Blogger admits Hawaii birth certificate forgery, subverting Obama claims (Uh-oh)

Israel Insider ^ | 3 July 2008 | Reuven Koret

[null and void]

Thanks. Have you seen KJC1's posts? He says he has a Hawaii birth certificate which appears like Obama's and has that same rev number, as well.

Sure. Rub it in...

;^P

[Fred Nerks]

I’m still catching up in Australia, saw your request. Go to the reply I posted yesterday, their explanation (?) and the link for the HUGE enlargement of the CoLB is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/replies?c=3382

[null and void]

I can see the crimp damage caused by the impressed seal. I can also see a very faint bleed through of a rubber stamp right above the bottom frame near the center.

What I’m having difficulty discerning is basket weave in some of the letters in his father’s name.

The overall resolution is good enough that I should see it, but I don’t. I suspect it’s an artifact of the imaging system/software, low contrast features near high contrast edges are often suppressed to improve perceived sharpness.

[Fred Nerks]

“What I’m having difficulty discerning is basket weave in some of the letters in his father’s name.”

Is it possible the answer to your question is contained in this previous post? Images at link. See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2035307/posts?page=53

“The typeface on the Decosta image is much darker and thicker, and has less kerning (spacing between the letters), than the Obama image. Moreover, the color of the green paper comes through almost all of the letters regardless of magnification or image compression.

By comparison, you will not see the grey and white pixels found between the letters on the Obama image.

When you enlarge the letters in the Decosta image, they all tend to remain solid, especially letters like “I, L, B, E, H,” that continue to look the same no matter how large you make them. Conversely, when you enlarge the letters in the Obama image, they start to fall apart — that is, they start losing pixels. This is exactly what happens to bitmapped text created by a graphics program.”

[Spunky]

Thanks! I finally saw some fuzzy lines in a circle.

Where in Australia do you live? My sister lived in Meldale so I understand about the time.

[PhatHead]

LOL

[Fred Nerks]

"fuzzy lines in a circle..." That's all I could find, can't make a FULL circle out of it. If I was a doubting person, (LOL!) I could say someone set down a damp wine glass...or maybe it's some kind of mark on the back of the doc to show where the seal SHOULD go.

link to THE GREAT BIRTH CERTIFICATE DEBATE. CLICK for images

Until something better comes along, I'm sticking with the above analysis. Check it out. The CoLB on the fightthesmears website shows no evidence of a seal.

I'm no genius, but what follows here appears to me to be a very dubious attempt to prove there is evidence of a seal on the back of the document:

STRATA SPHERE LINK. IMAGES. CLICK.

...Doug Ross did a great job of showing the time stamp, the stamp of the state seal and the signature area impressions coming in from the back of the Kos and BHO Campaign images, further proving their authenticity - not proving a forgery:

Does that say COMING IN FROM THE BACK? Then WHY is the date stamp shown as it would be if he was looking at the BACK OF THE DOCUMENT?

[Calpernia]

That is a good point. Making typos did leave impressions.

[Spunky]

"Does that say COMING IN FROM THE BACK? Then WHY is the date stamp shown as it would be if he was looking at the BACK OF THE DOCUMENT?"

I pointed that out to you in posting #3230. :-)

[Fred Nerks]

#3230: You wrote (in part) “If the state seal and signature were coming in from the back the date would have read in the reverse direction, like the other certificate that showed the front with his name, etc; on it.

Images and link here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2040486/replies?c=3223

We keep coming back to the same thing.

[PhatHead]

Does that say COMING IN FROM THE BACK? Then WHY is the date stamp shown as it would be if he was looking at the BACK OF THE DOCUMENT?

On the chance that you are not just trying to be funny...

This area of the birth certificate image has obviously been enlarged and reversed to make the detail easier to read. Note the backwards printed text at the bottom edge...

[Fred Nerks]

No, I wasn't trying to be funny, and you don't have to get personal about it. You say:

Note the backwards printed text at the bottom edge...

If that is as you say, and I cannot see it very clearly, then that simply proves what we are looking at is the REVERSE of the document, not a graphic of the FRONT showing that the 'seal' is 'bleeding through'

Date stamp as appears on the reverse of the document, bottom letters on document REVERSED.

[Fred Nerks]

Doug Ross did a great job of showing the time stamp, the stamp of the state seal and the signature area impressions coming in from the back of the Kos and BHO Campaign images, further proving their authenticity - not proving a forgery:

STRATASPHERE LINK

[Fred Nerks]

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/2008/06/30/the_great_obama_birth_certificate_debate_who_has_the_edge.thtml

QUESTION: Are there seals hidden from view on the “Certificate of Live Birth” images posted to (a) the Daily Kos. (b) BarackObama.com (aka “Fight the Smears”) and/or (c) the two images posted on OPENDNA’s PhotoBucket account?

ANSWER: YES to (a), but a big, fat NO to (b) and (c)

[PhilDragoo]

I could say someone set down a damp wine glass...

Thus proving it to be a forgery of an actual document!

[Fred Nerks]

http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

The “Two Minute, MSPaint OBama Hawaiian Birth Certificate”
Posted by Polarik on Monday, July 07, 2008 11:30:10 PM

[PhatHead]

I’m truly sorry if I insulted you, Fred, that was certainly not my intent.

The person analyzing the birth certificate image has enhanced and reversed an area of that image in order to make it easier to read whatever detail is visible bleeding through the document.

I am afraid I must be completely misunderstanding whatever it is you are trying to say about that image.

[Political Junkie Too]

There is no way to verify the validity of the BHO document, if we can’t discern what the form is supposed to look like. In terms of actually knowing who anyone is, we’re pretty much doomed.

Hee-hee...

That's the beauty of the media megaphone. It only takes one out-of-sync example to make the sweeping allegation. We've seen it many times before -- one odd ruling and the politician is "vindicated," or "exonerated," or "defended the Constitution."

So why not say that we can't verify anybody's identity because Obama's released COLB is different from all the rest? If govt form numbers don't change when documents are different, then we're all suspect!

-PJ

[Fred Nerks]

I am afraid I must be completely misunderstanding whatever it is you are trying to say about that image.

I guessed as much...my following comments should clear that misunderstanding up. The image in question, which I have referred to in past comments as a 'snip' with the date showing as reading from left to right, is being presented as proof that the 'seal' IS BLEEDING THOUGH FROM THE REVERSE, which clearly, it it not.

Furthermore, it's a 'snip' of what? The CoLB graphic from the fightthesmears website, or a 'snip' from KOS?

[null and void]

So why not say that we can't verify anybody's identity because Obama's released COLB is different from all the rest? If govt form numbers don't change when documents are different, then we're all suspect!

Yeah. Anybody with a brain was already suspect. (That means you too, liberal lurkers).

It's just now with a possible multiplicity of suspect valid documents anyone can be detained pending verification, no?