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Ann Coulter weighs in on Darwinism
uncommondescent.com ^ | William Dembski

Posted on 04/27/2006 8:01:57 AM PDT by Tribune7

I’m happy to report that I was in constant correspondence with Ann regarding her chapters on Darwinism — indeed, I take all responsibility for any errors in those chapters. :-)

(Excerpt) Read more at uncommondescent.com ...


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KEYWORDS: anncoulter; bewarefrevolutionist; coulter; crevolist; darwinism; evolution; godless
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To: svcw
NO, MY REAL SURPRISE IS THOSE WHO BELIVE THAT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE A RELIOUGS CONCERVATIVE THAT ONE IS “SCIENCE-ILLITERATE”

That's really not true. There are only a relatively few conservatives who are trying hard to perpetuate the myth that conservatism is synonymous with willful ignorance of basic biology. Apparently Coulter is foolishly believing there are enough of them to keep her book sales up but, I believe she's just jumped off the cliff of credibility.

861 posted on 04/28/2006 11:54:27 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Ichneumon
Conservative Texan Mom: Likewise, some evos equate the religious to fanatics, and believe that it will lead to ignorance and another dark age.[Post #99]

Ichneumon: No, this is quite incorrect. I don't know of a single Freeper who matches your description, and you do this debate a large disservice with such misrepresentations.[Post #118]

RightWingProfessor: Speaking only for myself, my agenda is protecting science, and biological science in particular, a pursuit on which I've spent most of my working life, from political attacks by religious fundamentalists, who seem to think we're still in the Middle Ages and that the Enlightenment never happened. [from post#45].

863 posted on 04/29/2006 3:17:49 AM PDT by backslacker (Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding Job 38)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Aren't you the asshole who wrote a nice as pie freepmail to me, offering to start a dialog outside the evil world of flame wars, and when I responded in good faith, and at some length, dropped the whole thing?

What is it with you people that you are so personally dishonest that you cannot have a conversation with a normal person?


864 posted on 04/29/2006 4:32:14 AM PDT by js1138 (somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was, wasn't evolution)
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To: Sam Hill

So basically you are saying that Hitler put on the false face of a believer, promoted Christianity as the foundation of his political actions, and millions of people accepted his rationale.

So you, on the word of a monster criminal, have concluded that Hitler was a hypocrite. What were his millions of followers? What made them so eager to fall in line?


865 posted on 04/29/2006 4:45:54 AM PDT by js1138 (somewhere, some time ago, something happened, but whatever it was, wasn't evolution)
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To: Sam Hill

Despite your tagline, I smell a troll.

Nope. I asked a perfectly legitimate question. Were the Nazis atheists? If not, what were they? I think they were all (maybe with a few exceptions) raised as Christians, attended Christian services/ceremonies/rituals, invoked the Christian God and Christian scripture in their everyday and public speech, etc. There is no question Germany before Hitler took power was a solidly Christian country.

And yes, Hitler was an adamant believer in evolution. Much of his theories is based on Darwinism as he understood it.)

Now I not only smell a troll, I hear a troll. I didn't ask that and you are repeating a frequently repeated error and anti-evolution creationist myth that has just as frequently been rebutted and shown to be false. And I generally speaking, don't respond to creationist trolls.

866 posted on 04/29/2006 5:29:24 AM PDT by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads.)
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To: Sam Hill
"Perhaps you don't know who David Irving is."

I certainly do. And your post was still one of the most ironic posts I have ever read. It's funny as hell reading someone threaten to go to the mods crying abuse while calling someone an A-h%%e. The closest I have seen to that is another poster I have seen who, while calling someone an idiot, was adamant that he was always polite.


You anti-evo's are SO amusing. :)
867 posted on 04/29/2006 5:43:25 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Adam was not a living being prior to the sixth day and animals also had the breath of life.


868 posted on 04/29/2006 6:35:20 AM PDT by pby
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To: Mamzelle; jennyp
If Coyoteman keeps posting the same photo six times a day for five years, it will inevitably lead to Evo-Morph and the photo will change due to random chance.

So you don't know the difference between chimpanzee and humans?

869 posted on 04/29/2006 7:08:45 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A dying theory since 1859.)
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To: Ichneumon
Give us an actual example, with citation of a statement of specific odds provided in evolutionary biology without support for the odds given. Except that most 'odds' are unknown and lots of TIME is needed.

You stop reading WAY too soon!

For example; what are the ODDS that head A will turn into head B?



Gosh!

NONE are given!

870 posted on 04/29/2006 7:14:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Ichneumon
It happened according to various physical processes which can hardly be described as "by chance". Things don't coalesce gravitationally "by chance", for example.

Now, where was that evidence of God you promised us?

 

 

HMmmm......

871 posted on 04/29/2006 7:16:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: taxesareforever
 
If they lay claim to evolution then they most certainly can claim any other portions of the Bible are false. They are playing with fire.
 
It sure appears that way!!!!

Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

"By further reflecting that the clearest evidence would be requisite to make any sane man believe in the miracles by which Christianity is supported,—and that the more we know of the fixed laws of nature the more incredible do miracles become,—that the men at that time were ignorant and credulous to a degree almost incomprehensible by us,—that the Gospels cannot be proven to have been written simultaneously with the events,—that they differ in many important details, far too important, as it seemed to me to be admitted as the usual inaccuracies of eye witnesses;—by such reflections as these, which I give not as having the least novelty or value, but as they influenced me, I gradually came to disbelieve in Christianity as a divine revelation. The fact that many fake religions have spread over large portions of the earth like wildfire had some weight with me. But I was very unwilling to give up my belief; I feel sure of this, for I can remember often and often inventing day-dreams of old letters between distinguished Romans, and manuscripts being discovered at Pompeii or elsewhere, which confirmed in the most striking manner all that was written in the Gospels. But I found it more and more difficult, with free scope given to my imagination, to invent evidence which would suffice to convince me. Thus disbelief crept over me at a very slow rate, but was at last complete. The rate was so slow that I felt no distress, and have never since doubted even for a single second that my conclusion was correct."

( Charles Darwin in his Autobiography of Charles Darwin, Dover Publications, 1992, p. 62. )


Charles Darwin (1809-1882)

"I think that generally (& more & more as I grow older), but not always, that an agnostic would be the most correct description of my state of mind."

( Quoted from Adrian Desmond and James Moore, Darwin: The Life of a Tormented Evolutionist, New York: W. W. Norton & Company, 1991, p. 636. )


872 posted on 04/29/2006 7:18:10 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: HappyFeet

You should read it. It's very educational and could rescue you from your approval of the silly aphorism that evolution is "nothing but a gap."


873 posted on 04/29/2006 7:19:51 AM PDT by ahayes (Yes, I have a devious plot. No, you may not know what it is.)
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To: backslacker; Ichneumon; Right Wing Professor; Conservative Texan Mom
Conservative Texan Mom: Likewise, some evos equate the religious to fanatics, and believe that it will lead to ignorance and another dark age.[Post #99]

RightWingProfessor: Speaking only for myself, my agenda is protecting science, and biological science in particular, a pursuit on which I've spent most of my working life, from political attacks by religious fundamentalists, who seem to think we're still in the Middle Ages and that the Enlightenment never happened. [from post#45].

874 posted on 04/29/2006 7:23:16 AM PDT by BMCDA (If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it,we would be so simple that we couldn't)
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To: driftdiver
so you are saying the physical movement of indivuals is analogous with divergent evolution?

And who says creatoids can't learn something ...

875 posted on 04/29/2006 7:25:43 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A dying theory since 1859.)
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To: Ichneumon; RunningWolf; wallcrawlr; AndrewC; metmom; Conservative Texan Mom

Odds..... and spin...

 

However, an analysis by Ekland suggests that in the sequence space of 220 nucleotide long RNA sequences, a staggering 2.5 x 10^112 sequences are efficent ligases [12]. Not bad for a compound previously thought to be only structural. Going back to our primitive ocean of 1 x 10^24 litres and assuming a nucleotide concentration of 1 x 10^-7 M [23], then there are roughly 1 x 10^49 potential nucleotide chains, so that a fair number of efficent RNA ligases (about 1 x 10^34) could be produced in a year, let alone a million years. The potential number of RNA polymerases is high also; about 1 in every 10^20 sequences is an RNA polymerase [12]. Similar considerations apply for ribosomal acyl transferases (about 1 in every 10^15 sequences), and ribozymal nucleotide synthesis [1, 6, 13].

We are quite convinced now.

876 posted on 04/29/2006 7:27:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Ichneumon; RunningWolf; wallcrawlr; AndrewC; metmom; Conservative Texan Mom

Your link contains the idiot ramblings of an anti-evolutionist masturbating...

Ah... such vivid imagery!
877 posted on 04/29/2006 7:28:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Sam Hill
Your preposterous claim that "constantly professed to be a Catholic/Christian" is a flat out lie.

Let me remind you. You made a claim that Hitler's 12 April 1922 speech was intended to be sarcastic. I have challenged you to identify anything in that speech to indicate Hitler was being sarcastic when he said that his "feeling as a Christian points" him to his "Lord and Savior as a fighter", or indeed elsewhere in that section of the speech. You have not done so, for obvious reasons; he was not being sarcastic, there is nothing that would even suggest he was being sarcastic, and you simply made that up. Instead you initiated an ad hominem attack on me. You are probably well aware I could have quoted many other instances where Hitler proclaimed himself to be Christian. But what is the point? You refused to confront the first except with dishonesty and denial.

You are a raving ideologue who isn't interested in an intellectual discussion, but in shouting down your opponent. Merely mentioning that Hiller was a product of an environment in which religiously-justified Christian antisemitism was the norm, and that his speech in 1922 in Munich would not have been anything particularly out of the norm, something that no one familiar with the history of Germany and Central Europe in the late 19th/early 20th century would deny, caused you to attack my sanity, And then you have the chutzpah to complain when I compared your agenda with that of another guy who's interested in rewriting history.

Strictly for the benefit of the lurkers, Table Talk was edited by Martin Bormann from original transcripts made by two scribes Bormann chose, and while it purports to be a record of Hitler's dinner time meanderings, there is no independent evidence of the veracity of the material. And Bormann was definitely anti-Christian and in particular anti-Catholic. So relying on Bormann's accounts, which dramatically at variance with Hitler's public proclamations, is tendentiousness at its worst. Your entire argument depends on taking the word of a Nazi monster with his own agenda.

I will close this exchange, and consign you to my virtual ignore list, with the remark that of all fanatics I've run into on FR, you are among the most unpleasant.

878 posted on 04/29/2006 7:38:20 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: swmobuffalo
I subscribe to the fact that science has yet to prove that "chance" created the intricacies of the human body, the precise aerodynamics of an eagle's wing or the somewhat clumsy nearly impossible flight of a bumblebee.

INDEED!



NIV Romans 9:20-22
 20.  But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, `Why did you make me like this?'"
 21.  Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?
 
NIV Isaiah 29:15-16
 15.  Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the LORD, who do their work in darkness and think, "Who sees us? Who will know?"
 16.  You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay! Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, "He did not make me"? Can the pot say of the potter, "He knows nothing"?
 

NIV Isaiah 45:9-13
 9.  "Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker, to him who is but a potsherd among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the potter, `What are you making?' Does your work say, `He has no hands'?
 10.  Woe to him who says to his father, `What have you begotten?' or to his mother, `What have you brought to birth?'
 11.  "This is what the LORD says-- the Holy One of Israel, and its Maker: Concerning things to come, do you question me about my children, or give me orders about the work of my hands?
 12.  It is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it. My own hands stretched out the heavens; I marshaled their starry hosts.
 
 
 
NIV Isaiah 64:8-9
   Yet, O LORD, you are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.
 
 
 
NIV Jeremiah 18:2-6
 2.  "Go down to the potter's house, and there I will give you my message."
 3.  So I went down to the potter's house, and I saw him working at the wheel.
 4.  But the pot he was shaping from the clay was marred in his hands; so the potter formed it into another pot, shaping it as seemed best to him.
 5.  Then the word of the LORD came to me:
 6.  "O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter does?" declares the LORD. "Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel.
 

 

879 posted on 04/29/2006 7:42:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: WildHorseCrash
Very impressive.

Yeah, lotsa pitchers and numbers in it!

880 posted on 04/29/2006 7:43:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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