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Need cold medicine? Keep your ID handy [will have to have ID logged to buy cold medication]
Pajamas Media ^ | Jun 2, 2006

Posted on 06/02/2006 1:15:20 PM PDT by John Jorsett

Get ready to give up a little bit of your privacy in exchange for certain allergy or cold medicines.

Starting in late September, just in time for cold season, consumers will be required to fork over photo IDs and list their home addresses in logbooks before buying Sudafed, Contac or other remedies containing the nasal-decongestant pseudoephedrine or similar substances.

Some retailers already are asking for the information, which law-enforcement officials hope will help them fight the illegal production of methamphetamine, a highly addictive drug that can be made, in part, by "cooking" pseudoephedrine.

Consumers in Florida and many other states have grown used to sales restrictions on pseudoephedrine-containing drugs -- including their placement behind pharmacy counters instead of on store shelves.

But the latest rules, which also call for limits on purchases of up to 120 pills a day, are part of a federal effort to combat meth addiction.

Methamphetamine abuse is an increasing problem in the United States, with a recent report by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration saying the number of users admitted to substance-abuse clinics more than quadrupled from 1993 to 2003. The problem is particularly acute in rural America, though the Orlando area also has seen a rise in meth labs.

For instance, last year the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration seized 115 meth labs in Central Florida. In 2000, it seized two.

Tracking sales is critical to stopping the spread of meth labs in Central Florida, said Stephen Collins, who heads the Orlando office of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

Collins said it was "very common" for meth makers to comb the region's stores for cold medicine needed to make the illicit drug.

"We had individuals that would canvass up and down Central Florida and the East Coast and hit numerous stores, buying as much as they could get their hands on," he said. "By limiting this, we hope to see the decrease in the number of labs."

The new regulations, passed in March as part of the USA Patriot Act, are being phased in over the next several months. They are stricter than Florida law and will override it, the Florida Retail Federation said.

Dawn Townsend, a pharmacist at Maitland Rexall Drug Store, said she just recently learned about the logbook rule and is in the process of teaching her staff what to do.

"I don't see it as a hassle," she added.

Industry groups say they expect sales of medicines that contain pseudoephedrine to decline as a result of the law. Already, drug makers are selling reformulated cold medicines that don't need to be placed behind the counter, such as Sudafed PE.

"Most big retailers saw this coming," Walgreen Co. (NYSE:WAG) spokeswoman Carol Hively said.

The rise of meth labs prompted several states, including Florida last summer, to pass laws restricting sales of pseudoephedrine-containing medicine. But while consumers may not mind limits on how much cold medicine they can purchase at one time, they may bristle at giving up personal information to buy it.

"The question here is, is it the job of pharmacies and pharmacists to be a policeman on these products [and] what are the privacy protections for people who legitimately buy these products and have their name recorded somewhere?" said Arthur Levin, director of the New York-based Center for Medical Consumers, a nonprofit advocacy group.

Drugstores say measures are in place to prohibit the disclosure of consumers' private information, which retailers must keep for up to two years after a sale. The federal law, for instance, prohibits retailers from disclosing private information except when a legal request is made by local, state or federal authorities.

"We don't have any intention to use it in any way except to make it available to the authorities," Walgreen's Hively said.

And helping those authorities fight illegal meth production is why Lydia McNeil, 60, of Orlando is willing to give up personal information to buy the Sudafed she uses to treat her colds.

"I wouldn't mind signing anything to keep it out of the hands of the people who are using it for the wrong reason," she said, after shopping at a Walgreens on Michigan Avenue in Orlando.

Though the federal law does not provide for a clearinghouse, so purchases could be tracked from store to store, some retailers are working on that approach themselves within their chains. Walgreens and CVS (NYSE:CVS) -- two of the nation's biggest drugstore chains -- said they are developing systems to monitor sales. Wal-Mart (NYSE:WMT) says it already uses an electronic logbook that can track purchases at individual outlets but not from store to store.

Marianne Myers, 45, who was shopping at an Albertsons (NYSE:ABS) on South Orange Avenue in Orlando, said she understood the motive behind the new measures but lamented the implications.

"It's probably a hassle for us," the Orlando resident said. "It's sad that things have to be like that."


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1 posted on 06/02/2006 1:15:22 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

No problem.

I have to show it to use my Visa card when I buy the stuff anyway.


2 posted on 06/02/2006 1:17:20 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Still MAD as HELL!!!)
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To: John Jorsett
The War on Some Drugs is a far bigger threat to freedom than a few little NSA phone logs.
3 posted on 06/02/2006 1:17:27 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: John Jorsett

I use 2-4 pseudofeds a day plus some bendryl - my only concern is the price going up from the additional regulation and labor required by the pharmacy.


4 posted on 06/02/2006 1:18:59 PM PDT by gondramB (We may have done a lill' bit of fightin amongst ourselves but you outside people best leave us alone)
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To: John Jorsett
But the latest rules, which also call for limits on purchases of up to 120 pills a day, are part of a federal effort to combat meth addiction.

The feds are busy mandating this, despite this story:

Mexican Meth Floods U.S. Shutdown Of U.S. Labs Fails To Stop Spread Of Deadly Drug

This deadly drug is now a growth industry for Mexico's deadly drug cartels. They're replacing small U.S. kitchen labs with Mexican super labs. The cartels are smuggling ephedrine from China, India and Europe and cooking up huge quantities of cheap meth — including an especially potent variety, Mexican Ice. Then the cartels smuggle it north to U.S. users.

"They're making quite a lot of money off of meth," Gonzalez said. "They are pretty much using the same routes that they've used in the past with cocaine and with marijuana."

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Memo to the feds - spend less time hassingly Americans, and more time CONTROLLING OUR BORDERS!

5 posted on 06/02/2006 1:19:02 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Paloma_55

...and they record your home address--you have to do that, too, when you use your Visa?


6 posted on 06/02/2006 1:19:10 PM PDT by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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To: John Jorsett

I find it unfortunate that the government can't come up with more effective ways to deal with the problem than to come up with some hare-brained idea like this. Fortunately, I never buy cold medications (I'm allergic to antihistamines and old Gramma's remedies work just as well) but I am still opposed to this idea. Privacy used to be valued in this country.


7 posted on 06/02/2006 1:20:23 PM PDT by virginiaspook
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To: John Jorsett
And meanwhile,tons and tons of this stuff is coming in via Mexico.The traffickers are,no doubt,showing their IDs to the DEA agents that they encounter at the border.
8 posted on 06/02/2006 1:20:51 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: John Jorsett

Is this nationwide, or just in Florida?


9 posted on 06/02/2006 1:20:57 PM PDT by redhead (The REAL redhead -- not the lefty imitation.)
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To: ECM

Plus, you have to tell them if you belly button is an "Inny" or an "Outy".


10 posted on 06/02/2006 1:21:55 PM PDT by MarkeyD (Make Love, Not Cartoons. I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: John Jorsett

I was at Walmart and two men went in separate lines with a case of Equate brand Sudafed each. They had grabbed the cases before the stock boy could break the case and put the rest behind a counter.

I protested and the clerk called a manager who told them they could only buy one box at a time. They declined. I followed them out and calling police with their descriptions and car license number. I was told by the operator that they didn't have time to follow up on things like this.

They sure have time to check for seatbelts every morning.


11 posted on 06/02/2006 1:21:57 PM PDT by Roux
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I can barely get the good Sudafed anymore and why???

Methamphetamine's Clutch Leaves More Gays Addicted, Infected

Gay men gain "confidence," lose control with meth use

GLMA grant to study gay men and meth

 

12 posted on 06/02/2006 1:22:40 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' IDs!...............

13 posted on 06/02/2006 1:22:52 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: John Jorsett
On a related note, a couple of years ago my dental hygienist convinced me to start using PLAX on a daily basis because my teeth are a tartar magnet. I started brushing with two generic Walmart equivalents, one a PLAX clone and one a Listerine anti-plaque mouthwash clone.

Now when i go to the hygienist she literally has nothing to do because my teeth are so clean.

Even better, I used to get two or three sinus infections a year, but I have not been sick once since I started using the anti-plaque stuff.

14 posted on 06/02/2006 1:23:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: John Jorsett

We've had this here for a year or so. Fortunately, I don't need to buy the stuff very often. But I ran into something odd one day when I was at the self-service checkout at a store and rang up some cold medicine not preferred by junkies. The computer said, "Approval needed" and I finally got a guy to do so and he asked me, "What do you have, alcohol or tobacco?" "Neither," I said. "Just plain old cold medicine."


15 posted on 06/02/2006 1:25:06 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The moving finger writes and, having writ, moves on......)
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To: dirtboy

>>This deadly drug is now a growth industry for Mexico's deadly drug cartels. They're replacing small U.S. kitchen labs with Mexican super labs. The cartels are smuggling ephedrine from China, India and Europe and cooking up huge quantities of cheap meth — including an especially potent variety, Mexican Ice. Then the cartels smuggle it north to U.S. users.<<

Just doing the jobs Amererican red necks can't do.


16 posted on 06/02/2006 1:28:52 PM PDT by gondramB (We may have done a lill' bit of fightin amongst ourselves but you outside people best leave us alone)
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To: John Jorsett

hmmmmmm! How will this affect the illegal population? Was Mexico consulted before this law was put into effect?


17 posted on 06/02/2006 1:29:09 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: John Jorsett

"I don't see it as a hassle," she added.

It's already a hassle without the logbook step. Now I have to stand in the pharmacy line for 10 minutes instead of getting it right off the shelf. Also, the store is now almost always out of my brand when I need it the most, leading to an hour of driving and searching other stores, who have let their stock run out too! Thank you so much, addicts and government, for making allergy season miserable.


18 posted on 06/02/2006 1:29:43 PM PDT by PCBMan (I've got values but I don't know how or why)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The War on Some Drugs is a far bigger threat to freedom than a few little NSA phone logs.

Amen!

Walgreen's has had sinus meds behind the pharmacy counter for a while. To purchase 'Wal-Phed', I have to give them my driver's license and then SIGN for the stuff. I told them last time that drug dealers don't go through this. They just steal the truck.
19 posted on 06/02/2006 1:30:21 PM PDT by Brizick (Repeal the 17th Amendment)
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To: redhead

Many states are into this silliness.


20 posted on 06/02/2006 1:30:44 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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