change.


71 posted on 10/17/2008 1:54:22 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Oops, “your” not “you’re.”


72 posted on 10/17/2008 1:54:55 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Mugwump
Maybe when you take over, you can assign me a clinic where the lethal injections are properly performed as I do my “duty to die.”

Well, lethal injections seem a little harsh. I think repeated listenings of rap music will do just fine. Or maybe disco music, in keeping with the Boomer theme. But this is good. You've managed to blame previous generations and the younger generations in your post while ignoring the elephant in the room. The older generations are mostly gone, and the youngsters don't have the clout or the size of the boomer generation. Who, then, takes the blame for the current mess? No one?

73 posted on 10/17/2008 1:58:01 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Wondering when The Generation That Won't Shut Up will do so.)
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To: GoLightly

Well said.

It’s fascinating how some people just can’t seem to grasp liberal tactics.

They hijack the lexicon by calling it the Iraq INVASION, or occupation and lo and behold even conservatives begin abandoning the more accurate Iraq LIBERATION.

NOW, we see not just class envy, or racial division, or feminism/sexual/homosexual division but actual GENERATIONAL envy, falling right into their web!


74 posted on 10/17/2008 1:58:43 PM PDT by tpanther (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Edmund Burke)
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To: Major Matt Mason
Oh, please. This is lame. You guys are making my case for me on this thread. You're in complete denial about this. Every generation before you is responsible, but the LARGEST generation is largely blameless? What color is the sky in your world?

What do you think I meant when I said the "worst of my cohort?" If that sounds like I'm giving all people of my age group a pass, you're sadly mistaken.

75 posted on 10/17/2008 2:01:33 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Major Matt Mason

Right.

No redemption.

I get it.


76 posted on 10/17/2008 2:03:14 PM PDT by Mugwump
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To: Major Matt Mason

You know, instead of just mouthing your opinions, why don’t you back up your statements with actual facts. You are starting to sound like the Obama supporters: no substance to what you say.

Not only did we not start it but I don’t even believe MOST took the ball. The term Boomers is really a marketing term anyway and to even try and say that everyone born in the U.S. between the years 1946 and 1964 are somehow corporately responsible for “taking the ball” shows just how simpleminded you are being. For instance, take a woman born in Alabama in 1946 and compare her to a woman born in 1960 Los Angeles. How similar do you think they’d be in almost anything?

It’s patently ridiculous. Again, a marketing ploy. Sure, I think there are a host of cultural things that many of us can rhapsodize nostalgically over - for me these are things like roller skating; The Little Rascals; living in a time when the door was not locked at night; eating supper together as a family with no television allowed; thinking a TV Dinner was cool... I could go on and on. However, these are not deep philosophical or spiritual things that inform our ideals.

For every bra-burning, Woodstock attending, LSD-dropping person from this period, I bet I could find 10 to 1 who didn’t participate in any of this nonsense. And not only that, I would submit to you that many, many people that did these things were born in the 30’s and using this time as an excuse to do crazy things.

Do you think the 20’s were sedate? Do you think the stuff Poe, Shelly, Byron and their crowd were sedate? Be honest sir.


77 posted on 10/17/2008 2:05:21 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

“I hate to even say it but your last paragraph is probably more prescient than you think. I think this is the way we are heading.”

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I’ve felt that way for several years now. We’re seen as an obstacle, not people; just an obstacle that has to be eliminated.


78 posted on 10/17/2008 2:06:17 PM PDT by Mugwump
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To: foutsc
I think that this screed blames a whole demographic for the acts of a few of its members and many of its predecessors. It's like blaming the pistil and stamen of a flower for the deeds of the whole plant.

There were plenty of boomers who were conservative, despised the hole hippie - yippie thing, fought for their country, and tried to carry forward the principles of this nation.

And there were plenty of people born before the boomer generation who were happy to see the flowering of the seed they and their predecessors sowed.

Don't forget all the fellow travellers, the Reds of the thirties and forties, and before them the eugenicists and "scientific" types who viewed matrimony as a lingering remnant of an archaic religion.

Yeah, I'm a booomer.

79 posted on 10/17/2008 2:12:06 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mugwump

It will get worse. As a Christian, however, I have my hope in my Redeemer. He tells us that in this world there will be trouble and I’m afraid trouble for us is spelled O-B-A-M-A.


80 posted on 10/17/2008 2:12:58 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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