LETS GO AFTER THOSE THAT HIRE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS

3/28/06 | BOB HARAN

[Bob Haran]

By Bob Haran; The recent marches in opposition to Rep. James Sensenbrener’s bill, H.R. 4437, that would make it a felony to be in the country illegally, has raised a question in my mind.

Why don't we make the people responsible for causing people to enter our country illegally, felons? Congress should amend H.R. 4437 and instead of making it a felony to be in the country illegally, make it a felony to illegally hire someone in the country illegally. To make people who are for the most part, law abiding, into felons, is ludicrous. Why does our government refuse to go after the real law breakers, the employers that illegally hire and profit from using undocumented workers?

Let's enforce all our immigration laws.

Bob Haran, Phoenix www.Bob-Haran.info

[Badray]

Jorge Bush's legacy will be a bigger stain than the one that clinton left on Monica's dress.

[Badray]

Are you hiring illegal aliens in your business? You can be honest. It's just between us.

Is that where you get your $10 to $20 per hour figure?

[Always Right]

Are you hiring illegal aliens in your business? You can be honest. It's just between us.

Nope. There aren't many illegals available in Indiana, at least outside of Indianapolis which may have more.

[Badray]

Since you have no personal knowledge, where do you get this $10 to $20 per hour figure?

Everything I hear is that they are working dirt cheap.

[Always Right]

Since you have no personal knowledge, where do you get this $10 to $20 per hour figure? Everything I hear is that they are working dirt cheap.

I know hispanic workers who work with illegals. One who is legal hires illegals crews and works on jobs in the south. They charge the going rate and can easily make over $20 per hour.

[rfreedom4u]

While we're at it let's go after Fox for pushing this invasion on us?

[rfreedom4u]

I believe the government gives money to "migrant workers" who are out of work.

[Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin]

"Why don't we make the people responsible for causing people to enter our country illegally, felons?"

Good idea. Put away the fly paper and the flies won't stick to it...

[p23185]

Congress aren't going to do anything other than make a pronouncement of total AMNESTY. I am done with trying to influence anyone outside of my state.

[Badray]

I'd have to see something more solid than some hearsay. I might believe the boss is charging $20/hour, but I doubt that the illegals themselves are seeing that.

[Mogollon]

Yep. This is the most effective measure possible. Huge fines and a felony charge against employers of illegals.

[Tarheel]

There is a website called www.wehirealiens.com. It is kind of a 'homegrown' type of thing where there is a list, by state , of organizations/companies employing illegals.

I have made a personal commitment to avoid local companies that hire illegals.

[muawiyah]

You may well despise machinery, but it freed African-Americans from centuries of picking cotton by hand.

[muawiyah]

Hardly arbitrary ~ in fact, it's a moral question. You really have to ask yourself why a Mexican national should get a preference on entry into the United States when more highly educated and hard working folks from other countries have to abide by the slightest jot and tittle in the law.

Frankly, I see no reason to prefer Mexicans over others.

[muawiyah]

If the "living wage" is $15 per hour (for a normal life in our society), and business only pays $8 per hour, then who will take the job?

And, more importantly, why should that particular businesslady be allowed to reap the benefits of that pay differential ~ why isn't it given to me to put in my pocket? Certainly I am as deserving of it as she is.

When we examine the equity in the system, it seems to me that business should not expect a government subsidy, nor hot and cold running illegal aliens, in a competitive system. Rather, business should compete fairly, within the law.

[Tarheel]

I am in a metro area of NC. Here illegal roofers are getting $56 per day =$7 per hour. An American/ or legal roofer is getting $15-$19 per hour. The figures are from a friend who is in the gutter and downspout business.

[muawiyah]

A thought ~ (brought this up yesterday but no one bit on it) ~ we probably need a very large "holding tank" for the millions of illegals. There are some adjacent Mexican states that are not as populated as they could be.

A couple of divisions could move in and take them in a day or two.

Once we acquired control of those portions of Mexico, it would certainly be fair to dump all the illegals there.

We probably ought to seize their Gulf oil fields too to help us defray the costs of all of this.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Many are ignoring the problem of forged documents. I was an employer in California until 12 years ago. I was virtually certain I had illegals on my payroll, but they had "green cards".
Perhaps things have changed since then. (Is there now a system for an employer to check for forged credentials?). But I suspect it's gotten harder, not easier.

Unless the IRS tells you that their SS number is wrong there is no cheap or easy way to know.

You can run background checks on all your current employees. At about $200.00 a pop that can get pricey. Even then there is no guarantee as the paperwork may be valid but not theirs.

It is one thing if you are flouting the law and another if you have take reasonable steps and get snookered.

[muawiyah]

There were a good 1,500 in Jackson county alone ~ and most have relocated to the Gulf Coast where they can make more money in reconstruction of New Orleans, etc.

Here's the deal ~ you get little scrawny guys from Souvr'n Mexico getting a job in Indiana ~ a good job too since they're not getting cheated.

Next thing you know they've got enough money to bring in the new wife, and here she comes ~ a beauty queen ~ the kind of girl that guy would never SEE, to say nothing of MEET, or MARRY, if he didn't have the kind of income he has in Indiana.

There's a lot more benefit to the illegal male than always meets the eye, but a trip to the Seymour Wal-Mart, over near the tomatilla counter on Saturday afternoon ought to clarify the situation.

[Porterville]

I have been repeating this over and over... Let's go after the businesses for tax evasion. Once the illegals have no jobs their own families will send them home.

Si Se Puede!!! Stop the hiring of illegals!!! Si Se Puede!!!Si Se Puede!!!