Posted on 07/23/2008 12:40:56 PM PDT by Polarik
But that is the November 14, 1986 version of the rules. Wikipedia notes that different rules apply for persons born abroad to one U.S. citizen before that date. It goes on to note United States law on this subject changed multiple times throughout the twentieth century, and the law as it existed at the time of the individual's birth controls.
So, do you have links to the specific law in effect when Senator Obama was born?
(Not that it is any more than academic exercise since another poster to this thread has supplied a link to the Obama birth notice in the local Hawaiian newspaper, thereby giving further weight to the claim he was born in Hawaii.)
Here is a link to a legal opinion which sets forth the nuances of the law and the effective dates of the relevant modifications: "Obama and McCain: Citizenship And Eligibility--Legal Issues Vanity | July 4, 2008 | David"; http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2040753/posts
There are two holes in the opinion as set forth. The legal research engine I had when I wrote it does not reach the effective date of the modification that took the "after age" cut off from 16 to 14--since Stanley Ann missed, even if the age was 14, I have not viewed it as a relevant question.
The significant change took the period from 5 years to 2 years--as set out in the opinion, that change covered persons born after November, 1986 and thus does not affect Obama.
The other hole is 8 USCA Sec. 1409(c) which governs persons born out of wedlock which I now believe is irrelevant to Obama's situation.
I don't view the newspaper clipping as dispositive in any way. In fact, I have forecast that we would find evidence of a filing around August 8, 1961. The issue is what the underlying facts are.
Someone on the mother's side, either Stanley Ann or one of her parents, was concerned about the citizenship issue and took steps to address it.
It would be helpful if someone would look at the other Hawaii newspapers for the period of the first two weeks of August 1991 and determine if the announcement is anywhere else, perhaps with additional information.
The local title company could look at the address given in the note and determine who was in title on that date--maybe find a lease.
An increasingly important question for the Hawaii authorities is the data underlying the August 8, 1961 filing--at what hospital was he born? Who delivered him and how? I continue to believe that is the reason the campaign is concealing the birth records and obstructing access to Mrs. Dunham Sr. and to Sarah in Kenya.
Horse droppings.
It is such an unresolved issue that in the last election cycle McCaskill submitted a bill to establish the eligibility to hold the office of the president to anyone born to a U.S. citizen who is serving overseas as an active or reserve member of the U.S. armed forces.
Why? Because senator McCain's father was a Navy officer serving in the Canal Zone when McCain was born in Panama (NOT IN THE CANAL ZONE). That makes him technically ineligible in many minds.
The laws was never passed. Whether McCain is eligible is still an open question.
If it is not such an issue McCaskill wouldn't have gone through the unsuccessful effort to try to clarify the non-issue.
It was an issue then. It is an issue now. Should McCain be elected the "progressives" will insure it remains an on-going issue. It will be their "modern" version of "selected, not elected", and "He's not MY president!"
McCaskill wasn't able to get her bill passed. The most McCain has saying that congress recognizes his eligibility is a "sense of the senate".
As if the senate had a lick of sense...
Do you have a job?
Serious question.
Here's another thought. I've seen many people spelling Obama as "Obamah."
If that is a legitimate variant of his name, the number of letters in each of his three names would be 666!
Oops, I can’t add, either.
Sure he does...as an English Professor.
I saw a great graphic on some FR thread that showed “the only difference between Obama and Osama is just some BS.”
I'll give him a bit more time since he might be in class...
Yup, that’s it. It makes a lasting impression, unlike a forged stamp on the back of a birth certificate.
Islam borrowed much from Christianity and Judaism.
Yup.
The very first recorded words out of The Serpent’s mouth were “Hath not the Lord said...”
Satan has a long track record of twisting Scripture to his own ends and for our destruction, hasn’t he?
Yes, a Hildabeast operative would have been motivated to disclose damaging information a long time ago if it was to diminish Senator Obama’s chances to gain the Democratic nomination.
It was here last PM. I’ll look.
bump
Do you have link to interview video? Have lost link.
Gah!
No.
Just a little BS is right.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.