Posted on 09/07/2006 6:20:09 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
The uproar in the Leftist Blogosphere to the upcoming ABC TV movie, The Path To 9/11, has reached a fevered pitch. Remember, these are the same folks who buy into what they term "MIHOP" (Bush Made It Happen On Purpose). So it is expected that anybody so delusional would be sent into a rage when a movie exposes what actually led to 9/11. Namely the Clinton Administration's insistence on the Jamie Gorelick infamous Wall of Separation keeping investigatory agencies such as the FBI and CIA from sharing informaration about the terrorists with each other. In addition, this movie highlights the fact that the Clinton administration could have killed or captured Osama Bin Laden but refused to go through with it. And what is the source for that latter bit of information? Why Bill Clinton himself who admitted this in a post-presidential speech. Another phony objection the Loony Left has to this movie is that portions of it are dramatized. What a shock! A movie that dramatizes events! Guess what? ALL movies that purport to show factual events are dramatized for the reasons of time constraints (such as using composite characters) or to keep the story flowing. I recently read the book Cinderella Man and noticed that there were numerous dramatizations in the movie (which I've seen on cable at least 20 times). For example, they show boxer Jim Braddock as having been married to his wife, Mae, back when he was successful in the 1920s. In actual fact they didn't get married until Braddock was in tough times but the filmakers wanted to contrast the differences in their life styles before and after the stock market crash. However, the dramatization of events did not change the essential truth of that movie whose theme was the comeback of a boxer from hard times. So now the leftists are nitpicking on this and other silly things in order to get this ABC TV movie pulled from the air. There are many such outraged discussions in the Leftist Blogosphere but in this edition of the DUmmie FUnnies, we shall focus on this Daily Kos KOmmie THREAD titled, "ABC now to run disclaimers - Keep up the pressure!" So let us now watch the KOmmies emit a primal scream over this movie in Bolshevik Red while the commentary of your humble correspondent, already reserving a spot on his couch for Sunday and Monday nights, is in the [brackets]:
ABC now to run disclaimers - Keep up the pressure!
[WARNING: The Truth of this movie will make Leftists go berserk.]
We need to keep up the pressure. The ABC Blog has been put back up (although they are publishing only a fraction of the comments). Berger, Albright and others are starting to jump in. Now this response (recently released talking points I'm sure)I just received from an ABC affiliate stating they will be running disclaimers; shows that the pressure is working! Let's keep it up and see if we can't STOP this propaganda from airing. I will kill this diary if this information has been previously posted.
[WARNING: Frantic leftist nutcases will be futilely trying to remove this movie from the air.]
Throughout the movie, there will be a disclaimer stating that, among other things, the movie is not a documentary and that it does contain fictionalized scenes.
[Just like EVERY movie based on truth does. Cinderella Man? It had fictionalized scenes for DRAMATIC purposes and to keep the movie from running 22 hours long.]
Dramatization, Schramatization my ass. You just don't do that about this very partisan and divisive topic. I told ABC that this was tantamount to giving a free campaign commercial to Bush and Republicans, and that that was not fair and we should have equal time to present our side.
[Tell that to MSNBC which yesterday ran free campaign commercials all day for the Democrats telling viewers how they were going to win in November because of how horrible the Republicans are.]
Conyers et al just wrote a letter
[The same Conyers who is just aching to start impeachment hearings?]
Schmucks. This is turning into a disaster for them. Remember the 60 Minutes "scandal" (which was based on facts which have never refuted, and which occurred only because one source had some possibly forged papers)- we need people to be fired because of this, and we need a sea change in attitude at ABC.
[LOL! "Possibly" forged papers?]
Don't feel bad; they tried to pull a fast one and we are not going to let them get away with it. I hope President Clinton gets his attorneys involved.
[Ironically, that was the Clinton administration's fault in handling terrorism. They wanted to get the attorneys involved. Something this movie will portray despite your pathetic screeching.]
Doing a fictional account of the Kennedy assassination 30 yrs after the fact is one thing. Doing a fictional account of something that happened FIVE YEARS ago, when all the main players are still alive and screaming, is quite another.
[How about the Michael Moore "documentary" portrayal showing a bunch of happy kids pleased to be living under the Saddam Hussein regime where they could merrily fly their kites?]
Everything the administration has ever said about September 11 has been fiction.
[Including the fact that it was masterminded by Osama Bin Laden?]
It disingenuously and purposfully skirts FCC electioneering laws by providing free ad time to a single party, within 60 days of a scheduled election, without the opportunity for a rebuttal containing actual facts of the matter.
[You mean like the way the Michael Moore "documentary" ran shortly before the 2004 election on the tube?]
He ought to let ABC know that the Democratic Congress will take a VERY close look at their license, come renewal time.
[A threat made out in the open.]
The movie "Apollo 13" used time compression, for example, in compressing something like a dozen rocket motor burns done for course correction into one. The movie also created a composite character, the mission director whose best line was, "Failure is not an option." I believe three or so real people were rolled into that one composite character. But neither of those things done in the movie leaves the viewer with important misconceptions even about NASA's competence. It seems "The Path to 9/11" could leave many viewers with misconceptions important enough to affect how they VOTE, with an election less than two months away.
[Wrong! The Path to 9/11 leaves viewers with the correct impression that the Jamie Gorelick Wall of Separation kept agencies from sharing vital information about the terrorists and that the Clinton Administration, as admitted by Clinton himself, prevented the capture or deat of Osama Bin Ladin.]
This disclaimer is horseshit the only good thing is that it shows ABC is beginning to crack, just a bit. We need to keep hammering them. And the people involved -- Clinton, Albright, Berger, etc, who are slandered on the screen -- need to sue their f*cking asses off.
[Can we sue Sandy Bergler for stuffing National Archives papers into his socks?]
...as AmericaBlog points out, ABC received a letter from four future committee heads with subpoena power. The implicit threat is probably not lost on the ABC executives.
[This is what is known as BLACKMAIL.]
although I've written about 4 emails to various people, I haven't yet written my local ABC affiliate, but I am now. For those of you that haven't yet written your local channel - time to do so! It's WEDNESDAY people!
[It's now THURSDAY my desperate little KOmmie.]
What about the Actors. Have the actors for the film been contacted for their response? How do they feel knowing now that they have been used to further Republican propaganda? Would they be willing to appear in a commercial for the Republican National Committee? If not, then why did they agree to appear in this film? If they were tricked into it, why are they not now speaking out?
[Maybe you should threaten to haul the actors before a Congressional committee IF the Democrats win in November.]
The woman who was Ray Ramano's TV wife is in the movie....name escapes me, but she does the Albertson's commercials.... She's a proud, card-carrying, single issue (abortion) Republican. She's hard core. She knew what she was getting into. I think Harvey Keitel is also Republican. and I can't remember who else is in the movie.
[I can just picture these actors being questioned before a Democrat Congressional committee: "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Republican Party?]
Change the names of the characters--President Will Plimpton, Secretary Adelaide Fullbright, etc.
[Sandy Burglar for Sandy Berger would be the perfect name change.]
Got an email from the Democratic PArty a couple of hours ago. They are petitioning Disney/ABC.
[Yes, they are now joining the Army of Crybabies.]
I have to admit, if this is true, then he has a point. I hate lies and distortions from ANY side, and since the Truth usually points in our direction, there is no need for anything else but. Having said that, I don't know about this TV show. I dont how truthful it is, I dont know the ideological bent of the writers. I suspect, however, that it is much closer to the truth, than most of the Bush bashing stuff ever was.
If you follow the Newsmax link on this thread: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1114669/posts you can download an mp3 file (must click on the Newsmax link first for it to work). It seems to be a working link although I don't have speakers on this computer.
That audio file has to do with Clinton passing up a chance to get bin Laden from Sudan in 1996.
The 911 Commission report has some information about passing up chances to get bin Laden in Afghanistan. Click here http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AMH/XXI/GWOT/911-Report/911-Report-4.html and scroll down to "The Desert Camp, February 1999" and also "Kandahar, May 1999".
It did happen. the Clintonoids are using the 'dramatization' as an excuse to bash it as having 'never happened'.
What they can't stand is docudramas like this do affect people, who typically dont watch history or political shows. The RATS know this will hurt them, and their chances to take back Congress. BTW, I think the MSM is in classic overreaching with their 'GOP doomed, Dems are going to take back Congress' mantra. It will be close, but the GOP has time to pull out a defensive win, keeping both the House and Congress. That, could likely be the big story election night. 'How Democrats blew their chance' and 'Bush wins big'. the MSM is already spinngin a GOP hold on Congress as a win for Bush, and a Dem retaking of congress as a direct repudiation of Bush's policies.
I didn't realize Clinton himself told of this story though in a post Presidential speech. Anyone know the date or have a link to Clinton's speech? There is so much being written about this subject now it would be very difficult to find it in a google search.
Actually, the reason he gives for not capturing Bin Laden is they didin't have a reason to hold him.
If anyone has it, it would be MiaT.
Anyone wishing to see live news footage from 9/11/01, Fox News is streaming the video from that day. Right now it's up to about 8:30 pm EDT. They may restart the stream at some point.
Oh my, the DUmmies are confused yet again (must be all the meds). They must actually be referring to the Swift Boat Veterans, whose facts were never refuted!
There were a few errors. In a couple scenes, Bill Clinton's fly was actually zipped up.
They may try to fix that with computer graphics.
Hillary's ankles were slimmed using an expensive Silicon GRaphics, Cray and Nasa super computer using the cold of space to keep the systems from overheating.
Hey to all you DUmmies who lurk on these threads: HA HA HA HA you are the biggest bunch of morons and idiots.....
Scholastic?!? I'll have to keep an eye out for that letter. What does he or she think a kid's book company is going to do?
Just a note that I have seen this DUFU, but all the good lines are already taken. :(
Insert benburch joke here.
Except the parts that make Bush look bad.
I don't know the exact date although, I do believe it was in a post this morning in FR. It was the thread about Clinton throwing a fit. I know it took place in Long Island. Maybe you could google Clinton and Long Island.
See post #63 for a link to an audio clip for that Long Island speech. The quote had to do with getting bin Laden from Sudan in 1996.
The latter reason for not nailing bin Laden was captured on tape by Carl Limbacher. (see below) I, too, recall the 'prince' excuse.... (And the 'collateral damage' excuse, notwithstanding the plain fact that 'collateral damage' didn't stop the clintons from bombing from 3 miles up when it served their purposes... and their poll numbers.) THE (oops!) INADVERTENT ADMISSIONS OF BILL + HILLARY CLINTON part one WHY THE CLINTONS FAILED "TO CAPTURE OR KILL THE TALLEST MAN IN AFGHANISTAN" (DID THEY REALLY WANT TO TAKE HIM OUT ANYWAY?) < UNITED 93:THE CLINTON-9/11 NEXUS "We have to do it now. We know what happens if we just sit here and do nothing...." CLINTON: 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' (+ Albright-Fulbright-Nobel TERRORISM revelations) WHY DID BILL CLINTON IGNORE TERRORISM? Was it simply the constraints of his liberal mindset, or was it something even more threatening to our national security? IT TAKES A CLINTON TO RAZE A COUNTRY BIN LADEN FINGERS CLINTON FOR TERROR SUCCESS (SEE FOOTAGE) THE THREAT OF TERRORISM IS AS CLOSE AS A CLINTON IS TO THE OVAL OFFICE UNITED 93:THE CLINTON-9/11 NEXUS "We have to do it now. We know what happens if we just sit here and do nothing...." ALBRIGHT INDICTS CLINTON FOR TERRORISM FAILURE (and doesn't even know it) MISSING CLINTON AUDIO! 'Can we kill 'em tomorrow?' (+Albright-Fulbright-Nobel TERRORISM revelations) WHY THE CLINTONS FAILED "TO CAPTURE OR KILL THE TALLEST MAN IN AFGHANISTAN" (DID THEY REALLY WANT TO TAKE HIM OUT ANYWAY?) 'MAKE IT A RULE' -- PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR OSAMA WITH CLINTON and CO. (HEAR HILLARY + BILL MAKE THEIR PITCH) THE (oops!) INADVERTENT (TERRORISM) ADMISSIONS OF BILL + HILLARY CLINTON (HEAR HILLARY IN SF) HILLARY GOES NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION IN THE AGE OF CLINTON THE FAILED, DYSFUNCTIONAL CLINTON PRESIDENCY (DECONSTRUCTING CLINTON'S HOFSTRA SPEECH) -- part1: clinton's "Brinkley" Lie AFTERWORD: ON CLINTON SMALLNESS (BRINKLEY MISSES THE POINT) PRESIDENTIAL FAILURE, 9/11 + KATRINA Carpe Mañana: The (bill + hillary) clinton Terrorism Policy ('Can we kill 'em tomorrow?') CHENEY: CALL THEM REPREHENSIBLE THE DEMOCRATS ARE GONNA GET US KILLED (kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants) SERlES5 sandy berger haberdashery feint (the specs, not the pants or the socks) CLINTON TREASON + THE GORELICK WALL Reverse Gorelick THE LEFT'S RECKLESS TET-OFFENSIVE-GAMBIT REPLAY: the left's jihad against America is killing our troops, aiding + abetting the terrorists and imperiling all Americans CLINTON RAPES, REVISIONISM, USEFUL IDIOTS AND ENTROPY (an update) pro-islamofascist-terrorist radical chic WHY THE LEFT IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA The Left's Fatally Flawed "Animal Farm" Mentality (Why America Must NEVER AGAIN Elect a Democrat President) WAR AND TREASON AND THE NEW YORK TIMES (Please see post 65) IN A 'PINCH': RETHINKING THE FIRST AMENDMENT (Which came first, the 'journalist' or the traitor?) PINCH SULZBERGER, PEARL HARBOR + TREASON WHY WE MUST PROSECUTE THE NEW YORK TIMES WHY BIN LADEN WANTS HOME DELIVERY OF THE NEW YORK TIMES MORE
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More and more I'm finding these people less and less amusing and more and more disturbing.
And they call US Nazis.
sheesh.
"Conyers et al just wrote a letter "
Well, then ... that's good enough for ME ... sure to work with ABC, too !!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=106x28830
They warn to keep under the radar of lurking freepers; hey DUmmies? too late, I've lurked and spilled the beans.
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