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Iraq's July Mid-Point (a single-digit month?)
iCasualties.org ^ | 7/15/2008 | self

Posted on 07/14/2008 9:20:35 PM PDT by Southack

A single-digit month.

Looking at the coalition fatalities for the first half of July, 2008 shows something remarkable...something not yet noted by any mainstream news agencies or blogs.

At first glance, the stats show that 6 good Americans gave their lives for our country so far this month in Iraq.

But that number of 6 doesn't tell the tale.

Looking more closely at the numbers, two of our lost soldiers were due to non-hostile work accidents (e.g. one was electrocuted).

But that doesn't mean that we've lost 4 good men to combat this month...you see...two of those lost to combat were killed at the height of the Surge, way back in May of 2007. They are shown in stats for this month because that's when their bodies were recovered.

This means that two of our grave losses were from last year, not this month's combat...and two other losses were due to non-hostile causes.

In other words, for the first half of July, 2008, the U.S. has lost two good men to combat in Iraq.

This is not D-Day 1944. Thousands haven't been lost on a single Normandy beach in minutes.

We've lost two in two weeks to enemy combat.

If the second half of July mimmicks the first, we'll have a single-digit of combat losses in Iraq this month.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: fallen; iraq; oif; progress; war
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Now I don't know about you, but just how quiet does Iraq have to become before the answer is so obvious that even Democrats have to admit that Iraq is stable, prosperous, growing, and...

...won.

1 posted on 07/14/2008 9:20:36 PM PDT by Southack
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To: wretchard; jveritas; Jameison; Travis McGee; blam; Squantos; Lazamataz; SJackson; yonif; ...

A development of note...


2 posted on 07/14/2008 9:22:21 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Well, since the ''progressives'' have demonstrated that they've no even marginal grasp upon reality, I suppose the answer must be: ''By another factor of 10.''

Rather like ''clean air'', if you think about it for a moment. Nationally, the air is some 90% cleaner than in 1971 when Nixon (that a$$) signed that act. No improvement, however, is good enough for those who insist upon the asinine Roussavian doctrine of the ''perfection of man''.

(shrug)

3 posted on 07/14/2008 9:29:00 PM PDT by SAJ
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To: Southack

Good news.


4 posted on 07/14/2008 9:42:18 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Southack

America and Iraq has won the war. AQ and the TraitorcRats have lost the war.

Pray for W and Our Victorious Troops


5 posted on 07/14/2008 9:55:27 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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To: Southack; trooprally; Duncan Hunter Ambassador; Jim Robinson; Just A Nobody; eaglesnest1; ...

I’m sure Reid, Pelosi and Murtha are ‘deeply saddened’ ...

Great observation, thanks for the ping.

Something like this ought to be made into a Resolution and put into the Congressional Record as such.

Senators from Oklahoma and Alabama come immediately to mind, as do a number of Representatives.


6 posted on 07/15/2008 12:32:13 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Southack

Great news, especially for those with loved ones in harm’s way.


7 posted on 07/15/2008 2:15:14 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Southack

Lord willing this will be the norm in the future. If it turns out there has not been a reduction in the “outside the wire”, then this is truly remarkable.


8 posted on 07/15/2008 3:28:13 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: Southack
Thank you for the ping, Southack. Thank you for pointing this out. Were we in another era, the front pages would be screaming in LARGE BOLD PRINT, glad, of this news. The news would be triumphant!

OTOH, maybe this is also another reason why The New Yorker is getting such grief over its "Obama/Mama" cover -- the timing of their cover amid such low American casualties in the mid-east... vis a vis.. sure it's quiet and steady in Iraq and because the "terrorists" are here, running for Presidential office in the U.S.

Who knows... I'm not a liberal, hence, I don't grok the groupist/cult member mind set..

9 posted on 07/15/2008 4:01:31 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Southack

Excellent analysis.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 5:04:10 AM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: SAJ

They wouldn’t even be happy if more soldiers were born in Iraq than died there.

(Yes, I know that makes absolutely no sense. We’re dealing with “progressives”)...


11 posted on 07/15/2008 9:10:55 AM PDT by null and void (All those years of people voting for the lesser of the two evils? The bill comes due this election.)
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To: null and void
Exxcellent non sequitur, in the ''progressive'' style!

;^)

12 posted on 07/15/2008 9:16:38 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: SAJ
*blush* Thank yew...
13 posted on 07/15/2008 9:18:40 AM PDT by null and void (All those years of people voting for the lesser of the two evils? The bill comes due this election.)
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To: Southack

PING for great news on the liberation of Iraq.

We need to write letters to the editor about this.

AQ in Iraq was never going to have a ‘signing ceremony on the Missouri”, they were going to be ground into dust and fade away. And it’s happened.

Obviously there is more to do, but the hard part we can now say is behind us, and the heavy lifting is now increasingly being done by Iraqis themselves.

We are in the endgame of the Iraq war, and we are winning decisively. As with the endgame of a chess game, this endgame is clearer than the middle. In the middle, the complexities are great and options are many; before the surge, we were not winning, and many factors could (and did) complicate things, from Mahdi Army to the actions of Sunni tribes, first against us, then with us; with the surge, we turned a stalemated struggle into crushing blows against the AQ terrorists; combined with the turnabout in the Sunni tribes and population, it turned the corner on violence. In the endgame, there are fewer outcomes possible. For US and Iraqi Government, the path to victory is clear enough. Continue to stabilize and build the institutions of civil order and democracy.

We are left with one question:
“What if we won a war and the press didn’t show up to report it?”


14 posted on 07/15/2008 9:22:24 AM PDT by WOSG (http://no-bama.blogspot.com/ - NObama, stop the Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: WOSG

Continue to stabilize and build the institutions of civil order and democracy


Democracy can’t co-exsist under Islam. Turkey’s Mustafa Kemal (Atatürk) its first president learned that. Led by Atatürk the country saw a steady process of secular Westernization through Atatürk’s Reforms, which included the discontinuation of religious and other titles; the closure of Islamic courts and the replacement of Islamic canon law with a secular civil code modeled after Switzerland’s and a penal code modeled after the Italian Penal Code;

Compare that with the present Iraqi constitution that states NO LAW SHALL CONTRADICT ISLAM.

We must change this or we will end up with another oil rich country that considers US an infidel country.


15 posted on 07/15/2008 10:27:06 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: WOSG; bert; Milhous; conservatism_IS_compassion; abb
We are left with one question:

“What if we won a war and the press didn’t show up to report it?”


Indeed, we'd need to become the press. And, we are.
16 posted on 07/15/2008 4:41:12 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
Michael Yon limits excerpts to 75 words so allow me to share in totality an email from him along with this link to his dispatch.

Michael Yon Dispatches The War is Over

We have won the war in Iraq. By "we" I mean the Coalition and the Iraqis. Unless there is some unexpected reversal, what lays ahead is the challenge of building a better Iraq. There is still violence. We have lost four soldiers to combat this month, but there were times when we lost that many on an average day. There still are attacks, though we have finally reached the point where all that's left are truly "dead-enders." Al Qaeda is still a problem, but their numbers are decreasing in Iraq. The Iraqi people are sick of the violence. The Iraqi Army is filled with courageous soldiers who can fight. It is possible that by the end of the year we can really say, "Mission Accomplished," except for the continued support that Iraq will need.

Personally, my optimism has never been higher for Iraq.

17 posted on 07/15/2008 4:55:51 PM PDT by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: null and void
They wouldn’t even be happy if more soldiers were born in Iraq than died there.

(Yes, I know that makes absolutely no sense. We’re dealing with “progressives”)...

Actually, it easily might be true - according to some reports, lots of Iraqi kids dream of becoming Marines or US soldiers. And then there are the coalition forces, who have the occasional dropout who ends up enlisting in the service in the US. At least there was one Canadian . . .

18 posted on 07/15/2008 5:11:51 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The conceit of journalistic objectivity is profoundly subversive of democratic principle.)
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To: SAJ

.....No improvement, however, is good enough for those who insist upon the asinine Roussavian doctrine of the ‘’perfection of man’’.......

I think of it as Christ like perfection. That is the theory behind the American legal profession.

If you fail to meet perfection, pay me money


19 posted on 07/16/2008 4:54:09 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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To: bert

Yep. A very good analogue to the whiny reporting of the war. Hadn’t thought of it — quite creative!


20 posted on 07/16/2008 7:30:33 AM PDT by SAJ
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