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Pride and Prejudice: What Does "Yankee Mean to You
The Bayou....Southeast Texas From a Different Perspective ^ | 11/3/07 | Ron Francell

Posted on 11/03/2007 6:59:32 AM PDT by BnBlFlag

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Saturday, November 3, 2007 Pride & Prejudice: What does 'Yankee' mean to you?

Southerners reserve three insults for outlanders and assorted other pathetic creatures. They are:

"Bless your heart" "Y'all ain't from around here, are you?" "Yankee"

This blog is barely two weeks old, but it has already taken a few pot-shots at some sacred cows, such as "bait-and-wait" deer-hunting, litterbugs and low expectations in some local schools. The ensuing conversations have largely been delightfully rambunctious, but a few visitors have registered their disagreement by simply invoking the "Yankee" Doctrine: You ain't one of us, so shut the f*** up.

It's not always aimed at carpetbagging pantywaists from states that fought for the Union 132 years ago. Fourteen states were established after the Civil War, mostly in the West, which didn't have a dog in that fight, so there are tens of millions of Americans who never set foot on a Civil War battleground, period. And the last real Yankee has been dead for 51 years (Albert Woolson of Minnesota was a Union drummer boy who died in 1956.)

No, it seems that to a grumpy Southerner a "Yankee" is anyone who "ain't from around here." "Yankee" is never a term of endearment. That epithet is fired like a squirrel-shot at any outsider who doesn't leave his/her native sensibilities at the Mason-Dixon line ... or who doesn't agree with the insulter. ("You don't like grits? What a Yankee!")

That kind of xenophobia didn't hunt before the Civil War, it didn't wash in the civil rights era, and it's unlikely to work in the blogosphere. It might surprise those parochial Southerners who still wield the word like a revenooer's axe, but non-Southerners are rarely insulted by the term. They merely know you're trying to be insulting.

And for the record: The outlanders' habit of calling all Southerners "bubba" or "redneck" or "hillbilly" is equally xenophobic. I'm afraid the American tendency to coin a slur is infinite and knows no geographical bounds. And if you're lucky enough to be a non-Southerner living in the South, then you hear ALL of them!

So, Gator-Baiters, educate this Yankee from Wyoming who loves Texas. What exactly is a "Yankee"? Can you describe what you see in your mind when you use or hear the term? Whether you're a native Southerner or a lifelong Manhattanite, why do you think this apparently archaic term is still so widely used in the new millennium?

Posted by GATOR at 3:25 AM

Labels: epithets, insults, prejudice, Southeast Texas, Texas, Yankee

1 Gator-baiting comments: buddy said... I'm "not from around here", either, and when I arrived here nearly 30 years ago, got the 'damn yankee' comment from some of the locals. Annoying, but expected, considering some of the Gomers who live in the backwoods.

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To: x
actually a "problem" occurred with the PC, which "jumbled" the post.

PITY, that you MAY just be too DUMB to understand that rather simple FACT.

laughing AT you, DUMMY!

free dixie,sw

181 posted on 11/11/2007 1:20:05 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: x
Hmmmmmmmm.= is your comment in #178 about the UPPER limit of your, evidently, SUB-normal intelligence???

is Judy correct??? are you "mentally challenged", i.e. RETARDED???

truth is that if i didn't post to you (to make FUN of you for being a BIGOT),perhaps nobody would post to you.

btw, "x",don't you get tired of being thought to be "the village idiot" (from: rockit), a BIGOT & a third grade dropout by everyone here???

free dixie,sw

182 posted on 11/11/2007 1:27:14 PM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: BnBlFlag

“Who shall tell what is past and what survives? For there are things born but lately in the years, which belong to the eternities.” ~ Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, Brevet Major-General, U.S. Volunteers

The Storm Cometh - “We hope the infatuated rebels like the appearance of the Northern horizon. The storm of patriotism may shortly become the hurricane of vengeance, and they have only themselves to thank...Those who sow the wind must reap the whirlwind.” ~ Milwaukee [WI] Sentinel Editorial, Saturday, April 20, 1861


183 posted on 11/11/2007 1:30:04 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: stand watie
fwiw, there is a scholarly & academic peer-reviewed book on the "courts martial"...

Name one.

(CPT Wirz's family foundation & the Swiss government are funding the project.)

Absolute nonsense.

184 posted on 11/11/2007 2:29:13 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: stand watie
fwiw, when the book comes out in English, i'm sending one to JimRob as a gift.

What's the title in German?

185 posted on 11/11/2007 2:29:50 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: x

Nah, see me & Stan (The Damn Yankee), we got an understanding. I’m a meanie and he’s a moron. It seems to be working well for both of us ;’}


186 posted on 11/11/2007 2:38:00 PM PST by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: Non-Sequitur
and you are going to ADMIT that you LIED about this book (and about about a thousand other issues),when i have a long passage, with footnotes, from the book posted????

what then are you going to say, "Mr Minister of DY Propaganda"???

i suspect that everyone except the DUMB-bunnies of the coven will join me in laughing AT you.(fwiw, it's about time that you are UNMASKED & shown to be nothing more than a propagandist for the most extreme REVISIONIST wing of "unionist sentiment".)

free dixie,sw

187 posted on 11/12/2007 8:27:21 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: rockrr; All
inasmuch as you are NOT a "meanie" & i'm not a "moron", we can continue to correspond.

otoh, i question your judgment, as you are willing to post TO "x", the village idiot", as if he was competent to understand your post. FEW people on FR are willing to do so.(be sure to use short choppy sentences & simple words, when/if you do.).

i post to him ONLY to goad him to make STUPID,BIGOTED, pointLESS, ignorant, statements that make the DYs look WORSE than they truly are.

free dixie,sw

188 posted on 11/12/2007 8:32:15 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: x
You're not a loveable kook anymore, but a very disturbed creature.

Yeah, every once in a while the mask slips and you truly see the hateful thing beneath.

189 posted on 11/12/2007 9:14:54 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie
why would anyone believe ANY of your statements (absent INDEPENDENT proof)

Mostly because I don't ask anyone to believe my statements without independent proof. In fact, I encourage people to go look things up for themselves and often provide links to support my facts. Because they can actually find the independent proof that Cortez invaded Mexico in 1519 and the Pilgrims landed in Plymouth in 1620 at any source they want to go look at. Those facts are no more controversial than the fact that the Declaration of Independence was issued in 1776.

On the other hand, your claim that the Spanish were celebrating Thanksgiving outside El Paso on or before 1519 doesn't seem to be able to be independently confirmable anywhere, like so many of your "facts." Instead it's always "Someone told me that" or "It's in a book that doesn't seem to exist."

190 posted on 11/12/2007 9:23:37 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
inasmuch as you have the reputation with all here on these threads as a LIAR, BIGOT, HATER & a nitwit, i'd think you'd "keep your trap shut" about "your betters". (fyi, almost EVERYONE on FR is "your betters".)

this is especially true of a person who was "BANNED for cause" from FR forever & chose to return as a different alias, presumably to further shame himself. (WHEN are you going to admit who you "used to be" & provide PROOF of that??? NOBODY will otherwise believe you.)

your reputation is RUINED forever & to quote one nice lady of the FR Canteen, "Bubba Ho-Tep makes me ashamed to be a FReeper".

laughing AT you, BIGOT.

free dixie,sw

191 posted on 11/12/2007 9:25:20 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep; All
laughing AT you, BIGOT!

be sure to tell everyone WHAT exactly you DID to get yourself banned FOREVER form FR. (provide PROOF, as you won't be believed otherwise.)

your "word of honor" is WIDELY known on FR to be a BAD JOKE & a "contradiction in terms", as you evidently have no honor or decency. otherwise you would apologize for being YOU & leave FR forever.

free dixie,sw

192 posted on 11/12/2007 9:29:16 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
your reputation is RUINED forever & to quote one nice lady of the FR Canteen, "Bubba Ho-Tep makes me ashamed to be a FReeper".

Another figment of your imagination, or another coward? Does she know that you put flowers on the graves of war criminals and assassins?

193 posted on 11/12/2007 9:51:40 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie

Which fact is wrong: Cortez landed in 1519, or the Pilgrims landed in 1620. For your tale to be true, one of those must be wrong.


194 posted on 11/12/2007 9:53:27 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie
and you are going to ADMIT that you LIED about this book (and about about a thousand other issues),when i have a long passage, with footnotes, from the book posted????

Do it and let's find out.

195 posted on 11/12/2007 10:25:26 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: stand watie
6. was denied the solace of a priest of the Roman Catholic faith because Secretary Stanton was quoted as saying that Wirz "burns already in Hell",

Wirz had a priest with him, both in his cell in the hours before his execution and on the gallows. His name was Father F.E. Boyle . Boyle later wrote a letter to Jefferson Davis, saying "I attended the Major to the scaffold, and he died in the peace of God and praying for his enemies. I know that he was indeed innocent of all the cruel charges on which his life was sworn away, and I was edified by the Christian spirit in which he submitted to his persecutors."But, according to you, I suppose, this priest (quoted in a pro-southern website), was a damnyankee liar, right? . Seriously, just type the words "Wirz" and "Boyle" into a Google search. Boyle is hardly an unknown character in the Wirz story. You can also read about Boyle and about the hanging of Wirz (who wasn't "hauled up" either) in this 1908 book, The True Story of Andersonville Prison: A Defense of Major Henry Wirz (full text available online-start at page 218 to read about Boyle).

8. was denied a funeral (& his widow was not allowed to claim his body for a Catholic mass & burial) & (to quote a Union officer) "dumped without ceremony into an hole near the gallows". (CPT Wirz's body was later exhumed & properly interred at its present site.)

Again, bull. According to the New York Times article written the day of the execution, "Agreeably to a request from Wirz, Father Boyle received the body today, and delivered it to an undertaker, who will inter it, to await the arrival of Mrs. Wirz, who is expected soon."

196 posted on 11/12/2007 10:38:34 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: BnBlFlag

“Yankee” means “Be real quiet ‘cause all my in-laws are Yankees.”


197 posted on 11/12/2007 10:40:30 AM PST by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: stand watie

Let me issue a partial correction (which is more than you’ll ever do). According to some other sources, Wirz was buried in the Old Capital Prison grounds until 1869, when his body was relocated to Mt. Olivet.


198 posted on 11/12/2007 10:57:55 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

stand watie was wrong about something? Who’d a thunk it? </sarcasm>


199 posted on 11/12/2007 7:37:43 PM PST by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: Ditter; All

“People from Wyoming are not Yankees”.
This guy (The author) admits to bein’ a Yankee and even calls hisself one!
Here’s an example of a Good Yankee!

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The Navasota Examiner & Grimes County Review
Serving Navasota and Grimes County, Texas, since 1894
Tuesday, November 13, 2007

Confederate grave restored
By Joy Stephenson, Special to the Examiner

Several years ago, Grimes County Sons of Confederate Veterans helped to obtain and set a new stone for the grave of a Confederate soldier that was discovered in White Hall by former land owner Betty Greenhouse.

The story begins when Betty Greenhouse of Shepherd, Texas bought a tract of land in Grimes County, Texas. Others may have known of the existence of the burying place but did not recognize its importance.

Greenhouse confirmed that the tombstone information was correct; that the young man was indeed a soldier during the War between the States. His name is William Nelson Punchard. He was a private in Waller’s Battalion, Company C., Texas Cavalry.

Military records of the Confederacy say that he was 21 years old when he died in Plantersville, Texas, not of the wounds of battle but of pneumonia following his participation in a skirmish in Louisiana.

There are many Confederate soldiers buried in the county’s cemeteries but it was the custom of the time to bury family in a private cemetery on family land. Greenhouse cleared the gravesite of brush, restored the tombstone, and honored the grave as if the soldier was her own relative.

After a few years, Betty sold the land, but was careful about whom she sold the place to. Elaine Stuart was the purchaser and she and her son, Jeff Stuart, remain true to their word, tending the grave. The stone which heads the grave tells us William was born on January 1, 1843 in Amite County, Mississippi.

He was the son of Samuel Worcester of Salem, Massachusetts and Mary Cone Munger Punchard of Francistown, New Hampshire. The young soldier died on February 5, 1864 in Plantersville. William’s father Samuel, who died in 1883, seems to have been something of an entrepreneur. Samuel came from New England to Mississippi, where his uncle, a doctor from Salem, owned a plantation. The family soon migrated to Texas.

At various times, Samuel’s family owned land and lived in Haskell, Austin, Washington, Fayette and Montgomery counties. The family stopped moving in 1856 when they settled in what was then Montgomery County, later becoming Grimes County. William, his brothers Watt and Jim were taught at home by their mother who was a teacher. His sisters, Molly, Eudora and Sophie attended Plantersville’s Markey Boarding School.

When the Civil War began, William, 18, was an early volunteer. He traveled to Waller (not a twenty minute trip on horseback in 1862) and joined Waller’s Cavalry Regiment. He brought with him a horse valued at $250 and $35 worth of equipment, presumably a gun. It is said that he took part in the Battle of St. Charles Courthouse and another in Boutte Station, both in Louisiana.

His horse became a casualty of war during the Battle of Bonne Carre in Louisiana. Sometime during his service, William contracted pneumonia, possibly in Louisiana where he served. He became so ill that he was discharged from the Army of the Confederacy and sent home to his Plantersville family. “Wonder Drugs” had not yet been discovered and he died on February 5, 1864.

History calls the burial place “The Punchard Plantation” while others call the place “The Smith Farm”. William’s brother Watt volunteered to take his brother’s place, but contracted dysentery and was discharged. He discovered that the Confederacy needed other help and volunteered to kill wild hogs, render lard, and grind corn for the duration of the war. It is Watt’s 2-month-old infant son, Franklin Worcester Punchard, who died on August 11, 1871, who is buried in the grave with his Uncle William.

It was the custom in those days to bury an infant with or on top of a loving relative. A story is told about William Punchard’s gravestone that could come straight from “The Twilight Zone”. The stone was purchased in Salado, moved to the grave area by slaves with a wagon drawn by oxen.

En route to Plantersville, lightning struck the stone and broke it. The tomb stone was repaired, and was in the process of being set, when lightning struck it again. It was repaired a second time. However, on the day when the stone was finally being set at the gravesite, lightning struck it for the third time. The slaves refused to help with its repair again.

The top of the stone, sheared off by lightning, has been found buried in the dirt. It has not been reattached to the monument. Betty and Elaine are working on plans for repairs, as the two women remain friends though Betty now lives in Shepherd, Texas And so the story ends.

The Punchards, a bold New England family, Yankees if ever there were any, traveled the length of the country, north to south. Then the family sent their young son to fight in a war between the north and the south.

Twenty-first century women found and preserved a 100-year-old grave after lightning struck the tombstone three times. Greenhouse found the grave site approximately 15 years ago and immediately “adopted” the young man buried there more than one hundred years ago. He became “our soldier” and his grave has been cared for since. Confederate flags and bright flowers identify the location of the tombstone on which the name, rank and regiment of the late 21-year-old private is now clearly marked. The story seems to tell us that truth is stranger than fiction. There are still people who care about others, even in death.

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200 posted on 11/13/2007 2:12:27 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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