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FR & McCain: What Happened? (Vanity)
Free Republic | Senor Zorro

Posted on 08/29/2008 8:51:20 AM PDT by Señor Zorro

August is rolling over into September and, before we know it, election day will be upon us. Perhaps it is merely my impression, but most here on FR seem to have settled down with the idea of John McCain both as the Republican nominee (which he is certain to be, regardless) and, even, as President of the United States. The initial candidate debate has all but faded and virtually all here have gelled back into the Republican camp instead of the "Republicans for Romney", "Republicans for Giuliani", "Republicans for Hunter", etc. ad nauseum, ad infinitum. No doubt, this is precisely what the party dons are happy to see: lively debate during the primaries and then the base falls lockstep in line with the leadership in their infinite wisdom.

And it makes me feel like I am in the Twilight Zone. Compare the tenor of the threads, between McCain's maverick moments during Bush's presidency, especially the "Gang of 14" incident, and now. Does anyone remember the hate for "The Maverick"? The "Traitor"? Two years ago, how many here would have voted for McCain. The reason for the change, most would say, is political pragmatism. We gotta stop Obama. How many here would pick Gerald Ford over Ronald Reagan today? Not many, I should think. Yet, when Carter won the general election, we, as a nation, got Reagan after Carter managed to spend four years highlighting everything that is wrong with liberalism. It is easy to say that we will take McCain so that we will not have Obama. It is giving up the long term good to maybe (I stress maybe; the winner of this contest will be far from certain) prevent a present evil. A lesser evil. That is precious little consolation.

As soon as that line is crossed, there will be no chance left of the Republican party going back. They know that the faithful will plod along, voting Republican though the Republican party has long since turned its back on their principles.

I will vote third party--not because I think that the candidate will win (numerically, I think it is all but impossible, though God works miracles in his own time). Nor because I think the candidate is ideal (if that were the standard, not a single human being could be elected to any office), but because I will not cross this line in the sand.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: election; mccain; mccainlist; obama; thirdparty; yayanothervanity
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My rant for the year. I think this makes two vanities total for me, so I don't really feel bad. :)
1 posted on 08/29/2008 8:51:21 AM PDT by Señor Zorro
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To: Señor Zorro

I was one of 137 residents of CT who voted for Hunter.


2 posted on 08/29/2008 8:57:10 AM PDT by wastedyears (Show me your precious darlings, and I will crush them all)
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To: Señor Zorro
I will vote third party

At least be honest. You are supporting Barack Obama.

3 posted on 08/29/2008 8:58:37 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Señor Zorro

Never going to be a day that I spend five dollars in fuel driving to the polls to vote for insane.


4 posted on 08/29/2008 9:00:19 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: Señor Zorro

Well, we can’t go back. You don’t get mulligans or do-overs in politics, so our only choice is to go forward.


5 posted on 08/29/2008 9:00:26 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Vigilantism will arise where the justice system is viewed as overly lenient and/or ineffective.)
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To: Señor Zorro
I will vote third party--not because I think that the candidate will win (numerically, I think it is all but impossible, though God works miracles in his own time). Nor because I think the candidate is ideal (if that were the standard, not a single human being could be elected to any office), but because I will not cross this line in the sand.

The rant is much appreciated. Sometimes, when you're faced with two evils, you have to fight both of them.

6 posted on 08/29/2008 9:01:52 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (What can I say? It's a gift. And I didn't get a receipt, so I can't exchange it.)
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To: Señor Zorro

What happened? Barry Soetoro happened! John McCain isn’t running against Harry Truman or JFK.


7 posted on 08/29/2008 9:02:26 AM PDT by devere
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To: Señor Zorro

And, after nationalized health care and 3 or 4 more liberal Supreme Court justices, it will be too late to reconsider.


8 posted on 08/29/2008 9:02:39 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Drill Here! Drill Now! Pay Less! Sign the petition at http://www.americansolutions.com/)
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To: Señor Zorro

Never going to be a day that I spend five dollars in fuel driving to the polls to vote for insane.


9 posted on 08/29/2008 9:03:17 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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To: Señor Zorro

Never going to be a day that I spend five dollars in fuel driving to the polls to vote for insane.


10 posted on 08/29/2008 9:04:29 AM PDT by org.whodat (Republicans should support the SAM Walton business model, and then drill???)
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Why would McCain need our votes when he has all the crossover votes from Hillary supporters?

THAT is how far left he is.

11 posted on 08/29/2008 9:05:48 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
And, after nationalized health care and 3 or 4 more liberal Supreme Court justices, it will be too late to reconsider.

From Obama or McCain? Not to mention when 30 million new uneducated entitlement-demanding illegals are given amnesty by either one, that'll ruin the country even quicker.
12 posted on 08/29/2008 9:17:44 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Señor Zorro

The choice before you is clear. Do you want a .22 shot to the leg or a .45 shot to the chest? Neither is appealing, but I know without a doubt which I will choose.


13 posted on 08/29/2008 9:17:57 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Señor Zorro

If Ford had won, we wouldn’t have had Carter. Afghanistan probably wouldn’t have been overrun by the Soviet Union, and Iran wouldn’t have turned from an ally to the biggest threat to the world.

Consequently, we probably wouldn’t have ever made friends with Hussein, Iraq never would have become powerful enough to invade their neighbors, and we may have avoided two middle east wars.

And we don’t know that the Republican party wouldn’t have been just as strong in opposing the Soviet Empire.

We may not have had Reagan. But the world might still have been a better place.


14 posted on 08/29/2008 9:19:34 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: iowamark
You are supporting Barack Obama.

Not supporting one candidate does not constitute supporting the other. Unless, you assume our votes are to be taken for granted. (ie., if the Dems assume our votes are bought and paid for, they'd say that not voting is a vote for McCain).

Your illogic is just that.
15 posted on 08/29/2008 9:20:59 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Señor Zorro

I think we should accept McCain. The alternative doesnt bear thinking about. It is my belief that if the election were held today, McCain would clean up. We have all bitten bullets to save us from overt socialism. Im going to have to bite another one. This election isnt about restoring Reaganism, its about prevent the fairness doctrine, electing someone who wasnt even born here, (still no birth certificate, I know where MINE is, he doesnt and wants to President), a pull out from Iraq, and becoming a third world country..


16 posted on 08/29/2008 9:29:38 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Drill Now, Vote Nobama, and Oust the Third Word Democrat Congress)
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To: Señor Zorro

I’m writing in Duncan Hunter and then supporting my state’s local column.


17 posted on 08/29/2008 9:36:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: cardinal4

Sigh. I think I can vote McCain with the Palin pick. I’m still upset about the climate change plank in the platform, but at least the plank is qualified that we shouldn’t hurt the economy to fight climate change.


18 posted on 08/29/2008 9:38:44 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: Señor Zorro

Oh third party! How Cute! Who is third party running this year? Is it the Easter Bunny? Or ManBearPig?


19 posted on 08/29/2008 9:39:35 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa (The goo on John Kerry's flip-flops)
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To: Señor Zorro

bmflr and B4DH


20 posted on 08/29/2008 9:46:16 AM PDT by Kevmo (A person's a person, no matter how small. ~Horton Hears a Who)
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